May-02-2016 06:35 PM
May-06-2016 08:33 AM
SoundGuy wrote:
... it was Jayco which had serious issues for specific model years with their version of TPO roof membrane. KZ never had any issues and as a result neither did I in 6 yrs we owned our 2008 KZ Spree ...
Bumpyroad wrote:
so you are saying that KZ never used felt backed TPO?
May-06-2016 08:25 AM
May-06-2016 08:08 AM
rbpru wrote:
My question is, you have finally found the TT with the size you can tow, the floor plan you like and a price you can afford. The DW loves it.
Are you really going to settle for something else because of the roof material?
May-06-2016 07:19 AM
May-06-2016 06:15 AM
CavemanCharlie wrote:edatlanta wrote:Bumpyroad wrote:gat75 wrote:
I think you will find that there are practically nothing but TTs with rubber roofs available. Fiberglass would be more durable, you just gonna have a hard time finding fiberglass on anything but MH roof.
lots of small TTs with fiberglass roofs. I wouldn't have another rubber one myself.
bumpy
I was getting ready to make this exact same statement Bumpy, but you beat me to it.
I had a EPDM roof that was properly maintained, not damaged, caulked frequently, etc. and at 5 years service the membrane started failing. Moisture was leaking through the membrane. This is obviously an expensive issue and the 12 year rubber roof warranty that all manufacturers advertise is totally worthless. Try to make a claim and see how far that gets you.
I had my rubber roof replaced with RV Flex Armor (rvroof.com). I will never ever have another rubber roof other than the length of time it takes to take delivery and take it to a rvroof.com install facility.
And now I can even hear the television when it is raining due to the thickness of the RV Flex Armor material.
Ya, but, they have a very limited installation area. If you live nearby that's great. But, what about those of us that are 1000's of miles away ?
May-06-2016 06:09 AM
SoundGuy wrote:edatlanta wrote:
I had a EPDM roof that was properly maintained, not damaged, caulked frequently, etc. and at 5 years service the membrane started failing. Moisture was leaking through the membrane. This is obviously an expensive issue and the 12 year rubber roof warranty that all manufacturers advertise is totally worthless. Try to make a claim and see how far that gets you.SoundGuy wrote:
A misstatement of fact. The 12 yr roof warranty is on the membrane itself, not the trailer roof, and is not offered by "all manufacturers" but rather by the membrane manufacturer which in the majority of cases will be Alpha Systems. If your rubber roof membrane was thinning to the point where it was leaking before the 12 yr mark any claim would have had to have been made to the manufacturer of the membrane.Bumpyroad wrote:
sort of picking nits here aren't we? it still boils down to an EPDM roof sucking.
Nitpicking? :h Either the roof is covered under warranty for 12 yrs or it's not - the correct answer is that no trailer manufacturer offers a 12 yr warranty on any roof. 12 yr warranties apply solely to the membrane itself and that warranty has nothing to do with the trailer manufacturer which assembled the roof.
As I said earlier I'd personally prefer to not have an EPDM roof but the reality is that the vast majority of trailers are built using this product because it's the most cost effective method ... the fact that we as consumers have to later stand on our heads to ensure our EPDM roof doesn't leak is just one of many issues the RV industry at large should improve upon significantly but we all know that with current sales being what they are we're more likely to see a squadron of flying pigs than meaningful improvement in the RV manufacturing industry. 🙂
May-06-2016 06:03 AM
ReneeG wrote:
edatlanta - that will be our next big purchase, an RV Flex Armor roof. It will be worth it to us as we plan on keeping our 5W.
May-06-2016 06:02 AM
SoundGuy wrote:edatlanta wrote:
I had a EPDM roof that was properly maintained, not damaged, caulked frequently, etc. and at 5 years service the membrane started failing. Moisture was leaking through the membrane. This is obviously an expensive issue and the 12 year rubber roof warranty that all manufacturers advertise is totally worthless. Try to make a claim and see how far that gets you.
A misstatement of fact. The 12 yr roof warranty is on the membrane itself, not the trailer roof, and is not offered by "all manufacturers" but rather by the membrane manufacturer which in the majority of cases will be Alpha Systems. If your rubber roof membrane was thinning to the point where it was leaking before the 12 yr mark any claim would have had to have been made to the manufacturer of the membrane.
May-03-2016 06:38 PM
May-03-2016 06:37 PM
edatlanta wrote:Bumpyroad wrote:gat75 wrote:
I think you will find that there are practically nothing but TTs with rubber roofs available. Fiberglass would be more durable, you just gonna have a hard time finding fiberglass on anything but MH roof.
lots of small TTs with fiberglass roofs. I wouldn't have another rubber one myself.
bumpy
I was getting ready to make this exact same statement Bumpy, but you beat me to it.
I had a EPDM roof that was properly maintained, not damaged, caulked frequently, etc. and at 5 years service the membrane started failing. Moisture was leaking through the membrane. This is obviously an expensive issue and the 12 year rubber roof warranty that all manufacturers advertise is totally worthless. Try to make a claim and see how far that gets you.
I had my rubber roof replaced with RV Flex Armor (rvroof.com). I will never ever have another rubber roof other than the length of time it takes to take delivery and take it to a rvroof.com install facility.
And now I can even hear the television when it is raining due to the thickness of the RV Flex Armor material.
May-03-2016 03:29 PM
May-03-2016 03:05 PM
SoundGuy wrote:
Incorrect - it was Jayco which had serious issues for specific model years with their version of TPO roof membrane. KZ never had any issues and as a result neither did I in 6 yrs we owned our 2008 KZ Spree ... wouldn't have any hesitation whatsoever recommending a used KZ to anyone. :B
May-03-2016 02:39 PM
myredracer wrote:
I understand one downside to TPO can be the felt-like backing and if moisture gets to the underside of the TPO and trapped, it can damage the roof deck.
Bumpyroad wrote:
I believe it was KZ that used that felt backed TPO so that is one thing to worry about if you are buying an older kz.
May-03-2016 02:03 PM
May-03-2016 01:35 PM
myredracer wrote:
I understand one downside to TPO can be the felt-like backing and if moisture gets to the underside of the TPO and trapped, it can damage the roof deck.
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