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2013 Starcraft AR One 16 bh

tessi81
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I am newbie and we are looking at purchasing our first travel trailer. Looking at a 2013 Starcraft AR One 16 bh - anyone experience with these trailers?

We are comparing against some 18/19ft hybrid trailers which would give more room but therefore have to deal with the canvas.

Any recommendations?
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bedpan
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I was going through a similiar decision just a month or so ago. The trailer is being bought for a couple trips then sold, or thats the current plan anyways. We might fall in love.

Family consists of 2 adults, 2 kids (7-9) and Chocolate lab. Trip one is in August. Taking a Month off and driving from Toronto area to Revelstoke in BC. It will be crowded in the trailer. but as we are driving every day the reduced setup of a non hybrid won me over. We can pull over anytime and have a nap without a lot of effort.

We ended up buying a 2015 Starcraft 18BH. A few extra feet over the 16BH without much weight. Water is still tight but we are hoping to spend every other night or so with hookups.

Good Luck.

Mike

Sunbird
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Compare the weight of hybrids vs regular travel trailers. The big openings for the beds require more structure that adds weight. Also canvas is not a good choice in bear country.

pira114
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Regarding the "canvas." It's not really canvas anymore. And much better at resisting rot. Still wouldn't put away wet without planning to air out soonish.

I used to own a pop up. Used it in the winter. One thing we did was use tarps to cover the tent ends if it snowed or rained. This also helps with heat retention, but adds to condensation. So a decent fan is a must.

It's more work, and I wonder if some parks would scoff at it. We always used it boondocking in Fed Forests, so wasn't a problem for us.

I had the tarp set up down to a science and it took 5 min to set up. But it's another chore and doesn't look pretty. Does save time and effort when packing up. And possibly saves the tent material and helps it last longer.

It's a decision of convenience. Ask yourself how much time you plan to spend inside the trailer? We found that we only spend a couple hours a day in it. Ours is larger, so a rainy day isn't much of a concern, but it's all part of camping.

No matter how cramped you feel, picture yourself being crammed into a tent to get out of the weather and you'll feel better about the small trailer!

gheicher
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A couple of things to consider with the AR-ONE 16BH or 15RB. They both have small holding tanks. If you are camping without full hookups you need to use the bath facilities sparingly - black water 9 gal & gray water 15 gal. So if you are going to shower it better be the kind they do in submarines. I always try for full hookups but am going to invest in a "blue tote" just in case. One nice feature is the garden hose attachment for the gray water. You can just run a garden hose to the sewer instead of the 4" stinky slinky - The 9 gal black water will last a long time especially if you use the toilet for just #1 like we do.

The other downside to these trailers is the 13" tires. The tires are very near the weight limit of the trailer so I upgraded to 14" wheels & tires to add a little more safety factor and the larger diameter tires will turn slower at highway speed thus keeping the bearings a bit cooler also. If buying new I would try to negotiate with the dealer on including the 14 inch wheels & tires.

Other than the above, I am pretty happy with the unit but have not used it in real hot weather to see how the window style AC keeps up.

randallb
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We (2) are looking for a motel room on wheels to use on our annual trip to ND & MN. We looked at the 15RB today and it appears to have jumped to the top of the list. Monday we head to SC to look at the Lil Snoozy and will be looking at a CampLIte 13QBB on the way down. I think we will go with the 15RB because it is good bang for the buck and since it is going to see little annual use the price is a major driver. There are much better built trailers in this size range but they start running in to the high teens and low 20s. It is definitely entry level but it is nicely equipped.
Randy

gheicher
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I chose a 15RB hybrid over the 16BH. Usually there is only two of us using the trailer but occasionally there are a couple more and the 15RB will sleep 5 which includes the sofa. For us the tip-out sometimes provides extra sleeping area, or sometimes a large storage area while camping, or sometimes we just leave it closed when just staying overnight. The 15RB has a lot more living area than the 16BH, which when we need to spend more time indoors, that's a great benefit.

As far as folding up wet fabric on the tip-out, its certainly not any worse than rolling up a wet awning, and nothing like a pop-up camper.

Some of my other small campers I have owned can be seen at My Campers.

scbwr
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If you can't store your trailer on your property or keep it there for at least 24 hours, avoid a hybrid unless it is one that has a hard sided slide out bunk. We had popup campers, and quite often, they had to be opened up and allowed to dry after returning home.

The question I would ask is what is your towing weight limit? If you can answer that, you may get suggestions on lighter travel trailers that have more space or a better layout than the Starcraft. That being said, Starcraft makes a very decent trailer, but look at others by Jayco and other reputable companies.
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tessi81
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Thanks for your reply. You are making a good point with having to dry the canvas upon return if it got wet and had to be closed wet
. This might pose a problem since we live in the city and will have to store the trailer a little further away. So might be hassle to open it up and dry it out.

DutchmenSport
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Doing an Internet search and looking at photos and the floor plan for the 2013 Starcraft, I think it would be a tough call which way to go.

The Starcraft is definately more limited in overall space. The dinette folds down to a bed, and looks like it's the master bed. That means, making the bed and then setting up the table every time you use it. Not to mention ... what happens if it rains?

The bunks are tucked back, making the beds will be difficult. Quarters are tight, bathroom is small and if you have a family of 4, it will get cramped very fast. It's just a smaller trailer... it's not the trailer's fault you know.

A hybrid will have basically the same foot print, tow about the same, but give you the additional space with the beds out of the way. You won't have to set up a dinette to a bed and back again every time, unless you need it for additional sleeping space.

The down side for the hybrid: if you need a quick sleep while on the road, you have to extend the ends. And when hitched to your tow vehicle, I don't think that is possible for the front bed. There's just not enough room. Also, you are absolutely correct ... wet canvas is a real pain in the neck. If wet, you will be folding the beds up and the wet canvas is now inside your camper, dripping somewhere?

On the plus side, you have more space once set up.

After owning a pop-up camper for several years and dealing with wet canvas, closing up in the rain, and then setting up again back home to dry everything out, is just something I never want to do again.

If you camp in cold weather (I did not say snow... just cold)... like early Spring or late Fall, the canvas ends will not retain heat very well. Not to mention dew drops that form on the top (inside), or if you touch the side with your foot, you get a rain shower.

In my opinion, there's lots of "negatives" for have a tent end. The real positive however, it does make you feel closer to nature. (and if you live in bear country, I think you really don't want cloth ends).

About the Starcraft (hard sided camper). Although smaller, you will never have to deal with anything "wet" (unless it's a wet swim suit or towels left in the rain.) You can close up, keep warm, and keep dry.

If I had to choose, and those were my only 2 options, after owning 1 pop-up and 3 different trailers, I'd pick the Starcraft and not the hybrid. Although smaller, and the master bed has to be assembled every night, functionally, it's much easier to handle.

I suggest if you get the Starcraft to take along a small tent you can set up outside to put "junk" in. Nice thing about a tent, you can roll it up wet and when you get home, simply toss it over a cloths line. When we had our pop-up, we used original tent all the time for extra storage (and for a "potty" room, as we carried a port-a-potty with us all the time too).