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Livin Lite Camplite owner - review/comments

Michael_in_MN
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A couple of questions about Camplite aluminum travel trailers came up in another thread, and rather than hijack that thread, I'll start a new one & try to answer any/all questions.

I recently purchased a Camplite 16BHB trailer & have since spent a few nights in it. I bought it late Dec 2011 for $18,500+tax. I have four nights & about 900 miles of towing this winter. I'm not new to camping (45+ years) but I am new to campers and travel trailers. This is my first non-tent.

The Camplite is fairly unique. There is no wood. The frame, structure, roof, siding, cabinets and bunks are all welded aluminum. The interior panels are either aluminum or Azdel. The floor is aluminum. The axles, stabilizers and steps are steel.

The most visual difference is that the interior is not 'residential'. It's somewhat sterile & industrial. I prefer the aluminum look to the faux wood, wallpaper, vinyl floor look of pretty much everything else, so for me, it is styled to my taste. I joke that it's the 'ambulance look'.

Another opinion:

Cedarhill wrote:
It reminded me of a mock up of the International Space Station I went in minus the instruments and controls. I wasn't sure I could get used to that.


The 'space station look', I like that. ๐Ÿ™‚ Make sure that you like the look before you take the leap.

It is quality construction. This is the only trailer out of a hundred or so that I looked at where the interior partitions don't flex, bend or rattle. The Azdel sheathing isn't as rigid as I'd prefer though. If I had custom ordered it, I might have gotten a fully aluminum interior.

The components (furnace, fans, fridge, air) are ordinary RV components. None are unique to Camplite. The stove top appears to be a good quality unit. The glass cover is nearly flush with the counter top, so it's easier to use as a work surface. The wet bath is small, to say the least. The furnace is really noisy.

Mine has the optional rear deck. The trailer frame and aluminum floor extend 3' beyond the rear of the trailer, making a platform that should be able to haul bikes, a scooter, a grill, camping gear or a rocking chair with a mannequin dressed to look like an old lady.

Some questions/answers:

cm wrote:
With an aluminum frame, floor, skin, how is it insulated?


The floor on mine is uninsulated, though it appears as though they offer spray on floor insulation as an option. I slept in it at roughly -10F with the heat off. The floor was cold. My spilled espresso froze instantly. ๐Ÿ™‚

The walls are insulated with what I presume is some form of polystyrene (they call it 'block foam'). The ceiling is insulated with 'block foam'. When I warmed up the trailer from -10F I had condensation wherever there was no insulation. I used the opportunity to mark the locations of the studs & joists for future DIY's. At +10F a single electric heater kept the trailer sleeping-bag comfortable overnight.

I can make the floor more comfortable in the cold by cutting high density closed cell foam or industrial carpeting to fit. I'm experimenting a bit. Livin Lite also offers snap-in carpeting as an option.

Cedarhill wrote:
...would you mind sharing the fuel economy of the Camplite/EcoBoost combination?


It depends on how fast I drive. I've gotten as low as 9mpg against a strong headwind and I've got 11mpg taking it easy at 55mph. I got about 10.5mpg at 60-65 with winter blend fuel on a cold day. I am hoping I do better in summer. The combination doesn't seem to be special as far as economy goes.



If anyone else has a Camplite, give a shout.
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LivinLite Camplite 16BHB
2015 Silverado 1500
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Poncherelly
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Explorer
exploringcarolina wrote:
Poncherelly wrote:
exploringcarolina wrote:


Is everyone towing their 21BHS with a V8 powered TV?


I'm pulling mine with a v6 3.0Supercharged ... tows very easy. in fact the 21 BHS is more narrow than my old PAlomino Stamped S17 and is lighter too, so this 21' trailer is easier to pull than my 17' old one.


Checked out the Q7 on the Audi site. Very nice tow vehicle!


Thx ๐Ÿ™‚ We had a Q5 for the Palomino and it pulled great also. The Tow limit for the Q5 was 4400 lbs and the Q7 is 6,600lbs which is more than enough for the 21BHS. Pulled it from Kitchener to Ottawa and it seemed easier on the car than the Palomino was.

As my mom says, no sense in being poor and looking it ๐Ÿ˜„
2015 Camplite 21BHS pulled by a 2014 Audi Q7

Now that's camping ๐Ÿ™‚

Poncherelly
Explorer
Explorer
Poncherelly wrote:
djsamuel wrote:
None of that came on my 21BHS. They would probably add it as part of an order. They are good at accommodating special requests.


Ah, good to know thx. Unfortunately I already have the TT and I'm in Canada so I'll be putting it all in myself it looks like.

Seems odd that it's left off by default though .... ah well.


Just found this : http://www.rvgauge.com/contact_us.shtml
Reached out to the company ... if this comes back at a resonable cost, I'll be installing this for sure!
2015 Camplite 21BHS pulled by a 2014 Audi Q7

Now that's camping ๐Ÿ™‚

exploringcaroli
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Explorer
Poncherelly wrote:
exploringcarolina wrote:


Is everyone towing their 21BHS with a V8 powered TV?


I'm pulling mine with a v6 3.0Supercharged ... tows very easy. in fact the 21 BHS is more narrow than my old PAlomino Stamped S17 and is lighter too, so this 21' trailer is easier to pull than my 17' old one.


