HEY we need a sticky for our TT pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Viken]

I was just looking at 5er's, toy haulers, and slide in, sites and they have a sticky for their rig pics. We don't. I just saw that. Is it just me or do we TT guys and gals need a sticky for our rigs. I say yes we do.

[DavidP]

pk1023 wrote:
Jesus, do we have to have the weight discussion here too? Can't we just look at pretty pictures and let people make their own mistakes?

Not sure if Jesus will join the discussion. A question was asked and couple people answered. I tow with the same vehicle and asked a few questions and shared some info and my experience.

[pk1023]

Jesus, do we have to have the weight discussion here too? Can't we just look at pretty pictures and let people make their own mistakes?

[DavidP]

rangerbait wrote:

DavidP wrote:


Nice trailer. How does the Armada do in pulling that house? I too tow with an Armada and it is a very capable sure footed workhorse but that is a lot of trailer. 35 feet and 7400 dry is well exceeding the Armada’s capabilities. Sure, it will pull it and with the power and torque of the Armada it will pull it just fine but the length and potentially the weight puts that trailer in ¾ ton land.

Enjoy the trailer!

I realize at that weight the trailer will be approaching the max per the Armada's tow rating (9,000lbs), but curious as to why you say it's exceeding its capabilities? I'm looking at the ProPride hitch system as an option if the sway is unruly, even with the friction sway bar. I'll be taking it out on the road for an evaluation ride in a few days, and will report back.

At 7400 dry you would need at minimum 960+ on the tongue. No one tows a dry camper so let’s say your are 8000 loaded, that puts over 1040 in needed tongue weight. Once cargo and passengers are in the truck you are likely over your payload. Even if you manage to stay under the payload somehow you will most likely be over in tongue weight. You should have at least 13% of total trailer weight in TW. This would put you over in tongue weight. I think the total weight and 35 foot length of your trailer is too much for the Armada. I speak from experience and have towed with the Armada for over 10 years. It is a great capable TV but like everything has its limits and I believe your trailer goes past those limits. At a minimum I don’t see how you will stay under the Max Payload. I don’t doubt the Armada’s capabilities, the truck is truly a beast. I pull just under a 30 footer loaded at about 6300 lbs. and 900 on the tongue. I have towed this set up for 6 years including much of the NC and VA mountains each year. We also pulled this setup to Florida the last 6 years. I know the capabilities of this truck as well or better than most. In my opinion your trailer exceeds the Armada capabilities. Just because the trailer weighs in under the max tow there is much more to consider. The hitch is important and the one you’re looking at is a good one but it will not alter/increase hard numbers of either truck or trailer. Good luck and enjoy the trailer.

[ReneeG]

rangerbait wrote:

DavidP wrote:


Nice trailer. How does the Armada do in pulling that house? I too tow with an Armada and it is a very capable sure footed workhorse but that is a lot of trailer. 35 feet and 7400 dry is well exceeding the Armada’s capabilities. Sure, it will pull it and with the power and torque of the Armada it will pull it just fine but the length and potentially the weight puts that trailer in ¾ ton land.

Enjoy the trailer!

I realize at that weight the trailer will be approaching the max per the Armada's tow rating (9,000lbs), but curious as to why you say it's exceeding its capabilities? I'm looking at the ProPride hitch system as an option if the sway is unruly, even with the friction sway bar. I'll be taking it out on the road for an evaluation ride in a few days, and will report back.

Good idea on another hitch. When we had a TT (actually several), we went from a 27 to a 32 and just the length caused problems with our then tow vehicle an F250 short bed. We invested in a Hensley Arrow and it made all the difference in the world and for safety too.

[DakotaDad]

rangerbait wrote:


I realize at that weight the trailer will be approaching the max per the Armada's tow rating (9,000lbs), but curious as to why you say it's exceeding its capabilities? I'm looking at the ProPride hitch system as an option if the sway is unruly, even with the friction sway bar. I'll be taking it out on the road for an evaluation ride in a few days, and will report back.

I think he's suggesting that you'll be pushing or exceeding your capabilities not because of the tow rating (which will be close in it's own right), but because you'll likely end up very close, or over, the payload capability of the Armada.

Payload capacity on the Armada varies from about 1300lbs to about 1700lbs, probably depending on trim package, 2wd vs 4wd, etc.

So if you run the numbers for your trailer, you'll see how quickly you can approach your payload max.

