Just bought a '17 Chevy Silverado 1500

[CherylH]

2017 silverado 1500 LT crew cab**
EcoTec3 5.3L V8 Flex Fuel, 6-Speed Automatic, 3.42 Rear Axle Ratio w/5.3L V8 engine, Color-Keyed Carpeting w/Rubberized Vinyl Floor Mats, Custom Convenience Package, Electric Rear-Window Defogger, Heavy-Duty Rear Locking Differential, Integrated Trailer Brake Controller, Rear Vision Camera, Remote Keyless Entry, Remote Locking Tailgate, Trailering Package

I am looking at getting a Grey Wolf 26BH

GVWR W/brakes 7402
Cargo Capacity 2823


Do I add those 2 together ?
the way they break down, in this catalog, confuses me.
axle weight, ship weight, unloaded vehicle weight and dry hitch weight..

[CherylH]

BenK wrote:
GVWR..........Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, what that vehicle is rated for...you need to provide this info, as some OEMs has over a dozen GVWR half tons. From +6K GVWR up to +7K GVWR

GAWR..........Gross Axle Weight Rating, what that axle is rated for...you need to provide this info. Most half ton's, no matter which GVWR (except for the +8K GVWR fake half ton) has GAWR's in the +4K range. Compared to bigger/higher rated 3/4 ton and up will have +5K Front GAWR and +6K Rear GAWR

MTWR..........Max Tow Weight Rating, what the TV in 'curb' condition (meaning stripper model with NO optional equipment, other than the tow option and one 150 lb driver) can tow. Plus most ratings derive their numbers using the stripper models both in TV and trailer (dry weight)

GCWR..........Gross Combined Weight Rating, what that vehicle (TV) is rated to pull/carry in total

"R" is ratings and the OP needs to make a decision whether to believe in & adhere to them, or ignore them and do whatever...but know that the manufacturer's most likely will NOT provide warranty both in fixing something and liability

Here is the generic formula for the ratings system:

GCWR >= TV + trailer + stuff

Stuff being ANYTHING loaded into and onto both the TV and trailer. Plus the WD Hitch system

Most of the items the OP has listed below are fashion statement stuff and not much to do with towing...except that they add weight to the 'curb' (stripper model) weight

EcoTec3 5.3L V8 Flex Fuel....small block that is rated to also run on a blend of corn alcohol. Note that any blend will have less power per gallon than pure high quality gasoline. Not going to win many races with this, but it is NOT a race and used that analogy to make the point for going up inclines.

6-Speed Automatic, 3.42 Rear Axle Ratio....Automatic will have a low 1st gear, but only to get it moving. 3.42 is a highway MPG diff ratio, IMHO, but that is what you have. It can be changed out later to increase the MTWR & GCWR

Heavy-Duty Rear Locking Differential....most likely the G80 locker from Eaton. Check the glove box label and it will list all options that vehicle left the factory with. Look for G80

Integrated Trailer Brake Controller....Ok, you have a trailer brake controller and for newbies best as there is less to deal with on an install...but note that ITBC is highly integrated with the rest of the other computers on the vehicle...and that if one should have issues...often takes down the other computers (I'm not a fan of ITBC's)


Trailering Package....good and a must for towing. Make sure to always initiate the Tow/Haul function whenever you are towing or hauling heavy.

I am looking at getting a Grey Wolf 26BH-GVWR W/brakes 7402-Cargo Capacity 2823....that is towards the highest limit for any half ton, but repeat that you need to provide more info and best to go out and weigh your TV axle by axle for us to truly be helpful

Thanks! I linked 2 photos

[Sandia_Man]

The equipment listed above could make for a decent towing experience, at nearly 30' long, a high quality weight distribution hitch with integrated sway control, such as an Equalizer, would be particularly helpful for windy travel days. Being a half-ton tow vehicle you will still encounter difficulties traversing steep inclines in mountainous areas, it will be slower at times but you'll get where you are going. On mostly flatlands towing should be a comfortable experience, that's an impressive CCC for such a light TT, but over-packing with non-essentials will negatively affect your towing experience. Here's hoping your new TV & TT meets all your RVing expectations.

[CherylH]

glove box label
sorry blurry but its under hitch

[CherylH]

thank you!
I am getting a screen shot of that label..
I also took a photo UNDER the hitch receiver

[BenK]

GVWR..........Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, what that vehicle is rated for...you need to provide this info, as some OEMs has over a dozen GVWR half tons. From +6K GVWR up to +7K GVWR

GAWR..........Gross Axle Weight Rating, what that axle is rated for...you need to provide this info. Most half ton's, no matter which GVWR (except for the +8K GVWR fake half ton) has GAWR's in the +4K range. Compared to bigger/higher rated 3/4 ton and up will have +5K Front GAWR and +6K Rear GAWR

MTWR..........Max Tow Weight Rating, what the TV in 'curb' condition (meaning stripper model with NO optional equipment, other than the tow option and one 150 lb driver) can tow. Plus most ratings derive their numbers using the stripper models both in TV and trailer (dry weight)

GCWR..........Gross Combined Weight Rating, what that vehicle (TV) is rated to pull/carry in total

"R" is ratings and the OP needs to make a decision whether to believe in & adhere to them, or ignore them and do whatever...but know that the manufacturer's most likely will NOT provide warranty both in fixing something and liability

Here is the generic formula for the ratings system:

GCWR >= TV + trailer + stuff

Stuff being ANYTHING loaded into and onto both the TV and trailer. Plus the WD Hitch system

Most of the items the OP has listed below are fashion statement stuff and not much to do with towing...except that they add weight to the 'curb' (stripper model) weight






EcoTec3 5.3L V8 Flex Fuel....small block that is rated to also run on a blend of corn alcohol. Note that any blend will have less power per gallon than pure high quality gasoline. Not going to win many races with this, but it is NOT a race and used that analogy to make the point for going up inclines.


