EXPIRED PASSPORT NORTHBOUND

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Quote U.S. Customs, Special Agent...

"We could care less if the passport is expired. All we're interested in is proof that you are a US citizen"

Live & Learn Dept...

[sonora]

MM49 wrote:

mexicoruss wrote:

paulcardoza wrote:
The issue is - WHERE DOES IT END? Rules state you must carry a valid US Passport to re-enter the country. If yours expired one day ago or 5 years ago, why should you get a pass around the rules? Who decides what is reasonable and what is not? You? :R

Bumpyroad wrote:

paulcardoza wrote:
so much for heightened security......... :h

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Quote U.S. Customs, Special Agent...

"We could care less if the passport is expired. All we're interested in is proof that you are a US citizen"

Live & Learn Dept...

why the worry? Just because my passport expired yesterday it does not affect my citizenship today. I thought it was foolish not to accept one. what is the issue?
bumpy

As a USA citizen you will be allowed to reenter your country of origin with or without papers to prove it. This is a guarantee in the US Constitution. If that was not the case what would happen if you were in Europe and got your passport stolen? Would you then have to live in Europe for the rest of your life because you don't have the proper papers to reenter the USA?

I cross the USA border regularly from Mexico, sometimes I have my passport sometimes not. They will ask for my drivers license and my SS number and in a few clicks on the computer they determine who I am and in I go. This having to carry a birthright is ridiculous and out dated in my opinion.

Very bad information. My passport is out for visa work. I checked at US immigrations to see if I could enter back into US with a birth certificate or a copy of the passport. They said yes with a large fine and a day in the immigration office.
MM49

Ehh.....In this age of Obama haven't we have learned that laws are not always laws.

[MM49]

mexicoruss wrote:

paulcardoza wrote:
The issue is - WHERE DOES IT END? Rules state you must carry a valid US Passport to re-enter the country. If yours expired one day ago or 5 years ago, why should you get a pass around the rules? Who decides what is reasonable and what is not? You? :R

Bumpyroad wrote:

paulcardoza wrote:
so much for heightened security......... :h

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Quote U.S. Customs, Special Agent...

"We could care less if the passport is expired. All we're interested in is proof that you are a US citizen"

Live & Learn Dept...

why the worry? Just because my passport expired yesterday it does not affect my citizenship today. I thought it was foolish not to accept one. what is the issue?
bumpy

As a USA citizen you will be allowed to reenter your country of origin with or without papers to prove it. This is a guarantee in the US Constitution. If that was not the case what would happen if you were in Europe and got your passport stolen? Would you then have to live in Europe for the rest of your life because you don't have the proper papers to reenter the USA?

I cross the USA border regularly from Mexico, sometimes I have my passport sometimes not. They will ask for my drivers license and my SS number and in a few clicks on the computer they determine who I am and in I go. This having to carry a birthright is ridiculous and out dated in my opinion.

Very bad information. My passport is out for visa work. I checked at US immigrations to see if I could enter back into US with a birth certificate or a copy of the passport. They said yes with a large fine and a day in the immigration office.
MM49

[Talleyho69]

The "special" drivers license is called a Passport Card, only good for land or cruise ship entries. Costs about $40, and makes returning at Tijuana fast. Well worth the money!

[mexicoruss]

paulcardoza wrote:
The issue is - WHERE DOES IT END? Rules state you must carry a valid US Passport to re-enter the country. If yours expired one day ago or 5 years ago, why should you get a pass around the rules? Who decides what is reasonable and what is not? You? :R

Bumpyroad wrote:

paulcardoza wrote:
so much for heightened security......... :h

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Quote U.S. Customs, Special Agent...

"We could care less if the passport is expired. All we're interested in is proof that you are a US citizen"

Live & Learn Dept...

why the worry? Just because my passport expired yesterday it does not affect my citizenship today. I thought it was foolish not to accept one. what is the issue?
bumpy

As a USA citizen you will be allowed to reenter your country of origin with or without papers to prove it. This is a guarantee in the US Constitution. If that was not the case what would happen if you were in Europe and got your passport stolen? Would you then have to live in Europe for the rest of your life because you don't have the proper papers to reenter the USA?

I cross the USA border regularly from Mexico, sometimes I have my passport sometimes not. They will ask for my drivers license and my SS number and in a few clicks on the computer they determine who I am and in I go. This having to carry a birthright is ridiculous and out dated in my opinion.

[paulcardoza]

The issue is - WHERE DOES IT END? Rules state you must carry a valid US Passport to re-enter the country. If yours expired one day ago or 5 years ago, why should you get a pass around the rules? Who decides what is reasonable and what is not? You? :R

Bumpyroad wrote:

paulcardoza wrote:
so much for heightened security......... :h

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Quote U.S. Customs, Special Agent...

"We could care less if the passport is expired. All we're interested in is proof that you are a US citizen"

Live & Learn Dept...

why the worry? Just because my passport expired yesterday it does not affect my citizenship today. I thought it was foolish not to accept one. what is the issue?
bumpy

[pigman1]

For those who aren't worried, the procedure for reentering from Canada was either a regular passport or one of their special shorter documents (I believe one is a very special driver's license). If you didn't have that the border agent could send you to a US Consulate office where THEY would determine your citizenship. You'll get in, but is it worth the gamble of time and effort?

Of course with the garbage going on at our southern border and with the Prez, who knows?

[Turtle-Toad]

Dakota98 wrote:
Any major CC & a registered voter card should work ? :B :h :R

Should work for what? It definitely will not get you back across the border! And it won't get you a passport either. I almost missed my ship down in Rio de Janeiro because I couldn't come up with a birth certificate. The U.S. State Department wouldn't even accept my military ID even though the US Code clearly states that, for an officer or CWO in the Navy or Coast Guard, all that was needed for proof of citizenship was an active duty military I.D. When I confronted them with their own rules they just shrugged it off with the statement "well that's not the way we do business".

[kca87]

In Florida you can use your passport as a proof of ID to renew your driver's license.

How do you prove your ID to get a passport? You can show them your driver's license.

HUH?????

When applying for a passport the first time, you need a certified copy of your birth certificate. When you renew, you just need your passport that is expiring.

[Bumpyroad]

paulcardoza wrote:
so much for heightened security......... :h

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Quote U.S. Customs, Special Agent...

"We could care less if the passport is expired. All we're interested in is proof that you are a US citizen"

Live & Learn Dept...

why the worry? Just because my passport expired yesterday it does not affect my citizenship today. I thought it was foolish not to accept one. what is the issue?
bumpy

[dewey02]

Lately, I don't think they are even concerned if you are a US citizen...c'mon in! 🙂

[paulcardoza]

so much for heightened security......... :h

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Quote U.S. Customs, Special Agent...

"We could care less if the passport is expired. All we're interested in is proof that you are a US citizen"

Live & Learn Dept...

[MEXICOWANDERER]

I had to show driver's license AND official certified copy of country birth certificate to get my passport

[Dakota98]

Any major CC & a registered voter card should work ? :B :h :R

[pigman1]

Dog Folks wrote:
In Florida you can use your passport as a proof of ID to renew your driver's license.

How do you prove your ID to get a passport? You can show them your driver's license.

HUH?????

???? Interesting. I had to furnish a certified copy of my birth certificate. Must be a different USA

[Dog_Folks]

In Florida you can use your passport as a proof of ID to renew your driver's license.

How do you prove your ID to get a passport? You can show them your driver's license.

HUH?????