Old Fleetwood/Coleman stove in a Low-pressure system?

[gemde]

We recently purchased a Palomino S238 (2013) and want to use the old outdoor stove from our 1988 Fleetwood/Coleman Avalon. It appears to be a high pressure unit, though and the HTT has the quick connect propane outlet. Any ideas?

[Chuck_S]

If you like really big flames try this. But I already did. :E

You need a regulator and this doesn't have one. A gas grill has one and you should be able to find a long enough hose for it. I didn't want to have to connect and run the hose every time. The Coleman setup was perfect but too much effort for me to plumb it.

-- Chci

[gemde]

How about using a dedicated 20 pound tank with this type of hose?? I REALLY miss that stove already!

[Chuck_S]

The high pressure stove puts out probably twice the heat of the low pressure.

I gave up after years of attempting to get this to work, including working with my LP/welding supplier. It did not seem worth the effort to me as the stove is non-adaptable to low pressure hence the trailer needs to be modified.

To get it to work you need the gas system pictured above and plumbing to the stove mounting point (unless you want to get out and trip over a hose every time). You'll recall Coleman/Fleetwood ran pipe to the outside stove location with a capped outlet on the frame under it.

You'll need a "high pressure" regulator between the cylinders and your existing two stage regulator with a Tee connector in between the two regulators. The "high pressure" regulator is the same as a gas grill regulator according to the LP shop.

Cylinder --> HP reg --> Tee --> 2-stage reg --> Trailer
......................................\
.......................................\
........................................High pressure stove

Low pressure regulator can't handle tank pressure so it needs a high pressure first stage. Separate high and low pressure regulators do not meet "Code." Hence the appearance of the two stage regulators combining both.

Two high pressure regulators in series would be redundant if you didn't need the high pressure tapped off between them.

LP pressure INSIDE the camper (or dwelling) must be low pressure. High pressure to your furnace, stove, or other LP appliance will cause a massive flame and is highly dangerous.

-- Chuck

[orggardn]

Chuck - you and I have discussed this before. Does your post mean that you now have your high pressure stove working? I sure hope so. I miss my old Coleman stove so bad. It was awesome and we miss having it.

I don't understand why the manufacturers stopped putting these stoves. They are some much more effective, not even accounting for any wind.

I'd be very interested in learning more how you finally pieced this together.From regulator to stove. Please contact me via private mail if you can share more details.

[Chuck_S]

I gave up trying to get this to work for years!

The Fleetwood "Elite" models had an indoor low pressure stove and an outdoor High pressure stove.

There is no regulator on the stove, it uses the high power regulator on the trailer. Fleetwood used a split regulator with the high pressure tapped off between the two.

This is the system needed to use the high pressure stove. The hose with the red tag is high pressure not tank pressure, note it's upstream from the first regulator.



Here's the stove:



Low pressure trailer LP outlet (left); high pressure stove inlet (right) -- They ain't gonna mate! Even if you make an adapter the high pressure stove will not run on the low pressure gas system.



-- Chuck

[gemde]

The older Fleetwood/Coleman had a separate outdoor stove that stored in the forward storage. It is not quick-connect, but a Female screw-on connection.

[hmknightnc]

If your old stove just plugged into your old trailer system then it is most likely a normal low pressure stove as the regulator on trailers with portable tanks connect directly to the tank making the whole trailer low pressure.

Why do you think it is high pressure? Does it have its own seperate regulater?

[bikendan]

from what i've read, you have to remove the regulator off the old stove, since the trailer's pre-connect is low pressure.

not sure how good of a flame you'll get though. there are plenty of posts/threads about this, if you do a seach.