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Attention Grand Design Owners...

ajmcd64
Explorer
Explorer
Hello all,

Not new here but in hibernation for a while...
We are about to pull the trigger on a Grand Design 2670MK. Looking for feedback from Grand Design owners in general, and owners of the 2670MK regarding design, drawbacks, etc.

Thanks in advance!
2019 F150 XLT SCrew 3.5 ECO, Max Tow, HDPP, 3.73
2003 Keystone Springdale 269RLLS (Sold)
2020 Grand Design 2670MK (Taking delivery in March!)
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CaLBaR
Explorer
Explorer
ajmcd64 wrote:
Thank you all.

I just bought a 2019 F 150 XLT 3.5 ecoboost, super crew with max tow and HDPP. GVWR is 7850 with available cargo of 2507. GCWR of 16,100. Just me and the wife with the occasional grandkids coming along. Basing everthing off max weight (GD 8500# GVWR and F150 7850 GVWR) I should be find pulling with weight to spare. GCWR is ~16,300#

Planning on 13% TW which including wd is 1205#. That leaves 1300# for me, wife and cargo. Am I missing anything?

I guess I need to update my signature. :S


Sounds like a good combo to me. I towed my 297RSTS with Tundra for 6000 miles without any issues. Towed very well. Next trailer will likely be a 5th wheel so that is the only reason I upgraded to a 3500 RAM.
2018 Grand Design Reflection 297RSTS
2019 RAM 3500 SRW Big Horn 4x4, 6.7 Cummins/Aisin
2007 Rockwood 8298 SS (Traded in 2018)
2009 Toyota Tundra 4x4 Crew Max 5.7L (Traded in 2019)
HP Dual Cam Sway Control
Prodigy Brake Controller

ajmcd64
Explorer
Explorer
Thank you all.

I just bought a 2019 F 150 XLT 3.5 ecoboost, super crew with max tow and HDPP. GVWR is 7850 with available cargo of 2507. GCWR of 16,100. Just me and the wife with the occasional grandkids coming along. Basing everthing off max weight (GD 8500# GVWR and F150 7850 GVWR) I should be find pulling with weight to spare. GCWR is ~16,300#

Planning on 13% TW which including wd is 1205#. That leaves 1300# for me, wife and cargo. Am I missing anything?

I guess I need to update my signature. :S
2019 F150 XLT SCrew 3.5 ECO, Max Tow, HDPP, 3.73
2003 Keystone Springdale 269RLLS (Sold)
2020 Grand Design 2670MK (Taking delivery in March!)

goducks10
Explorer
Explorer
The issue with the 2670MK is a lot of the heavy stuff is in the rear. Couple that with axles that're to far forward and you get the horizontal teeter totter effect. Reading on the GD forum when the 2670MK came out guys were having trouble with 1/2 tons for 2 reasons. The TW tends to get heavy, pushing the limits of some 1/2 ton receivers and they're prone to sway. Some were getting Hensley Arrows and others were getting 3/4 tons.

Huntindog
Explorer
Explorer
afidel wrote:
mbopp wrote:
We have a 2017 Imagine 2650, very happy with it. There's a GD forum and a few Facebook groups dedicated to GD's.
Hope you have a 3/4-ton to pull it.......


At 600 pounds dry tongue and 32 feet it would seem to be within what a well equipped half ton can reasonably handle with a couple in the truck. Why do you think he needs a 3/4?
Dry= 6785 TW 642.
Those are advertised numbers, so it will likely be more.
GVWR= 8495. With the large tanks it has, it could easily be over 1,000 lbs of liquid waste alone! Unless it will always be a campground queen, that scenario is likely.

GD makes great units, and I am a fan.... But they are heavy for the reasons I like them.
Though this unit could technically be towed by the "right" 1/2 ton, one would need to be careful about the weight. It is a much better match for a 3/4-1 ton SRW.

OP: Pay attention to what the GD owners that responded are towing with. Not one of them has a 1/2 ton.
The only 1/2 ton proponent has a small KZ, with a GVWR of just 3500 lbs.
Huntindog
100% boondocking
2021 Grand Design Momentum 398M
2 bathrooms, no waiting
104 gal grey, 104 black,158 fresh
FullBodyPaint, 3,8Kaxles, DiscBrakes
17.5LRH commercial tires
1860watts solar,800 AH Battleborn batterys
2020 Silverado HighCountry CC DA 4X4 DRW

afidel
Explorer II
Explorer II
mbopp wrote:
We have a 2017 Imagine 2650, very happy with it. There's a GD forum and a few Facebook groups dedicated to GD's.
Hope you have a 3/4-ton to pull it.......


At 600 pounds dry tongue and 32 feet it would seem to be within what a well equipped half ton can reasonably handle with a couple in the truck. Why do you think he needs a 3/4?
2019 Dutchman Kodiak 293RLSL
2015 GMC 1500 Sierra 4x4 5.3 3.42 full bed
Equalizer 10k WDH

ksbowman
Explorer II
Explorer II
We have a 2016 303rls 5th wheel and could not be happier. It has been a wonderful unit with very little flaws. Would definitely buy another GD product.

Walaby
Explorer II
Explorer II
Have a GD Reflection 5er. Very happy with it thus far. Owned just about a year (year next month). Have heard GD customer service is great, but have not had a reason to test that out.

Mike
Im Mike Willoughby, and I approve this message.
2017 Ram 3500 CTD (aka FRAM)
2019 GrandDesign Reflection 367BHS

mbopp
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Explorer
We have a 2017 Imagine 2650, very happy with it. There's a GD forum and a few Facebook groups dedicated to GD's.
Hope you have a 3/4-ton to pull it.......
2017 Grand Design Imagine 2650RK
2019 F250 XLT Supercab
Just DW & me......

CaLBaR
Explorer
Explorer
ajmcd64 wrote:
Hello all,

Not new here but in hibernation for a while...
We are about to pull the trigger on a Grand Design 2670MK. Looking for feedback from Grand Design owners in general, and owners of the 2670MK regarding design, drawbacks, etc.

Thanks in advance!


We have a Reflection 297RSTS and are very happy with it so far. Had things that needed to be fixed but dealer took care of them. Recently notice that the outside furnace door was rusting, happens in Canada with the salt on the roads. Called GD and even out of warranty for 3 months and a week later had a new one delivered.

All in all would buy another Grand Design trailer.
2018 Grand Design Reflection 297RSTS
2019 RAM 3500 SRW Big Horn 4x4, 6.7 Cummins/Aisin
2007 Rockwood 8298 SS (Traded in 2018)
2009 Toyota Tundra 4x4 Crew Max 5.7L (Traded in 2019)
HP Dual Cam Sway Control
Prodigy Brake Controller