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2020 PSD owner compares it to his 2019 PSD towing 18K

ShinerBock
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Explorer
This just came across my recommended videos on YouTube after watching Fish's 2020 7.3L video. He gives a pretty honest (and long) comparison for this who have a 2017-2019 and are thinking about switching. He also has a Banks iDash so you can see some of the temps although I believe the pyro-meter for the EGT's on the PSD is after turbo just like the CTD is which is about 300-400F cooler than pre-turbo numbers where most aftermarket pyro's are.

2020 FORD SUPERDUTY 10 SPEED TOWING 18,000lbs!
2014 Ram 2500 6.7L CTD
2016 BMW 2.0L diesel (work and back car)
2023 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 3.0L Ecodiesel

Highland Ridge Silverstar 378RBS
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Bionic_Man
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
There is a reason when asked about the AISIN the West Coast Head Warranty Rep from Chrysler said โ€œThey donโ€™t breakโ€. Low fluid temps help? I think they do help.


Lol. Another authoritative source. Someone who works for the company touting the abilities of the product they represent. Well done.

Iโ€™d be willing to bet if you spoke with someone from Ford/GM/BMW or any other manufacturer they would say the same.


Yep you know who this person is donโ€™t ya. You know where he was when he made the comment donโ€™t ya. Anything else you want to criticize? Since his comment to our group his comments have proven to be true.


Sorry, I don't. Just going by what you typed. Is this person related to the lady that gave you the inside scoop on your visit to the Cummins factory?
2012 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW CC 4x4 Max Tow, Cummins HO, 60 gallon RDS aux fuel tank, Reese 18k Elite hitch
2003 Dodge Ram 3500 QC SB 4x4 Cummins HO NV5600 with Smarty JR, Jacobs EB (sold)
2002 Gulf Stream Sea Hawk 29FRB with Honda EV6010

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

FISH ???


Crickets... What?


I asked for your comments on the guys reported fuel economy since you are all about the new 10 speed Fords fuel economy.


Got it... I'm letting the test results speak for themselves.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
One thing I am impressed with is the power at lower rpmโ€™s.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

FISH ???


Crickets... What?


I asked for your comments on the guys reported fuel economy since you are all about the new 10 speed Fords fuel economy.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
Bionic Man wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
There is a reason when asked about the AISIN the West Coast Head Warranty Rep from Chrysler said โ€œThey donโ€™t breakโ€. Low fluid temps help? I think they do help.


Lol. Another authoritative source. Someone who works for the company touting the abilities of the product they represent. Well done.

Iโ€™d be willing to bet if you spoke with someone from Ford/GM/BMW or any other manufacturer they would say the same.


Yep you know who this person is donโ€™t ya. You know where he was when he made the comment donโ€™t ya. Anything else you want to criticize? Since his comment to our group his comments have proven to be true.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

larry_barnhart
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Explorer
mich800 wrote:
larry barnhart wrote:
It does look like the ford trannies run hotter than my chev or a Ram.

chevman


It has already been discussed. The trans is designed to operate at a higher temp.



some times the design doesn't make it the best or why all the different ideas from the rv .net experts.

chevman
chevman
2019 rockwood 34 ft fifth wheel sold
2005 3500 2wd duramax CC dually
prodigy



KSH 55 inbed fuel tank

scanguage II
TD-EOC
Induction Overhaul Kit
TST tire monitors
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FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

FISH ???


Crickets... What?


He is looking for clarification -

quote -

Interesting.

What was his speed compared to the Cummins on the long grade? I still wonder about trans temps, mine would be running 167 at 34k combined same day.

Does that trailer really weigh 10k? Truck should be around 8k. 18k combined???

Sounds like it pulls good even at lower rpm's. I guess people need to decide how important it is to slow the load.

FISH what say you about the mpg???
Me-Her-the kids
2020 Ford F350 SD 6.7
2020 Redwood 3991RD Garnet

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

FISH ???


Crickets... What?
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Bionic_Man
Explorer
Explorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
There is a reason when asked about the AISIN the West Coast Head Warranty Rep from Chrysler said โ€œThey donโ€™t breakโ€. Low fluid temps help? I think they do help.


Lol. Another authoritative source. Someone who works for the company touting the abilities of the product they represent. Well done.

Iโ€™d be willing to bet if you spoke with someone from Ford/GM/BMW or any other manufacturer they would say the same.
2012 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW CC 4x4 Max Tow, Cummins HO, 60 gallon RDS aux fuel tank, Reese 18k Elite hitch
2003 Dodge Ram 3500 QC SB 4x4 Cummins HO NV5600 with Smarty JR, Jacobs EB (sold)
2002 Gulf Stream Sea Hawk 29FRB with Honda EV6010

Cummins12V98
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Explorer III
There is a reason when asked about the AISIN the West Coast Head Warranty Rep from Chrysler said โ€œThey donโ€™t breakโ€. Low fluid temps help? I think they do help.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

mich800
Explorer
Explorer
larry barnhart wrote:
It does look like the ford trannies run hotter than my chev or a Ram.

chevman


It has already been discussed. The trans is designed to operate at a higher temp.

Bionic_Man
Explorer
Explorer
I'm not sure why there is the insistence that running a low tranny temp is a significant advantage.

If you are running within the normal operating range that is all that matters.

Normal operating temps on most of the cars I rent seem to be 200* or more.
2012 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW CC 4x4 Max Tow, Cummins HO, 60 gallon RDS aux fuel tank, Reese 18k Elite hitch
2003 Dodge Ram 3500 QC SB 4x4 Cummins HO NV5600 with Smarty JR, Jacobs EB (sold)
2002 Gulf Stream Sea Hawk 29FRB with Honda EV6010

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

FISH ???
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

larry_barnhart
Explorer
Explorer
It does look like the ford trannies run hotter than my chev or a Ram.

chevman
chevman
2019 rockwood 34 ft fifth wheel sold
2005 3500 2wd duramax CC dually
prodigy



KSH 55 inbed fuel tank

scanguage II
TD-EOC
Induction Overhaul Kit
TST tire monitors
FMCA # F479110

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
Interesting.

What was his speed compared to the Cummins on the long grade? I still wonder about trans temps, mine would be running 167 at 34k combined same day.

Does that trailer really weigh 10k? Truck should be around 8k. 18k combined???

Sounds like it pulls good even at lower rpm's. I guess people need to decide how important it is to slow the load.

FISH what say you about the mpg???
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD