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โAug-08-2016 01:49 PM
After a lot of research and reading on this I contacted Banjercito and rec'd the following response:
"REGARDING YOUR EMAIL,
THE LAW SINCE NOVEMBER 2015, WAS WRITTEN BY ADUANAS AN STATES THAT VEHICLES WITH A GVWR OF UP TO 3.5 TONS OR 7,716 LBS CAN ENTER THE COUNTRY WITH A TEMPORARY IMPORT PERMIT FROM BANJERCITO, IF THE VEHICLE EXCEEDS THAT WEIGHT BASED ON THE GVWR SPECIFIED BY THE MAKER OF THE VEHICLE, IT MAY NOT BE IMPORTED THROUGH A TEMPORARY IMPORT PERMIT.
FUTHERMORE, WEยดD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT BANJERCITO MUST FOLLOW THE LAW.
IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUES OR QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT ADUANAS SAT TO VOICE YOUR CONCERNS 1877 44 88 728 OPTIONS 7,2,2,1,1 OR CIITEV_ADUANAMEXICO@SAT.GOB.MX."
I then phoned Aduana and spoke to a fellow who identified himself as a Supervisor in the Vehicle Import area. He told me they are very aware of the situation as they are getting numerous complaints from RVers who are being refused TIPs at the border. He explained that it is NOT their intention to prohibit pickups over 7716 lbs as long as they are for personal, not commercial, use. He said the rules are being misinterpreted by the border people ( Banjercito) and we had a good discussion about GVWR and "cargo capacity". He gave me an email address and asked me to send photos and details of my vehicle to them to examine, and he said they will send back instructions on what to do to avoid getting a hassle at the border.
I then sent an email to the Aduana email address he gave me and included photos of my 1 ton pickup as well as a photo of my doorpost sticker showing my GVWR of 11,600#. I asked if I could get a TIP and if there was anything special I needed to do. Here is a translation of the response I received from Aduana:
"Good afternoon, you do not need to submit any type of document issued by us, if you like you can submit this email, however you will not have any problem at the time you request your permission for temporary importation, once the staff of the Customs Office has made a physical inspection of your vehicle and verify that it is a vehicle for the transport of passengers and not a vehicle for cargo transportation, unfortunately this procedure only can be done in the CIITEV modules at the border and not by internet."
No doubt there will still be some people who will experience problems at the border BUT it is clear from Aduana (and they are the ones who make the rules) that private non-commercial pickups CAN be issued a TIP even if they are over the 7,716# limit. It may take some arguing in some cases but stick with it and we should all be OK.
"REGARDING YOUR EMAIL,
THE LAW SINCE NOVEMBER 2015, WAS WRITTEN BY ADUANAS AN STATES THAT VEHICLES WITH A GVWR OF UP TO 3.5 TONS OR 7,716 LBS CAN ENTER THE COUNTRY WITH A TEMPORARY IMPORT PERMIT FROM BANJERCITO, IF THE VEHICLE EXCEEDS THAT WEIGHT BASED ON THE GVWR SPECIFIED BY THE MAKER OF THE VEHICLE, IT MAY NOT BE IMPORTED THROUGH A TEMPORARY IMPORT PERMIT.
FUTHERMORE, WEยดD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT BANJERCITO MUST FOLLOW THE LAW.
IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUES OR QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT ADUANAS SAT TO VOICE YOUR CONCERNS 1877 44 88 728 OPTIONS 7,2,2,1,1 OR CIITEV_ADUANAMEXICO@SAT.GOB.MX."
I then phoned Aduana and spoke to a fellow who identified himself as a Supervisor in the Vehicle Import area. He told me they are very aware of the situation as they are getting numerous complaints from RVers who are being refused TIPs at the border. He explained that it is NOT their intention to prohibit pickups over 7716 lbs as long as they are for personal, not commercial, use. He said the rules are being misinterpreted by the border people ( Banjercito) and we had a good discussion about GVWR and "cargo capacity". He gave me an email address and asked me to send photos and details of my vehicle to them to examine, and he said they will send back instructions on what to do to avoid getting a hassle at the border.
I then sent an email to the Aduana email address he gave me and included photos of my 1 ton pickup as well as a photo of my doorpost sticker showing my GVWR of 11,600#. I asked if I could get a TIP and if there was anything special I needed to do. Here is a translation of the response I received from Aduana:
"Good afternoon, you do not need to submit any type of document issued by us, if you like you can submit this email, however you will not have any problem at the time you request your permission for temporary importation, once the staff of the Customs Office has made a physical inspection of your vehicle and verify that it is a vehicle for the transport of passengers and not a vehicle for cargo transportation, unfortunately this procedure only can be done in the CIITEV modules at the border and not by internet."
No doubt there will still be some people who will experience problems at the border BUT it is clear from Aduana (and they are the ones who make the rules) that private non-commercial pickups CAN be issued a TIP even if they are over the 7,716# limit. It may take some arguing in some cases but stick with it and we should all be OK.
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โAug-10-2016 01:31 PM
I found the website where the Spanish document about weight can be found. I used Google Translate to translate to English. I found another website that further defines this. I did a Copy & Paste of all of it with translation by Google. Maybe you can save this in case you need to get into a discussion at the border.
A suggestion - learn about your vehicle and go to a truck stop with a CAT scale and have it weighed with a certified weight. This will not only provide you with documentation of your entire vehicle but you might find out if you are safe or not - have you exceeded the limits?
Especificaciones del peso bruto del vehรญculo
http://www.ehowenespanol.com/especificaciones-del-peso-bruto-del-vehiculo-lista_177374/
El peso bruto del vehรญculo o GVWR (en inglรฉs, Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), es la clasificaciรณn del peso de un vehรญculo. รste se refiere al peso mรกximo admisible que el vehรญculo puede llevar, incluido รฉste mismo. El GVWR difiere del modelo y del ajuste de un vehรญculo y se verรก afectado por el equipo y funciones aรฑadidas o si cuenta con cuatro o dos puertas, por ejemplo. Las especificaciones GVWR son establecidas por el fabricante y son individuales para el peso exacto, modelo, aรฑo de ajuste y vehรญculo.
The gross vehicle weight or GVWR (in English, Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) is the classification of the weight of a vehicle. This refers to the maximum allowable weight that the vehicle can carry, including this one. The GVWR differs from the model and trim of a vehicle and will be affected by the computer and added features or if you have four or two doors, for example. The GVWR specifications are set by the manufacturer and are individual to the exact weight, model, year and vehicle adjustment.
Definiciรณn de GVWR
El GVWR es el peso mรกximo admisible del vehรญculo. Se compone del peso en vacรญo del vehรญculo, el nรบmero especificado de pasajeros que el vehรญculo estรก concebido para llevar y la capacidad de carga del vehรญculo.
Definition of GVWR
The GVWR is the maximum allowable weight of the vehicle. Consists of the empty weight of the vehicle, the specified number of passengers the vehicle is designed to carry and load capacity of the vehicle.
El peso en vacรญo de un vehรญculo es el peso del vehรญculo cuando estรก cargado con combustible y el aceite y todo el equipamiento de serie, sin conductor ni pasajeros ni carga aรฑadida. El nรบmero especificado de pasajeros cambia con la disponibilidad de asientos del vehรญculo. Por ejemplo, cinco asientos representan cinco pasajeros incluidos en el peso bruto total. El peso en vacรญo refiere a las condiciones normales de funcionamiento del vehรญculo cuando no se aรฑade el peso de la carga.
The empty weight of a vehicle is the weight of the vehicle when loaded with fuel and oil and all standard equipment without driver or passengers or cargo added. The specified number of passengers change with the availability of seats of the vehicle. For example, five seats represent five passengers on the GVWR. The curb weight refers to the normal operation of the vehicle when the weight of the load is not added ..
Puedes restar el peso en vacรญo del GVWR para calcular la capacidad de carga รบtil admisible para el vehรญculo, que incluye el peso del conductor y los pasajeros.
You can subtract the empty weight of the GVWR to calculate the allowable payload capacity for the vehicle, including the weight of the driver and passengers.
Motivo del GVWR
Los fabricantes establecen un GVWR para sus vehรญculos con el fin de especificar un lรญmite de funcionamiento seguro del vehรญculo. Excederse del GVWR afectarรก el frenado y la maniobrabilidad del vehรญculo, y es riesgoso. El GVWR dependerรก de la capacidad estructural del vehรญculo.
