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Selecting a high wattage psw inverter

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Hi,

I'm considering what to buy next to replace the existing inverter which failed yesterday. I need to have 2500 watts but 3000 would be better and it needs must be pure sine wave.

I'm looking for quality names. The three I am aware of are:

Magnum
Outback
Victron

Can anyone add to this list?
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.
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pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Found another inverter that appears to be a quality unit.

Power Master.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Hi BFL13,

Thanks.

Here is a tear down video about motomaster 3000 MSW

BFL13 wrote:
PT, if it fits your "work around" plans at all, this is an excellent 3000w MSW inverter. I have had one for a year now and it does everything. A camping neighbour has had his for three years now and also no problems. Not PSW but who cares?

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-eliminator-mobile-power-inverter-3000w-0111846p.html#sr...
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

BFL13
Explorer II
Explorer II
pianotuna wrote:
Hi,

I'm considering what to buy next to replace the existing inverter which failed yesterday. I need to have 2500 watts but 3000 would be better and it needs must be pure sine wave.

I'm looking for quality names. The three I am aware of are:

Magnum
Outback
Victron

Can anyone add to this list?


PT, if it fits your "work around" plans at all, this is an excellent 3000w MSW inverter. I have had one for a year now and it does everything. A camping neighbour has had his for three years now and also no problems. Not PSW but who cares?

It is on sale at Can Tire from 8-11 Sep this week for $180 ๐Ÿ™‚ AFAIK it is a Xantrex.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-eliminator-mobile-power-inverter-3000w-0111846p.html#sr...
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MrWizard
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i just nuked some bacon and melted some butter on some Hawaiian bread
two different operations
bacon 2 strips 30 seconds, avg 1445w 114amps
bread 15 seconds
peak power 'observed' was 1556w
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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JiminDenver
Explorer II
Explorer II
I sure like my Tripp-lite inverter. It may not be a PSW but I can't tell it with anything I use it with like my old MSW inverter. No problems starting the little A/C or a microwave pulling 1375w.
2011 GulfStream Amerilite 25BH
2003 Ford Expedition with 435w tilting portable/ TS-MPPT-45
750w solar , TS-MPPT-60 on the trailer
675 Ah bank, Trip-lite 1250fc inverter
Sportsman 2200w inverter generator

2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
hbski wrote:
24v still affords you a work around, it just adds another 20 minutes to rewire the battery bank in a similar situation.
I'm running 48v, but I still carry my old 12 and 24v inverters. A bit of rewiring and I'm bib. I'd have to reconnect the solar controller to sense voltage and disonnect my 48v charger.

I wouldn't be doing any heavy-duty stuff like running air, or even MW for too long on 12v. I don't carry thumb-sized wire anymore.
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hbski
Explorer
Explorer
pianotuna wrote:
Hi Smk,

Yes, I've thought about 24 and 48 volts.

If I do that I loose any redundancy. Because I stayed with 12 volt when I had a problem, I had a work around in 20 seconds. If I had gone to 24 volt I would have been up the creek without a paddle.

If I were starting over from scratch I'd lean towards 48.

But recent events seem to indicate I should stay with 12 volts.

smkettner wrote:
Have you considered going 24 volts for this service? IMO over 2000 watts is really pushing 12v system a bit hard.


24v still affords you a work around, it just adds another 20 minutes to rewire the battery bank in a similar situation.
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RoyB
Explorer II
Explorer II
Tripp Lite in the working industry was a good known working source but in the RV world I really have not heard of many if any using them... Of course most of my working years was involved with 19-inch rack mounted shore base systems...

The line I hear about the most in the RV world is the MAGNUM line... I did read your recent posts of a couple of short comings with Magnums.

Building homes for Solar Power the 24-48VDC items really become the way to go...

I like the DECK MOUNT idea big time...

Since I am getting up in years now I really want to develop a 3KW Power Bank just outside my Operations room here in my house to run all of my Radio and Computer toys...

Having 400-500Ahs of Battery capacity on my OFF-ROAD POPUP trailer should be all I need for the near future of RV off-road outings.. Really have not done much of getting OFF-ROAD the past two years but things are starting to look up. Time to get back out there again and enjoy some more waking up on a creekside morning somewhere while I still can...

I know - This is not much offered help for your questions haha...

Roy Ken
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MEXICOWANDERER
Explorer
Explorer
The vast majority of ex-Trace engineers migrated and formed Outback. If I had the money it would be applied there. The 1st order of the day is contact their Tech and get an opinion about inverter to inverter coupling.

time2roll
Nomad
Nomad
With no monster inverter you do not need much 12v. PD, solar and a single battery would get you through. I assume you would still have a 12v support system. You are back on dry land, no paddle sure but no creek either.

If you add a second solar array it could be at the higher voltage.

Just some random ideas as you start the next journey ๐Ÿ˜‰

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Hi MrWizard,

Yes it does interest me. Ty.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Hi Smk,

Yes, I've thought about 24 and 48 volts.

If I do that I loose any redundancy. Because I stayed with 12 volt when I had a problem, I had a work around in 20 seconds. If I had gone to 24 volt I would have been up the creek without a paddle.

If I were starting over from scratch I'd lean towards 48.

But recent events seem to indicate I should stay with 12 volts.

smkettner wrote:
Have you considered going 24 volts for this service? IMO over 2000 watts is really pushing 12v system a bit hard.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Hi dons2346,

I have not given up, or Magnum would not be on the list. I'm just curious as to what options may be.

I also purchased from Imarine.

dons2346 wrote:
Don, I think you are giving up on the Magnum to fast. I think they have the best support in the industry plus they speak English. Catastrophic failures can happen with anything so good factory assistance is important

I really like my 3000 hybrid. The cheapest place to buy any converter is from http://www.imarineusa.com/ The cost of the hybrid 3000 is a little under $1700
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

MrWizard
Moderator
Moderator
Don maybe this will interest you

3000w 12vdc 35/140 amps charge





12V DC or 120V AC input; 120V AC output (hardwired)
3000 watts continuous, 4500 watts OverPowerโ„ข and 6000 watts DoubleBoostโ„ข inverter output
3 stage, 35/140 amp selectable wet/dry cell battery charger
Built-in Isobarยฎ premium AC surge protection and Auto Transfer Switching option for battery backup / UPS operation
Tested to power inverter standards UL458 (USA) and CSA (Canada)
High reliability large-transformer design with protected DC and AC wiring terminals



I have no connections with tripp lite
just a happy customer with a PVR1250
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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