Xantrex Prosine 2.0 Inverter/charger died! :(

[Canadian_Rainbi]

The Subject pretty much says it all.

No throughput, immediately trips shorepower breaker, doesn't trip generator breaker, but does not pass the AC through to the coach.

Inverter function seems to work fine.

Returned from Xantrex and Not repairable, no parts available. The 12 Volt version is no longer made.

I see a few offered on Amazon.com and ebay.

I can find no other 2 KW pure sinewave inverters that will fit the space. The storage forward of the battery compartment (to the right in the photo) in in a slide out which would make wiring difficult if not hazardous.

Thoughts?

[MrWizard]

DavesRVs wrote:

KJINTF wrote:
Hi Rainbird

I agree those Prosine2.0 units when working are nice units
Got one in pieces here on the shop bench with the dreaded error code 0258...
Right now I believe there are defective caps seeing that they used the cheapest ones they could source at the time in the early 2000's.

Hi there..
I can seem to find the Prosine numeric codes online anywhere. I have a Prosine 2.0 with "Dreaded Error Code 0258"...
How do I fix that? (I am an electrical Engineer, so I know just enough to be dangerous 🙂

Thanks

This topic is 4 Years old

i think it would have been a better idea to start a new one

Prosine is very bad about NOT doing repairs
if its in warranty they replace it,
if its out of warranty, tough luck, unless you find a guy that specializes in them
NO published info from them

the only thing i can recommend is the use of a 'component' wave form tracer/comparator, they look like an oscilloscope but are not
a bad FET , CHIP, diode etc.. will show a different waveform from a know good part of the same thing

[wa8yxm]

There is a man at Quartsite who fixes 'em. Next time I get there (Was hoping this year but not looking good since the slide out motor/transmission is shot) I will hand him mine....

For the time I went with a FREEDOM 2000 XC Less than 1,000 Remote included and I did the install myself. Have the following observations

Where as the Prosine had toggle switches that disabled the inverter. or charger this one does not. However there is a way (I use a different charger so I disabled it) and I can turn it on and off via the remote.. just more hoops.

Second the connections were..Much more of a pain. the "Quick connectors" they provide did not like my older 10ga wires. I had to make them connect.

After that I got 'er hooked up but unlike the Prosine the ON/OFF is quite different. A single button and NO indication if the inverter is in 'Standby' or "off" modes.

Last time I moved (This was not a problem) I had a different 12 volt issue that sucked battery down for just an instant. Low enough my LED lights flicked.. The inverter SHUT OFF. I had to re-activate it when next I noticed.

But otherwie it is working well

I miss some of the Prosine's features though.

[DavesRVs]

KJINTF wrote:
Hi Rainbird

I agree those Prosine2.0 units when working are nice units
Got one in pieces here on the shop bench with the dreaded error code 0258...
Right now I believe there are defective caps seeing that they used the cheapest ones they could source at the time in the early 2000's.

Hi there..
I can seem to find the Prosine numeric codes online anywhere. I have a Prosine 2.0 with "Dreaded Error Code 0258"...
How do I fix that? (I am an electrical Engineer, so I know just enough to be dangerous 🙂

Thanks
Dave Meekhof

[Canadian_Rainbi]

3 tons wrote:
"The 12 Volt version is no longer made"....Its still available at Amazon, and Xantrex still shows it at their website...Please Clarify. Thanks

The local dealer told me they no longer made the 12V units. I only saw the 24 volt ones on the site I looked at the other day. Now you made me check again and battery voltage isn't mentioned. :h

At any rate, I have one coming. I hope.

[3_tons]

"The 12 Volt version is no longer made"....Its still available at Amazon, and Xantrex still shows it at their website...Please Clarify. Thanks

[2oldman]

Interesting tidbit about the Prosine 2.0

I had the hardwire version on a whole-house installation. When trying to start the air con from generators (2 honda), they would overload, and the Pro would take over and start the air, the gens would catch up and run the air, and the Pro would drop out.

With the Pro gone, and a Samlex in the same configuration, the generators have no problem starting and running the air. But the Sam won't start the air.

[jrnymn7]

C/20 of 484 is 24.2...

C/5 of 484 is 96.8 🙂

[Canadian_Rainbi]

Thanks all for their input. To clarify;

The unit was sent to and returned from Xantrex, "parts not available".
No visible damage inside (I looked first)
Inverter ran the microwave just fine.
Just bought a re-manufactured on ebay for $900.00
I now have a very nice inverter for the ham shack beer fridge and 150 AH of batteries to power it.

[Canadian_Rainbi]

jrnymn7 wrote:
The OP has 1920 Ah Capacity?

No, 484AH (2X242) C20 of 484 is 96.8

[KJINTF]

msiminoff

I wish it was that simple much of the time

[MEXICOWANDERER]

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The DeOxit performance is unique in this world. It's in a class by itself, other "similar" products are garbage in comparison.

Use it on any connection that you can see signal strength increases such as "bars". The stuff is amazing.

[msiminoff]

I also have a ProSine 2.0 and love it… but it has given me some problems in the past. The issue I had turned out to be that one of the circuit boards was disconnecting from it's edge connectors. I machined-up a few c-clips from ABS to hold the connectors together and it has been trouble free ever since. It's worth taking a look to see if you are having a similar problem.




If I ever need to replace the ProSine, I'll go with the Magnum Hybrid (MSH3012M)… It's worth taking a look to see if one of these will fit in the spot where your ProSine is mounted.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
-Mark

[jrnymn7]

The OP has 1920 Ah Capacity?

[KJINTF]

Hi Rainbird

I agree those Prosine2.0 units when working are nice units
Got one in pieces here on the shop bench with the dreaded error code 0258
Right now I believe there are defective caps seeing that they used the cheapest ones they could source at the time in the early 2000's.

Your issue is different - Are there any error codes? If so what?
As I understand it the inverter function works
So with no shore power and with battery power attached you have 120Vac under a heavy load. If so that's a good sign. When shore power is attached the shore power breaker pops... Transfer relay or charger are suspect.

I would take it out of the rig have to remove the many small screws holding it together. At the AC end there is a large electrical box just under that and well hidden is the "O" so small transfer relay look around that area for burned / discolored parts. My guess without seeing the unit is the Battery charger function died and tried to ingest a huge amount of current from the shore power - but this is ONLY a guess.

Happy to take a look at it for you

PS _ BLF writes
"I wonder if the charger portion could be isolated inside so you could feed it 120v directly where now it can't get enabled with no 120v via the internal transfer switch or however that works. Then all you would have to do is re-arrange your 120"


Sure would be nice .............. However they (charger, inverter, micro controller, etc functions) are "O" so integrated - no way to within reason segregate the functions