Reason GVWR
Manufacturers establish a GVWR for their vehicles in order to specify a limit of safe vehicle operation. It exceeded the GVWR affect braking and vehicle handling, and is risky. The GVWR depend on the structural capacity of the vehicle.
Ejemplos
El GVWR depende del peso de un vehรญculo y la cantidad de carga que estรก diseรฑada para llevar, y son mรกs comรบnmente disponibles como especificaciones de carga o vehรญculos tractores. Los vehรญculos deportivos, por lo general tienen menos peso bruto total que una camioneta grande, por ejemplo, y los camiones grandes tienen un peso bruto superior a una camioneta.
Examples
The GVWR depends on the weight of a vehicle and the amount of charge that is designed to carry, and are most commonly available as load specifications or towing vehicles. Sports cars usually have less GVWR a large truck, for example, and large trucks are larger than a pickup truck gross weight.
Por ejemplo, el sitio web del Departamento de Economรญa del Combustible de los EE.UU. separa los vehรญculos en las clases segรบn su peso bruto total. Los SUV, pickups pequeรฑas y medianas, minivans y camionetas de carga de menos o igual a 8.500 libras (3855,5 kg) GVWR son de categorรญa uno. En la categorรญa dos estรกn las camionetas y furgonetas de mรกs de 115 pulgadas (292 cm) de distancia entre ejes y que tengan un peso bruto inferior o igual a 8.500 libras (3.855,5 kg).
For example, the website of the Department of Fuel Economy US separates vehicles in classes according to their total gross weight. SUVs, pickups small and medium, minivans and pickup trucks of less than or equal to 8,500 pounds (3855.5 kg) GVWR are category one. In category two trucks and vans are more than 115 inches (292 cm) wheelbase and have a lower or equal to 8,500 pounds (3855.5 kg) gross weight.
La categorรญa tres incluye camionetas, camiones y furgonetas de entre 8.500 libras (3.855,5 kg) y 10.000 (4.536 kg). Los vehรญculos de pasajeros pueden tener menos de 6.000 libras (2.721,5 kg) en peso bruto total.
The three category includes vans, trucks and vans between 8,500 pounds (3855.5 kg) and 10,000 (4,536 kg). Passenger vehicles may have less than 6,000 pounds (2721.5 kg) GVWR.
Encontrar el GVWR
El peso bruto de un vehรญculo se encuentra comรบnmente en la etiqueta de certificaciรณn estรกndar que se fija al bastidor o el borde de la puerta del conductor. Tambiรฉn se puede encontrar en el manual del vehรญculo, el sitio web del fabricante o en los sitios web de especificaciones tรฉcnicas, como Edmunds o Cars Direct.
Find the GVWR
The gross weight of a vehicle is commonly found in standard certification label that is attached to the frame or edge of the driver's door. It can also be found in the vehicle handbook, the manufacturer's website or on the websites of technical specifications, as Edmunds or Cars Direct.
http://www.ehowenespanol.com/determinar-peso-bruto-vehiculo-como_57519/
Cรณmo determinar el peso bruto de un vehรญculo
How to determine the gross weight of a vehicle
Conocer el peso bruto de tu vehรญculo (GVW, por sus siglas en inglรฉs) puede ser muy importante. Muchos puentes estรกn hechos para vehรญculos de un peso determinado y si tu automรณvil o camiรณn lo excede, es conveniente que pienses en tomar otra ruta. Ademรกs, esta informaciรณn no siempre es fรกcil de obtener. Muy pocas personas tienen acceso a una bรกscula con la que puedan pesar sus vehรญculos. Pero con un poco de ingenio, puedes tener una buena nociรณn del peso bruto de tu vehรญculo.
Knowing your vehicle gross weight (GVW, for its acronym in English) can be very important. Many bridges are made for vehicles of a certain weight and if your car or truck exceeds it, it is convenient to think about taking another route. In addition, this information is not always easy to obtain. Very few people have access to a scale you can weigh their vehicles. But with a little ingenuity, you can have a good idea of the gross weight of your vehicle.