6-Speed Automatic, 3.42 Rear Axle Ratio....Automatic will have a low 1st gear, but only to get it moving. 3.42 is a highway MPG diff ratio, IMHO, but that is what you have. It can be changed out later to increase the MTWR & GCWR



Heavy-Duty Rear Locking Differential....most likely the G80 locker from Eaton. Check the glove box label and it will list all options that vehicle left the factory with. Look for G80


Integrated Trailer Brake Controller....Ok, you have a trailer brake controller and for newbies best as there is less to deal with on an install...but note that ITBC is highly integrated with the rest of the other computers on the vehicle...and that if one should have issues...often takes down the other computers (I'm not a fan of ITBC's)



Trailering Package....good and a must for towing. Make sure to always initiate the Tow/Haul function whenever you are towing or hauling heavy.


I am looking at getting a Grey Wolf 26BH-GVWR W/brakes 7402-Cargo Capacity 2823....that is towards the highest limit for any half ton, but repeat that you need to provide more info and best to go out and weigh your TV axle by axle for us to truly be helpful

CherylH wrote:
2017 silverado 1500 LT crew cab**
EcoTec3 5.3L V8 Flex Fuel, 6-Speed Automatic, 3.42 Rear Axle Ratio w/5.3L V8 engine, Color-Keyed Carpeting w/Rubberized Vinyl Floor Mats, Custom Convenience Package, Electric Rear-Window Defogger, Heavy-Duty Rear Locking Differential, Integrated Trailer Brake Controller, Rear Vision Camera, Remote Keyless Entry, Remote Locking Tailgate, Trailering Package

I am looking at getting a Grey Wolf 26BH

GVWR W/brakes 7402
Cargo Capacity 2823


Do I add those 2 together ?
the way they break down, in this catalog, confuses me.
axle weight, ship weight, unloaded vehicle weight and dry hitch weight..

[CherylH]

Ok added the links, to the photos, sorry

[CherylH]

did the photos post ok?
sorry first time on these forums

[CherylH]

first sticker on door

2nd sticker on door

[kerrlakeRoo]

In your case these are your numbers. for the trailler
The GVWR is the fully loaded weight. 7570
UVW iss the empty weight - 4947
Leaving you with a total payload,CCC stuff you load 2623

Hitch weight is totally seperate. It is the weight of the trailer tongue pressing down on the truck's ball. in this case. 570 lbs
This number matters because trucks have a tow capacity Weight you can pull.
As well as a payload capacity, amount of weight you can load IN the truck, which your hitch weight counts toward.

[CherylH]

IdaD wrote:
Look in on your driver door and post the max axle weights and get your max tire weight/pressure from the sidewall. You'll also want to know the max weight for your receiver hitch, which might be broken down between with and without weight distribution.

as on door:
GVWR 7200 lb
GAWR FRT 3950 lb
GAWR RR 3950 lb

[CherylH]

MNGEek, what other infor do you need me to get? Ill get it.

Thanks for replies. I've been looking at TONS of TTs. I just want to make sure I get the "RIGHT" one.

[IdaD]

Look in on your driver door and post the max axle weights and get your max tire weight/pressure from the sidewall. You'll also want to know the max weight for your receiver hitch, which might be broken down between with and without weight distribution.

[MNGeeks61]

CherylH wrote:
2017 silverado 1500 LT crew cab**
EcoTec3 5.3L V8 Flex Fuel, 6-Speed Automatic, 3.42 Rear Axle Ratio w/5.3L V8 engine, Color-Keyed Carpeting w/Rubberized Vinyl Floor Mats, Custom Convenience Package, Electric Rear-Window Defogger, Heavy-Duty Rear Locking Differential, Integrated Trailer Brake Controller, Rear Vision Camera, Remote Keyless Entry, Remote Locking Tailgate, Trailering Package

I am looking at getting a Grey Wolf 26BH

GVWR W/brakes 7402
Cargo Capacity 2823


Do I add those 2 together ?
the way they break down, in this catalog, confuses me.
axle weight, ship weight, unloaded vehicle weight and dry hitch weight..

UVW + CCC = GVWR

so 7402-2823 = 4579 uvw/dry

Axles have weight rating too, don't NEED to look at that just yet.

As for the tow vehicle, without more info, not sure if you will/might exceed your vehicle's capacity, or possibly damage transmission, etc. Lots of if's/maybes

[downtheroad]

No...don't add them together. Your gross weight rating is around 7400 lbs.
That is the max. it is rated for including everything you load into it (cargo) and all the accessories you bolt on to it.

You are looking at about 950 lbs of tongue weight when full loaded, not including the weight of the hitch.

[CherylH]

APT wrote:
Need more info on that Silverado. What cab/engine/trans/axle ratio? Does it have option code Z82 (HD Trailering) More importantly is how much weight do you expect in the cab and bed (people and cargo) and what does the Tire and Loading sticker list as maximum combined weight of occupants and cargo?

I just edited info,thanks