That 7400lb dry weight trailer may weigh a few hundred pounds more, as dry weight usually doesn't include options. But we'll use 7400 weight anyway. Add 1000lbs in gear, as an average. We add less, but most people add more. That makes 8400lbs, assuming you travel with completely empty water/sewer tanks. If your hitch weight is 13% (fairly standard), that's 1092 lbs. Add 75-100lbs for your weight distributing hitch. You're close to 1200lbs already out of your 1300-1700lbs of cargo.

And that's an empty tow vehicle, aside from the driver. How many passengers will you have? How much will they weigh? As little as one 100lb passenger COULD put you at your limit. Or, over, if your TT is actually more than 7400lbs, or you add more than 1000lbs of gear to the trailer, or you want to carry water with you.

This is a pics thread, not a weight police thread, so I'll leave it at that. Just run ALL of your numbers very carefully, get some accurate scale weights rather than guestimating and put a LOT of attention on payload/cargo capacity of the Armada, more than overall towing capacity. Keep it safe for you and your family.

[aztraveller]

Been Lurking here for a while so thought I'd share. I've enjoyed Seeing everyone's rigs.

New-ish (6 months old) 2015 Winnebago Ultralight 27rbds. So far we are enjoying it a lot. Currently prepping for a 2 month, 4200 mile trip this summer.

[rangerbait]

DavidP wrote:


Nice trailer. How does the Armada do in pulling that house? I too tow with an Armada and it is a very capable sure footed workhorse but that is a lot of trailer. 35 feet and 7400 dry is well exceeding the Armada’s capabilities. Sure, it will pull it and with the power and torque of the Armada it will pull it just fine but the length and potentially the weight puts that trailer in ¾ ton land.

Enjoy the trailer!

I realize at that weight the trailer will be approaching the max per the Armada's tow rating (9,000lbs), but curious as to why you say it's exceeding its capabilities? I'm looking at the ProPride hitch system as an option if the sway is unruly, even with the friction sway bar. I'll be taking it out on the road for an evaluation ride in a few days, and will report back.

[DavidP]

rangerbait wrote:

ggrant119 wrote:
What's the new TV? ... the new unit looks super nice!

Thanks! We're definitely excited to have the additional room. Same TV: 2011 Nissan Armada.

Nice trailer. How does the Armada do in pulling that house? I too tow with an Armada and it is a very capable sure footed workhorse but that is a lot of trailer. 35 feet and 7400 dry is well exceeding the Armada’s capabilities. Sure, it will pull it and with the power and torque of the Armada it will pull it just fine but the length and potentially the weight puts that trailer in ¾ ton land.

Enjoy the trailer!

[rangerbait]

thirtydaZe wrote:

This is at RafterJ, I loved this spot.

That IS a great spot!! We stayed there for 5 days this past May and had a great time!

[rangerbait]

ggrant119 wrote:
What's the new TV? ... the new unit looks super nice!

Thanks! We're definitely excited to have the additional room. Same TV: 2011 Nissan Armada.

[ggrant119]

What's the new TV? ... the new unit looks super nice!

rangerbait wrote:
Getting excited for our new TT to arrive next week...this was our old setup, with which we traveled across the country twice already, and our new trailer with shots from the dealership.

Old setup, just sold a month ago:







And the new rig:

[ggrant119]

Really nice unit ... best of luck with it!

HeyJude wrote:
I finally had my new to us 2011 Cedar Creek Silver Back 29rl delivered to our lot in Northern MI. last Sat. Loving the view out of the windows. It is much more suited to us than the bunkhouse we bought for the grandkids. I think we will get many years of enjoyment from this Fifth Wheel. It is amazing what you find when you actually take possession of the 5er. I have to say, they were not as good of housekeepers as I am. I spent all of Sat. and most of Sunday detailing the inside. Next Saturday if our water is turned on I will be doing the outside.

[HeyJude]

I finally had my new to us 2011 Cedar Creek Silver Back 29rl delivered to our lot in Northern MI. last Sat. Loving the view out of the windows. It is much more suited to us than the bunkhouse we bought for the grandkids. I think we will get many years of enjoyment from this Fifth Wheel. It is amazing what you find when you actually take possession of the 5er. I have to say, they were not as good of housekeepers as I am. I spent all of Sat. and most of Sunday detailing the inside. Next Saturday if our water is turned on I will be doing the outside.

[rangerbait]

Getting excited for our new TT to arrive next week...this was our old setup, with which we traveled across the country twice already, and our new trailer with shots from the dealership.

Old setup, just sold a month ago:







And the new rig:

[rangerbait]

Nikki_B wrote:
Chomping at the bit to take this beauty out this year. Only got to take it out a couple times after we purchased it last fall.

Nice setup! How does the Armada do with that trailer and what's its weight? We're about to take delivery of our new 35' TT and will be towing with an Armada as well.