Instrucciones
instructions
1
Determina el peso de tu automรณvil o camiรณn por sus caracterรญsticas. Si solo quieres una cifra estimada, puedes considerar que un automรณvil compacto pesa alrededor de 4.000 libras (1.800 kilogramos); un automรณvil mediano pesa alrededor de 5.000 libras (2.250 kilogramos); los camiones livianos, los minivan y los SUV tienen un peso de aproximadamente 6.000 o 7.000 libras (2.700 o 3.150 kilogramos); los camiones pesados pueden llegar a pesar 12.000 libras (5.400 kilogramos). Para hallar la cifra exacta, haz una bรบsqueda por internet de la marca y modelo de tu vehรญculo y busca una hoja con las caracterรญsticas especรญficas de tu automรณvil. El peso del vehรญculo estarรก en algรบn lugar escondido entre todas las especificaciones, pero seguro que estarรก allรญ.
Determine the weight of your car or truck for their characteristics. If you just want an estimated figure, you can consider a compact car weighs about 4,000 pounds (1,800 kilograms); a medium-sized car weighs about 5,000 pounds (2,250 kilograms); light trucks, minivans and SUVs have a weight of about 6,000 or 7,000 pounds (2,700 kilograms or 3,150); heavy trucks can weigh 12,000 pounds (5,400 kilograms). To find the exact figure, internet search by brand and model of your vehicle and find a sheet with the specific characteristics of your car. Vehicle weight will be in some hidden place among all specifications, but it sure will be there.
2
Pesa la carga que llevas. Esto no deberรญa ser una gran preocupaciรณn para el conductor promedio, pero si llevas muchas cosas, por ejemplo, en la parte de atrรกs de tu camioneta, intenta determinar el peso de estos elementos adicionales.
Weighs the burden you carry. This should not be a major concern for the average driver, but if you bring many things, for example, in the back of your truck, trying to determine the weight of these additional elements.
Calcula el peso total de los pasajeros. Un hombre de contextura promedio pesa aproximadamente 200 libras (90 kilogramos) y una mujer, 130 libras (58,5 kilogramos), pero si precisas exactitud, pregunta a tus pasajeros cuรกnto pesan, o pรฉsalos en una bรกscula de baรฑo.
Calculate the total weight of the passengers. A man of average body weighs about 200 pounds (90 kilograms) and a woman, 130 pounds (58.5 kilograms), but if precise accuracy, ask your passengers how much they weigh, or Shall they escape on a bathroom scale.
Suma el peso del vehรญculo, la carga y los pasajeros. El resultado total es el peso bruto de tu vehรญculo.
Add the weight of the vehicle, cargo and passengers. The overall result is the gross weight of your vehicle.
A suggestion - learn about your vehicle and go to a truck stop with a CAT scale and have it weighed with a certified weight. This will not only provide you with documentation of your entire vehicle but you might find out if you are safe or not - have you exceeded the limits?
Especificaciones del peso bruto del vehรญculo
http://www.ehowenespanol.com/especificaciones-del-peso-bruto-del-vehiculo-lista_177374/
El peso bruto del vehรญculo o GVWR (en inglรฉs, Gross Vehicle Weight Rating), es la clasificaciรณn del peso de un vehรญculo. รste se refiere al peso mรกximo admisible que el vehรญculo puede llevar, incluido รฉste mismo. El GVWR difiere del modelo y del ajuste de un vehรญculo y se verรก afectado por el equipo y funciones aรฑadidas o si cuenta con cuatro o dos puertas, por ejemplo. Las especificaciones GVWR son establecidas por el fabricante y son individuales para el peso exacto, modelo, aรฑo de ajuste y vehรญculo.
The gross vehicle weight or GVWR (in English, Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) is the classification of the weight of a vehicle. This refers to the maximum allowable weight that the vehicle can carry, including this one. The GVWR differs from the model and trim of a vehicle and will be affected by the computer and added features or if you have four or two doors, for example. The GVWR specifications are set by the manufacturer and are individual to the exact weight, model, year and vehicle adjustment.
Definiciรณn de GVWR
El GVWR es el peso mรกximo admisible del vehรญculo. Se compone del peso en vacรญo del vehรญculo, el nรบmero especificado de pasajeros que el vehรญculo estรก concebido para llevar y la capacidad de carga del vehรญculo.