Checked out the Q7 on the Audi site. Very nice tow vehicle!
Bill
Oliver Elite II
5.7L Tundra 4X4

Poncherelly
Explorer
Explorer
djsamuel wrote:
None of that came on my 21BHS. They would probably add it as part of an order. They are good at accommodating special requests.


Ah, good to know thx. Unfortunately I already have the TT and I'm in Canada so I'll be putting it all in myself it looks like.

Seems odd that it's left off by default though .... ah well.
2015 Camplite 21BHS pulled by a 2014 Audi Q7

Now that's camping ๐Ÿ™‚

Poncherelly
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exploringcarolina wrote:
When we move up in size from the 11RD, decided to go with a 21BHS. Like the bunks, dinette, and 60X80 queen bed that has room on both sides to get on & off. At first we were interested in the 13QBB, but decided to go with a larger CampLite. Thinking our 2013 260HP V6 Frontier with a 6300lb towing capacity will be sufficient to tow the 21BHS with empty weight around 3600lbs with GVW of 5000lbs.

Is everyone towing their 21BHS with a V8 powered TV?


I'm pulling mine with a v6 3.0Supercharged ... tows very easy. in fact the 21 BHS is more narrow than my old PAlomino Stamped S17 and is lighter too, so this 21' trailer is easier to pull than my 17' old one.
2015 Camplite 21BHS pulled by a 2014 Audi Q7

Now that's camping ๐Ÿ™‚

exploringcaroli
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks for the calculator information. I figured worst case scenario with the trailer at maximum 5000 lbs and a 20% safety margin.

Tongue weight, Gross Combined Vehicle Weight, travel trailer Gross Weight, are within Nissan's recommended capacities.

The 21BHS @ 5000 lbs Gross Weight is too heavy for my pickup with a 20% safety factor.

Not in a hurry, so will continue to camp with current rig while deciding the next move.

Guess I'm spoiled towing a 1500LB 11RD CampLite camper with the Frontier. If I'm on the interstate & blocked when trying to get in the right lane, have plenty of power on hand to pass if needed & maintain a good speed going up mountains. The wind has not been a issue yet & towed in windy situations, too. MPG so far with this rig is around 16MPG @ 55MPH. Some of the camp sites in the mountains & on the beach work well with the 11RD.

Maybe we don't need the extra room after all! ๐Ÿ™‚

Thanks Again,
Bill
Oliver Elite II
5.7L Tundra 4X4

mdf719
Explorer
Explorer
Rather than guessing what tow capacity you have- check out changing' gears travel trailer tow calculator. you need to find certain info and plug it in. My friend has rolled 2 camping trailers, my uncle has to change his rear tires twice on any long trip....

I have a 05 Tahoe v8 5.3l engine. When I ran the calculator- max tow and cargo- 4,000lbs. The 2010 13qbb-camplite no bath, at 1600lbs +cargo 1000lbs. Towing with the Tahoe - not a shimmy, did not get blown over by the 50 mph wind gusts. Barley bogged down on the hills.

The manufacture tow rating? 8,000lbs.

exploringcaroli
Explorer
Explorer
djsamuel wrote:
None of that came on my 21BHS. They would probably add it as part of an order. They are good at accommodating special requests.


Nice looking rig!
Bill
Oliver Elite II
5.7L Tundra 4X4

exploringcaroli
Explorer
Explorer
When we move up in size from the 11RD, decided to go with a 21BHS. Like the bunks, dinette, and 60X80 queen bed that has room on both sides to get on & off. At first we were interested in the 13QBB, but decided to go with a larger CampLite. Thinking our 2013 260HP V6 Frontier with a 6300lb towing capacity will be sufficient to tow the 21BHS with empty weight around 3600lbs with GVW of 5000lbs.

Is everyone towing their 21BHS with a V8 powered TV?
Bill
Oliver Elite II
5.7L Tundra 4X4

djsamuel
Nomad
Nomad
None of that came on my 21BHS. They would probably add it as part of an order. They are good at accommodating special requests.

2013 Camplite 21BHS Trailer, Ram 1500 Tow Vehicle

Poncherelly
Explorer
Explorer
Hey guys, just picked up a Camplite 21BHS and was wondering if yours came with a controll panel for the clear / grey / black tanks? I don't have one nor do I have the battery or propane gauge in a control pannel.

Is this something they don't add or is it just mine?
2015 Camplite 21BHS pulled by a 2014 Audi Q7

Now that's camping ๐Ÿ™‚

BroncosFan
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They've been in business a number of years.

bigjoey38
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BroncosFan wrote:
There are these in Henderson, Colorado your home state came to mind. People do the Aliner and 13 foot scamps with your car might be without the bath though to save weight. Take care.
http://www.weiscrafttrailers.com/index.html



anyone check these guys out

bigjoey38
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Explorer
exploringcarolina wrote:
Yep, we like them, too. If we move up in size, will probably buy a LivinLite CampLite 13QBB.



Like to get a LivinLite CampLite 13QBB in 2015.. Looking to see if anyone has one in Colorado?

exploringcaroli
Explorer
Explorer
Paid $10,000 for our new 11RD from a dealer. Ours is a basic camper, but the more we look at campers this camper is the one for us.

PM sent.
Bill
Oliver Elite II
5.7L Tundra 4X4