โMay-07-2018 07:22 PM
โMay-13-2018 09:23 AM
valhalla360 wrote:My home solar will pay for itself in five years (next month). Power will seem rather free after that.TomG2 wrote:
I will tell my many friends who are really into solar that they are being silly. They think it is cool to make coffee with free energy. You sure like to label people, don't you? I tried something. It did not work. I am not a silly or foolish person.
Go add up the costs and tell us how "free" that energy is. Nothing wrong with messing about with a hobby that ignores cost but don't fool yourself for a second that it's "free" energy.
Where it becomes foolish is if you think you are saving money with all this "free" energy.
โMay-13-2018 12:11 AM
โMay-12-2018 11:39 PM
TomG2 wrote:
I will tell my many friends who are really into solar that they are being silly. They think it is cool to make coffee with free energy. You sure like to label people, don't you? I tried something. It did not work. I am not a silly or foolish person.
โMay-11-2018 10:13 AM
time2roll wrote:
Still thinking that the furnace is burning propane while that morning coffee brews on electric. So get 2 to 4 large batteries to run the space heater properly and then figure out a way to charge and maintain those batteries. Then let us know if it is worth it.
For camping in a camper shell I kinda equate that to tent camping. When the sun rises you just get up and start your day. No reason to cozy around in a heated tent.
Sorry if I am a bit off with my perception.
โMay-11-2018 09:37 AM
โMay-11-2018 09:26 AM
valhalla360 wrote:
Actually, it is a silly and expensive way to make coffee. Yes, it can be done but then again we were talking about heating a living space not a quick 10minute run of the coffee maker.
โMay-11-2018 07:12 AM
TomG2 wrote:valhalla360 wrote:
...snip...... it is a poor way to generate heat.
No argument there. Who said that it was a good way? Occasionally, for convenience sake, small quantities of heat CAN be produced from battery power. Not in my case, which I readily admit. Something that is very rare on these forums.
By the way, there are lots of people making coffee this morning using their battery banks and electric coffee pots. Foolish? Your call.
โMay-11-2018 05:14 AM
โMay-11-2018 04:19 AM
valhalla360 wrote:
...snip...... it is a poor way to generate heat.
โMay-11-2018 01:15 AM
TomG2 wrote:valhalla360 wrote:
Truckers aren't using resistance heat from lead-acid batteries.
What kind of batteries do they have? I am not in the business of referring to people as fools for trying something different. Are people fools when they switch their 12/120 volt refrigerators over to battery for a short time when parked? Inefficient? Yes. Foolish?
โMay-10-2018 06:21 AM
โMay-10-2018 05:24 AM
valhalla360 wrote:
Truckers aren't using resistance heat from lead-acid batteries.
โMay-10-2018 01:56 AM
TomG2 wrote:time2roll wrote:
Resistance heat from a lead-acid battery is a fools errand.
You need propane.
Are you calling America's truck drivers fools? Many use resistance heating in one form or another to heat everything from coffee to truck seats. I have a propane heater for cold weather. This test was to see if I could get a little heat for a short amount of time from my battery. Too much load and too little battery was what I discovered.
โMay-10-2018 01:24 AM
pianotuna wrote:
I did not say the battery should be inside the "cap". In fact, I would never recommend that unless the jar were in a sealed box vented to the great outdoors.