Definition of GVWR
The GVWR is the maximum allowable weight of the vehicle. Consists of the empty weight of the vehicle, the specified number of passengers the vehicle is designed to carry and load capacity of the vehicle.
El peso en vacรญo de un vehรญculo es el peso del vehรญculo cuando estรก cargado con combustible y el aceite y todo el equipamiento de serie, sin conductor ni pasajeros ni carga aรฑadida. El nรบmero especificado de pasajeros cambia con la disponibilidad de asientos del vehรญculo. Por ejemplo, cinco asientos representan cinco pasajeros incluidos en el peso bruto total. El peso en vacรญo refiere a las condiciones normales de funcionamiento del vehรญculo cuando no se aรฑade el peso de la carga.
The empty weight of a vehicle is the weight of the vehicle when loaded with fuel and oil and all standard equipment without driver or passengers or cargo added. The specified number of passengers change with the availability of seats of the vehicle. For example, five seats represent five passengers on the GVWR. The curb weight refers to the normal operation of the vehicle when the weight of the load is not added ..
Puedes restar el peso en vacรญo del GVWR para calcular la capacidad de carga รบtil admisible para el vehรญculo, que incluye el peso del conductor y los pasajeros.
You can subtract the empty weight of the GVWR to calculate the allowable payload capacity for the vehicle, including the weight of the driver and passengers.
Motivo del GVWR
Los fabricantes establecen un GVWR para sus vehรญculos con el fin de especificar un lรญmite de funcionamiento seguro del vehรญculo. Excederse del GVWR afectarรก el frenado y la maniobrabilidad del vehรญculo, y es riesgoso. El GVWR dependerรก de la capacidad estructural del vehรญculo.
Reason GVWR
Manufacturers establish a GVWR for their vehicles in order to specify a limit of safe vehicle operation. It exceeded the GVWR affect braking and vehicle handling, and is risky. The GVWR depend on the structural capacity of the vehicle.
Ejemplos
El GVWR depende del peso de un vehรญculo y la cantidad de carga que estรก diseรฑada para llevar, y son mรกs comรบnmente disponibles como especificaciones de carga o vehรญculos tractores. Los vehรญculos deportivos, por lo general tienen menos peso bruto total que una camioneta grande, por ejemplo, y los camiones grandes tienen un peso bruto superior a una camioneta.
Examples
The GVWR depends on the weight of a vehicle and the amount of charge that is designed to carry, and are most commonly available as load specifications or towing vehicles. Sports cars usually have less GVWR a large truck, for example, and large trucks are larger than a pickup truck gross weight.
Por ejemplo, el sitio web del Departamento de Economรญa del Combustible de los EE.UU. separa los vehรญculos en las clases segรบn su peso bruto total. Los SUV, pickups pequeรฑas y medianas, minivans y camionetas de carga de menos o igual a 8.500 libras (3855,5 kg) GVWR son de categorรญa uno. En la categorรญa dos estรกn las camionetas y furgonetas de mรกs de 115 pulgadas (292 cm) de distancia entre ejes y que tengan un peso bruto inferior o igual a 8.500 libras (3.855,5 kg).
For example, the website of the Department of Fuel Economy US separates vehicles in classes according to their total gross weight. SUVs, pickups small and medium, minivans and pickup trucks of less than or equal to 8,500 pounds (3855.5 kg) GVWR are category one. In category two trucks and vans are more than 115 inches (292 cm) wheelbase and have a lower or equal to 8,500 pounds (3855.5 kg) gross weight.
La categorรญa tres incluye camionetas, camiones y furgonetas de entre 8.500 libras (3.855,5 kg) y 10.000 (4.536 kg). Los vehรญculos de pasajeros pueden tener menos de 6.000 libras (2.721,5 kg) en peso bruto total.
The three category includes vans, trucks and vans between 8,500 pounds (3855.5 kg) and 10,000 (4,536 kg). Passenger vehicles may have less than 6,000 pounds (2721.5 kg) GVWR.
Encontrar el GVWR
El peso bruto de un vehรญculo se encuentra comรบnmente en la etiqueta de certificaciรณn estรกndar que se fija al bastidor o el borde de la puerta del conductor. Tambiรฉn se puede encontrar en el manual del vehรญculo, el sitio web del fabricante o en los sitios web de especificaciones tรฉcnicas, como Edmunds o Cars Direct.
