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2020 PSD owner compares it to his 2019 PSD towing 18K

ShinerBock
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This just came across my recommended videos on YouTube after watching Fish's 2020 7.3L video. He gives a pretty honest (and long) comparison for this who have a 2017-2019 and are thinking about switching. He also has a Banks iDash so you can see some of the temps although I believe the pyro-meter for the EGT's on the PSD is after turbo just like the CTD is which is about 300-400F cooler than pre-turbo numbers where most aftermarket pyro's are.

2020 FORD SUPERDUTY 10 SPEED TOWING 18,000lbs!
2014 Ram 2500 6.7L CTD
2016 BMW 2.0L diesel (work and back car)
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Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
FISH I pictured you as a Manly Man that did his own maintenance???

"The Aisin would have been to the shop for service 3 times during that period."
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Cummins12V98
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4x4ord wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
Ford requires the transmission fluid be changed every 150,000 miles. How often is the fluid to be changed in the Aisin?


30k fluid then 60k filter and fluid. I’m thinking this is to do with the use these AISIN’s see in Medium Duty applications.

I will say there is no way in HE11 I wold go 150k towing what I do with a new Ford.


You gotta get a Ford. There is no way I'll keep my truck long enough to require the tranny fluid to be changed. I change the engine oil every 25k km and add fuel and windshield washer fluid as needed. That has been it for maintenance other than tires.


If I were in the market for a Gasser It could be a Ford, Diesel......NO!!!
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
4x4ord wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
Ford requires the transmission fluid be changed every 150,000 miles. How often is the fluid to be changed in the Aisin?


30k fluid then 60k filter and fluid. I’m thinking this is to do with the use these AISIN’s see in Medium Duty applications.

I will say there is no way in HE11 I wold go 150k towing what I do with a new Ford.


You gotta get a Ford. There is no way I'll keep my truck long enough to require the tranny fluid to be changed. I change the engine oil every 25k km and add fuel and windshield washer fluid as needed. That has been it for maintenance other than tires.


I changed my transmission fluid around 100k miles. The Aisin would have been to the shop for service 3 times during that period. My 05 Super Duty required transmission service every 30k miles.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

4x4ord
Explorer III
Explorer III
Cummins12V98 wrote:
4x4ord wrote:
Ford requires the transmission fluid be changed every 150,000 miles. How often is the fluid to be changed in the Aisin?


30k fluid then 60k filter and fluid. I’m thinking this is to do with the use these AISIN’s see in Medium Duty applications.

I will say there is no way in HE11 I wold go 150k towing what I do with a new Ford.


You gotta get a Ford. There is no way I'll keep my truck long enough to require the tranny fluid to be changed. I change the engine oil every 25k km and add fuel and windshield washer fluid as needed. That has been it for maintenance other than tires.
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FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
ShinerBock wrote:
In regards to the exhaust brake, I am not surprised that he says that the Cummins exhaust brake is better than even his new 2020 though. It appears that he is not the only one to think that.


I was watching his videos a while back when he was evaluating a Ram HD truck but ultimately he felt the new Ford was overall a better performing truck like others have reported.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

FishOnOne
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Nomad
ShinerBock wrote:
IdaD wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
Certainly a nice truck, but none of those "big" hills he was climbing looked all that big to me. There are several mountain passes here in BC that would have that truck working much harder! :B


You can't tell the magnitude of a hill from a video.


A Texan wouldn't be my first choice for an opinion on the topic.



ROFL!!! Ha ha ha. So true. Many here think the hill country is steep.


I never said the hill country is steep nor do I recall anyone here saying that. I've seen several videos where someone is pulling 7-8% grade and from the video the road literally looks flat and even the driver emphasis that you can't tell how steep the road is via the video.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
4x4ord wrote:
Ford requires the transmission fluid be changed every 150,000 miles. How often is the fluid to be changed in the Aisin?


30k fluid then 60k filter and fluid. I’m thinking this is to do with the use these AISIN’s see in Medium Duty applications.

I will say there is no way in HE11 I wold go 150k towing what I do with a new Ford.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

ShinerBock
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Explorer
IdaD wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
Certainly a nice truck, but none of those "big" hills he was climbing looked all that big to me. There are several mountain passes here in BC that would have that truck working much harder! :B


You can't tell the magnitude of a hill from a video.


A Texan wouldn't be my first choice for an opinion on the topic.



ROFL!!! Ha ha ha. So true. Many here think the hill country is steep.
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Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Explorer III
IdaD wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
Certainly a nice truck, but none of those "big" hills he was climbing looked all that big to me. There are several mountain passes here in BC that would have that truck working much harder! :B


You can't tell the magnitude of a hill from a video.


A Texan wouldn't be my first choice for an opinion on the topic.


Dang, that even hurt me!
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37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

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2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

IdaD
Explorer
Explorer
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
Certainly a nice truck, but none of those "big" hills he was climbing looked all that big to me. There are several mountain passes here in BC that would have that truck working much harder! :B


You can't tell the magnitude of a hill from a video.


A Texan wouldn't be my first choice for an opinion on the topic.
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ShinerBock
Explorer
Explorer
In regards to the exhaust brake, I am not surprised that he says that the Cummins exhaust brake is better than even his new 2020 though. It appears that he is not the only one to think that.
2014 Ram 2500 6.7L CTD
2016 BMW 2.0L diesel (work and back car)
2023 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 3.0L Ecodiesel

Highland Ridge Silverstar 378RBS

4x4ord
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Ford requires the transmission fluid be changed every 150,000 miles. How often is the fluid to be changed in the Aisin?
2023 F350 SRW Platinum short box 4x4.
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ShinerBock
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According to the signs, this is the route he took and turned back around. Not sure if anyone has a way to find the grade on the stretch of highway.

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FishOnOne
Nomad
Nomad
blofgren wrote:
Certainly a nice truck, but none of those "big" hills he was climbing looked all that big to me. There are several mountain passes here in BC that would have that truck working much harder! :B


You can't tell the magnitude of a hill from a video.
'12 Ford Super Duty FX4 ELD CC 6.7 PSD 400HP 800ft/lbs "270k Miles"
'16 Sprinter 319MKS "Wide Body"

blofgren
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Certainly a nice truck, but none of those "big" hills he was climbing looked all that big to me. There are several mountain passes here in BC that would have that truck working much harder! :B
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