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โJun-16-2015 07:39 PM
qtla9111 wrote:
Great video unfortunately, another downside to the U.S. market because in Europe they are big on diesel cars and SUVs. No need to defend the market, it's just that it is behind the rest of the world for some unknown reason.
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โJun-16-2015 07:38 PM
qtla9111 wrote:
As an SUV owner I understand some of the frustration the OP is going through. There are some legitimate points. It is obvious that the rv manufacturers pay little attention to the vehicle market and the growing number of SUVs. Some people like pickups and some don't.
I prefer an SUV as it holds up to nine passengers when not towing, gets decent gas mileage and can also pull my rv. You don't see many if any 24ft TTs with two slideouts.
Someone on page two mentioned the European market and with reason. The U.S. is way behind other markets and it's not just Europeans, it is also the Japanese and the Chinese.
Why would I want to go out and buy a new tow vehicle when there should be something manufactured to cater to the SUV market? Going out to buy a pickup to accommodate an rv is like putting the cart before the horse. Makes no sense.
I think the reason we are seeing this dilemma is because rv manufacturers realize how gullible the consumer market is. They can produce anything they want cheaply and people will find a work around to make it fit even if it means buying a new vehicle. Crazy.
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johnsoax wrote:Lantley wrote:
When you become a serious/dedicated camper you will make the necessary changes,adaptations and compromises to obtain a capable tow vehicle and a RV that matches it.
As someone who has been camping in mutiple forms for over 30 years, this comment is breathtaking in its arrogance.
If you would meander into the Folding camper forum you will see I am not alone, by far.
โJun-16-2015 07:09 PM
โJun-16-2015 06:56 PM
itguy08 wrote:johnsoax wrote:
MOST SUVs have this limitation. So RV manufacturers should build around it. But they don't. The majority of potential customers are often told they need to buy a bigger truck to pull what they need/want. Yet the only time they need a bigger vehicle is to pull a camper. With popups basically going away, this is an issue that will most likely push campers into an even smaller niche market.
The engineering works for what I want, I just can't find anyone that makes it.
Not sure on the SUV but run the #'s against what the manufacturer says and go from there....
People said I was crazy thinking about our unit (Open Range LT272RLS, 35' long, 32' box, under 8k according to it's yellow sticker, under 10k gross) and towing it with our 2011 F150 Ecoboost with Max Tow. From Ford I've got 1800+ lbs Payload, a 11,300 tow capacity.
Dealer set us up with a 14,000b Equalizer hitch as we are new to this.
Well, we got the trailer and I figured worst case would be I'd upgrade if need be. Have about 200 miles on it and it tows fine. A little bouncy on the back roads but I've still got the P-rated tires on it and all stock. On the interstate it's fine. Have been passed by semis, cars, trucks, etc. At 65 MPH its stable. At 70 (fastest I've gone) it's also stable. On a windy day there was a little motion back and forth but even the semi in front of us was showing signs as well.
We've got some longer trips planned later this summer and we'll see how well it does and I'm thinking maybe air bags to make the bounciness a little better but so far I'm pleased with it. Is it the BEST? Probably not. Is it working well? Yup.
So run the #'s and let that guide you. If it fits within what the manufacturer says, you should be fine. But if you are on the edge, prepare for a vehicle upgrade.
โJun-16-2015 06:44 PM
โJun-16-2015 06:42 PM
johnsoax wrote:
MOST SUVs have this limitation. So RV manufacturers should build around it. But they don't. The majority of potential customers are often told they need to buy a bigger truck to pull what they need/want. Yet the only time they need a bigger vehicle is to pull a camper. With popups basically going away, this is an issue that will most likely push campers into an even smaller niche market.
The engineering works for what I want, I just can't find anyone that makes it.
โJun-16-2015 06:38 PM
therink wrote:
Unsubscribe from this mess. Apparently the OP didn't like what they heard.
โJun-16-2015 06:37 PM
โJun-16-2015 06:32 PM
johnsoax wrote:
Lucky you. I've been checking craigslist about every day since April. Trailers like I want sell out in a mater of hours. The bigger ones stay on for days.
I'm glad you found what you are looking for.