Find the GVWR
The gross weight of a vehicle is commonly found in standard certification label that is attached to the frame or edge of the driver's door. It can also be found in the vehicle handbook, the manufacturer's website or on the websites of technical specifications, as Edmunds or Cars Direct.
http://www.ehowenespanol.com/determinar-peso-bruto-vehiculo-como_57519/
Cรณmo determinar el peso bruto de un vehรญculo
How to determine the gross weight of a vehicle
Conocer el peso bruto de tu vehรญculo (GVW, por sus siglas en inglรฉs) puede ser muy importante. Muchos puentes estรกn hechos para vehรญculos de un peso determinado y si tu automรณvil o camiรณn lo excede, es conveniente que pienses en tomar otra ruta. Ademรกs, esta informaciรณn no siempre es fรกcil de obtener. Muy pocas personas tienen acceso a una bรกscula con la que puedan pesar sus vehรญculos. Pero con un poco de ingenio, puedes tener una buena nociรณn del peso bruto de tu vehรญculo.
Knowing your vehicle gross weight (GVW, for its acronym in English) can be very important. Many bridges are made for vehicles of a certain weight and if your car or truck exceeds it, it is convenient to think about taking another route. In addition, this information is not always easy to obtain. Very few people have access to a scale you can weigh their vehicles. But with a little ingenuity, you can have a good idea of the gross weight of your vehicle.
Instrucciones
instructions
1
Determina el peso de tu automรณvil o camiรณn por sus caracterรญsticas. Si solo quieres una cifra estimada, puedes considerar que un automรณvil compacto pesa alrededor de 4.000 libras (1.800 kilogramos); un automรณvil mediano pesa alrededor de 5.000 libras (2.250 kilogramos); los camiones livianos, los minivan y los SUV tienen un peso de aproximadamente 6.000 o 7.000 libras (2.700 o 3.150 kilogramos); los camiones pesados pueden llegar a pesar 12.000 libras (5.400 kilogramos). Para hallar la cifra exacta, haz una bรบsqueda por internet de la marca y modelo de tu vehรญculo y busca una hoja con las caracterรญsticas especรญficas de tu automรณvil. El peso del vehรญculo estarรก en algรบn lugar escondido entre todas las especificaciones, pero seguro que estarรก allรญ.
Determine the weight of your car or truck for their characteristics. If you just want an estimated figure, you can consider a compact car weighs about 4,000 pounds (1,800 kilograms); a medium-sized car weighs about 5,000 pounds (2,250 kilograms); light trucks, minivans and SUVs have a weight of about 6,000 or 7,000 pounds (2,700 kilograms or 3,150); heavy trucks can weigh 12,000 pounds (5,400 kilograms). To find the exact figure, internet search by brand and model of your vehicle and find a sheet with the specific characteristics of your car. Vehicle weight will be in some hidden place among all specifications, but it sure will be there.
2
Pesa la carga que llevas. Esto no deberรญa ser una gran preocupaciรณn para el conductor promedio, pero si llevas muchas cosas, por ejemplo, en la parte de atrรกs de tu camioneta, intenta determinar el peso de estos elementos adicionales.
Weighs the burden you carry. This should not be a major concern for the average driver, but if you bring many things, for example, in the back of your truck, trying to determine the weight of these additional elements.
Calcula el peso total de los pasajeros. Un hombre de contextura promedio pesa aproximadamente 200 libras (90 kilogramos) y una mujer, 130 libras (58,5 kilogramos), pero si precisas exactitud, pregunta a tus pasajeros cuรกnto pesan, o pรฉsalos en una bรกscula de baรฑo.
Calculate the total weight of the passengers. A man of average body weighs about 200 pounds (90 kilograms) and a woman, 130 pounds (58.5 kilograms), but if precise accuracy, ask your passengers how much they weigh, or Shall they escape on a bathroom scale.
Suma el peso del vehรญculo, la carga y los pasajeros. El resultado total es el peso bruto de tu vehรญculo.
Add the weight of the vehicle, cargo and passengers. The overall result is the gross weight of your vehicle.
