Stable Load advice

[SlideInDad]

So installed the lower stable loads today and went on perfectly on passenger side with all 3 plates per instructions. Driver side a bit of a different story. Spacing between overload and rest of springs is 102mm(4") front side and only 52mm(2") rear so I could only put two plates on the rear per instruction and installed full set forward side per instructions. Problem is now I still have a full 1/4"+ left of space on driver side front leafs when engaged before loading. Passenger side will be fully engaged sitting higher than driver side. I could actually fit a 4th plate on the driver fwd position but the extra plate not used from the driver rear is angled the wrong way though not sure that really matters other than for looks.

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[SlideInDad]

Crumm wrote:

languiduck wrote:
That may be the most confusing thing I have ever read in my life. You either have 2, 3, 4, or 6 plates according to what you've written.

He has three on the right front, three on the right rear, three on the left front and two on the left rear. His question is would it be ok to run four on the left front and two on the left rear. Simple answer would be try it and see. Might be fine with 3/2 also as the crown in the road leans truck to right.

The uneven gap may be from a uneven spring pad, wore spring, manufacturing glitch, axle wrap or many other things. They are just leaf springs not rocket engines so it doesn't really matter. If you are going to put stable load steel wedges between them they will be wore out before long anyway.

Thanks for understanding, couldn't figure out any other way to be more clear on this. I did put the 4th on drive side front and it fit fine. Needed a longer bolt that holds the sandwich of plates together but that was easy. I now have the same spacing on both 2 front stable loads and both 2 rear stable loads. Will load camper Wed and report how it went.

[Crumm]

languiduck wrote:
That may be the most confusing thing I have ever read in my life. You either have 2, 3, 4, or 6 plates according to what you've written.

He has three on the right front, three on the right rear, three on the left front and two on the left rear. His question is would it be ok to run four on the left front and two on the left rear. Simple answer would be try it and see. Might be fine with 3/2 also as the crown in the road leans truck to right.

The uneven gap may be from a uneven spring pad, wore spring, manufacturing glitch, axle wrap or many other things. They are just leaf springs not rocket engines so it doesn't really matter. If you are going to put stable load steel wedges between them they will be wore out before long anyway.

[Bedlam]

Your StableLoads came in a set of four. Use three wedge plates on each one. The fact that you have different spacing between left and right spring packs indicates your suspension is warped. Front to rear gap of the spring pack may be different due to the geometry of your spring arch (this is normal). Once you apply weight with the StableLoads engaged, it will mask some of your uneven suspension issues and should allow the camper to sit more level.

[languiduck]

That may be the most confusing thing I have ever read in my life. You either have 2, 3, 4, or 6 plates according to what you've written.

[SlideInDad]

languiduck wrote:

SlideInDad wrote:
So does anyone see an issue with me using 4 plates on the front driver side with 2 plates on the rear driver side? Seems I'd get the exact same height at point of engagement this way where with the current (only 3 per instructions) on front of driver side there's an extra 1/4" gap between stable loads and spring pack that isn't there on the other 3 corners.

I see that creating an unequal load side to side. Put the same amount on each side. Just put as many plates on each side as you can while it still being easy to engage and disengage. If it isn't easy to operate you won't like them IMO. If you have airbags, fill them before loading, which will give you some more space to engage the stable loads. That's what I do. I have one side that is easy and one side that doesn't have quite as much room to engage.

Really though, if there is a 2 plate discrepancy side to side I'd wonder why. Enough so that I would fix that issue or at least determine why.

There's a misunderstanding of my problem. Currently there's a 1 plate discrepancy side to side due to the fact that I can only fit 2 plates on rear of driver side where I have 3 everywhere else. Additionally I have room to fit a 4th on front of driver side. If I did put a 4th on front of driver side I'd have 6 passenger side and 6 driver side and all would engage at the same height. As it is now driver side will sag 1/4" further before engaging overload.

[languiduck]

SlideInDad wrote:
So does anyone see an issue with me using 4 plates on the front driver side with 2 plates on the rear driver side? Seems I'd get the exact same height at point of engagement this way where with the current (only 3 per instructions) on front of driver side there's an extra 1/4" gap between stable loads and spring pack that isn't there on the other 3 corners.

I see that creating an unequal load side to side. Put the same amount on each side. Just put as many plates on each side as you can while it still being easy to engage and disengage. If it isn't easy to operate you won't like them IMO. If you have airbags, fill them before loading, which will give you some more space to engage the stable loads. That's what I do. I have one side that is easy and one side that doesn't have quite as much room to engage.

Really though, if there is a 2 plate discrepancy side to side I'd wonder why. Enough so that I would fix that issue or at least determine why.

[ticki2]

It sounds like the drivers side overload spring is not symmetrical . I would first try using three plates front and rear and see if it closes up the 1/4" gap .

[SlideInDad]

So does anyone see an issue with me using 4 plates on the front driver side with 2 plates on the rear driver side? Seems I'd get the exact same height at point of engagement this way where with the current (only 3 per instructions) on front of driver side there's an extra 1/4" gap between stable loads and spring pack that isn't there on the other 3 corners.

[Crumm]

SlideInDad wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Well one side is sagging a little. Older truck right? I'd jack it up and get equal plates as needed.
When u load the camper on it it will be better that way IMO.

That doesn't really make sense. The stable load is designed to turn in before loading and turn out when unloaded. To do what you're saying I'd have to jack the truck up every time I loaded or unloaded?

I had to jack up my 2015 F350 to engage the stableloads so I took them off and use some energy suspension 9.9117 bump stops instead. I just jack it up under the hitch with a floor jack and drop them in the spring holes. No rattle and no wear with the polyurethane instead of steel on steel. Stableloads heading for eBay.

[Bedlam]

I used all three plates on my F250. The StableLoads on the rear end of the spring could be engaged/disengaged with the truck empty. The front ones could work the same way with two plates but I would jack up the receiver a little to squeeze all three plates up front.

If you have different gaps between right and left sides, you have deformed springs.

[sky_free]

SlideInDad wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
Well one side is sagging a little. Older truck right? I'd jack it up and get equal plates as needed.
When u load the camper on it it will be better that way IMO.

That doesn't really make sense. The stable load is designed to turn in before loading and turn out when unloaded. To do what you're saying I'd have to jack the truck up every time I loaded or unloaded?

Same deal on my 2012 F350, although there is no difference between left and right, which is something you should probably look into since you are hauling a heavy load. The gaps are just too small all around so I do have to jack it up by the hitch if I want all 3 plates. 2 of them don't do as much good, so I live with the hassle. It's not really that big of a deal and only takes a couple of extra minutes. They have held up well over the past couple of years even though the tolerance is tighter than ideal.

[wcjeep]

Are your airbags equal?

[SlideInDad]

Grit dog wrote:
Well one side is sagging a little. Older truck right? I'd jack it up and get equal plates as needed.
When u load the camper on it it will be better that way IMO.

That doesn't really make sense. The stable load is designed to turn in before loading and turn out when unloaded. To do what you're saying I'd have to jack the truck up every time I loaded or unloaded?

[Grit_dog]

Well one side is sagging a little. Older truck right? I'd jack it up and get equal plates as needed.
When u load the camper on it it will be better that way IMO.