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โAug-10-2016 08:52 AM
If anyone needs it, I have the definitions in spanish at http://www.mexicocaravan.com/permits/GVWSpanish.pdf
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โAug-10-2016 08:28 AM
I don't know if Mexico has specific weight abbreviations or terms. It could help to define some of these terms and to know what they mean in Mexico. Here is some stuff I found online about weight terms in the US........
CURB WEIGHT means the actual or the manufacturerโs estimated weight of the vehicle in operational status with all standard equipment, and weight of fuel at nominal tank capacity, and the weight of optional equipment computed in accordance with incomplete light-duty trucks shall have the curb weight specified by the manufacturer.
UNLADEN MASS depends on the manufacturer and can be the same as curb weight, however it is often the total mass of the car without a driver, fluid or any additional equipment.
A car's GROSS WEIGHT is its curb weight plus the weight of its driver, passengers, and cargo. A car's gross vehicle weight rating (abbreviated GVWR, but often confusingly listed as just gross weight) is the manufacturer's recommended maximum loaded weight. The vehicle's maximum load is the GVWR minus the curb weight.
GVW Gross Vehicle Weight
GVWR Gross Vehicle Weight Rating The gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), or gross vehicle mass (GVM) is the maximum operating weight/mass of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer[1] including the vehicle's chassis, body, engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers and cargo but excluding that of any trailers.[2] The term is used for motor vehicles and trains.
The weight of a vehicle is influenced by passengers, cargo, even fuel level, so a number of terms are used to express the weight of a vehicle in a designated state. Gross combined weight rating refers to the total mass of a vehicle, including all trailers.
GVWR and GCWR both describe a vehicle that is in operation and are used to specify weight limitations and restrictions. Curb weight describes a vehicle which is "parked at the curb" and excludes the weight of any occupants or cargo. Dry weight further excludes the weight of all consumables, such as fuel and oils. Gross trailer weight rating specifies the maximum weight of a trailer and the gross axle weight rating specifies the maximum weight on any particular axle.
GCWR Gross Combination Weight Rating The gross combined weight rating or gross combination weight rating (GCWR), also referred to as the gross combination mass (GCM), gross train weight (GTW), or maximum authorised mass (MAM), is the maximum allowable combined mass of a road vehicle, the passengers and cargo in the tow vehicle, plus the mass of the trailer and cargo in the trailer. This rating is set by the vehicle manufacturer.
The GCWR is a function of the torque output of the engine, the capacity and ratios of the transmission, the capacity of the driving axles and tyres, the capacity of the radiator, and the ability of the chassis to withstand that powertrain torque.
GAWR The Gross Axle Weight Rating is the maximum distributed weight that may be supported by an axle of a road vehicle. Typically, GAWR is followed by either the letters FR or RR, which indicate front or rear axles respectively.
CURB WEIGHT means the actual or the manufacturerโs estimated weight of the vehicle in operational status with all standard equipment, and weight of fuel at nominal tank capacity, and the weight of optional equipment computed in accordance with incomplete light-duty trucks shall have the curb weight specified by the manufacturer.
UNLADEN MASS depends on the manufacturer and can be the same as curb weight, however it is often the total mass of the car without a driver, fluid or any additional equipment.
A car's GROSS WEIGHT is its curb weight plus the weight of its driver, passengers, and cargo. A car's gross vehicle weight rating (abbreviated GVWR, but often confusingly listed as just gross weight) is the manufacturer's recommended maximum loaded weight. The vehicle's maximum load is the GVWR minus the curb weight.
GVW Gross Vehicle Weight
GVWR Gross Vehicle Weight Rating The gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), or gross vehicle mass (GVM) is the maximum operating weight/mass of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer[1] including the vehicle's chassis, body, engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers and cargo but excluding that of any trailers.[2] The term is used for motor vehicles and trains.
The weight of a vehicle is influenced by passengers, cargo, even fuel level, so a number of terms are used to express the weight of a vehicle in a designated state. Gross combined weight rating refers to the total mass of a vehicle, including all trailers.
GVWR and GCWR both describe a vehicle that is in operation and are used to specify weight limitations and restrictions. Curb weight describes a vehicle which is "parked at the curb" and excludes the weight of any occupants or cargo. Dry weight further excludes the weight of all consumables, such as fuel and oils. Gross trailer weight rating specifies the maximum weight of a trailer and the gross axle weight rating specifies the maximum weight on any particular axle.
GCWR Gross Combination Weight Rating The gross combined weight rating or gross combination weight rating (GCWR), also referred to as the gross combination mass (GCM), gross train weight (GTW), or maximum authorised mass (MAM), is the maximum allowable combined mass of a road vehicle, the passengers and cargo in the tow vehicle, plus the mass of the trailer and cargo in the trailer. This rating is set by the vehicle manufacturer.
The GCWR is a function of the torque output of the engine, the capacity and ratios of the transmission, the capacity of the driving axles and tyres, the capacity of the radiator, and the ability of the chassis to withstand that powertrain torque.
GAWR The Gross Axle Weight Rating is the maximum distributed weight that may be supported by an axle of a road vehicle. Typically, GAWR is followed by either the letters FR or RR, which indicate front or rear axles respectively.
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โAug-09-2016 05:34 PM
joebedford wrote:
Unfortunately for Ontarioans, 1-ton trucks are licensed as commercial vehicles. Do they look at the registration or do they look at the 5th wheel on the back and the truck's leather interior to decide if it's commercial or not.
In most jurisdictions any pickup is labled as a commercial vehicle, they are in BC as well. However any inspection will show its a passenger vehicle especially with an RV behind it. It may be prudent to get permits on line.
In person if it was in mexico in previous years it may help to have the old cancelation slip to prove it was previously OK.
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โAug-09-2016 05:27 PM
Thank-you, my partner is still dealing with this issue. I am hoping he cna get an official letter.
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โAug-08-2016 04:54 PM
joebedford wrote:
Unfortunately for Ontarioans, 1-ton trucks are licensed as commercial vehicles. Do they look at the registration or do they look at the 5th wheel on the back and the truck's leather interior to decide if it's commercial or not.
The response says "once the staff of the Customs Office has made a physical inspection of your vehicle and verify that it is a vehicle for the transport of passengers and not a vehicle for cargo transportation. It doesn't mention anything about the registration.
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โAug-08-2016 04:26 PM
Unfortunately for Ontarioans, 1-ton trucks are licensed as commercial vehicles. Do they look at the registration or do they look at the 5th wheel on the back and the truck's leather interior to decide if it's commercial or not.
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โAug-08-2016 03:57 PM
Looks good to me! Those with 3/4 ton or more trucks owe you big time!!!! But it needs a signature. There is no name!
Moisheh
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โAug-08-2016 02:27 PM
The response was via email. Here is the Spanish version, exactly as I received it today:
RE: Necesito algo de ayuda
CIITEV_AduanaMexico
12:49 PM
To: xxxxxxx
CIITEV_AduanaMexico@sat.gob.mx
Buenas tardes, no es necesario que tenga que presentar ningรบn tipo de documento expedido por nosotros, si usted gusta puede presentar este correo, sin embargo no tendrรก ningรบn problema al momento de solicitar su permiso de importaciรณn temporal, una vez que personal de la Aduana haya realizado una inspecciรณn fรญsica de su vehรญculo y se compruebe que se trata de un vehรญculo de transporte de pasajeros y no una vehรญculo exclusivamente de transporte de carga, desgraciadamente este procedimiento solamente lo podrรก realizar en los mรณdulos CIITEV de la frontera y no por internet.
Saludos.
RE: Necesito algo de ayuda
CIITEV_AduanaMexico
12:49 PM
To: xxxxxxx
CIITEV_AduanaMexico@sat.gob.mx
Buenas tardes, no es necesario que tenga que presentar ningรบn tipo de documento expedido por nosotros, si usted gusta puede presentar este correo, sin embargo no tendrรก ningรบn problema al momento de solicitar su permiso de importaciรณn temporal, una vez que personal de la Aduana haya realizado una inspecciรณn fรญsica de su vehรญculo y se compruebe que se trata de un vehรญculo de transporte de pasajeros y no una vehรญculo exclusivamente de transporte de carga, desgraciadamente este procedimiento solamente lo podrรก realizar en los mรณdulos CIITEV de la frontera y no por internet.
Saludos.
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โAug-08-2016 02:21 PM
Did they email you that letter or is it on a letterhead? You should post the Spanish version exactly like you received it. Those with 3/4 tons or over could show that to Aduana.
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