For Those With Only Summer To Travel

[noe-place]

We do the majority of our rving June to August when our grandson is out of school so he can take a long trip with us. Any of you follow the same pattern? If so where are you planning to go next summer? We've been to every state in lower 48 (Canada twice) so we're looking for places we haven't been yet that a 12 yr old boy would appreciate. This summer we went to Yellowstone (3rd time) and the boy wants to go back next summer but I told him we could come up with somewhere new so I ask for your opinions.

[MPond]

noe-place wrote:
One said never been the the park while one handn't been since childhood and couldn't understand why I liked Y'stone better. Seems like some folks should have left well enough alone alright.

Those weren't two different people - both of those comments were from me. In fact, they were from the same post.

You seem to think that I "couldn't understand why you liked Yellowstone better", but that's not true. I was interested in your point of view and was asking you to expand on your earlier comments.

But if you want to talk about leaving well enough alone, then you ought to consider not editing old posts and adding rude remarks.

[noe-place]

One said never been the the park while one handn't been since childhood and couldn't understand why I liked Y'stone better. Seems like some folks should have left well enough alone alright.

[MPond]

noe-place wrote:
I care who started the thread.

C'mon, thick skin has nothing to do with expressing feelings and that's what I'm doing. Uh oh, looks like more bad press!:S

Seems kinda back-handed to go back and edit your old post in response to my post that came after it... Why not respond directly? :h

That being said, I have no beef with you. I was genuinely interested in the reasons for your feelings about Glacier vs. Yellowstone, and was disappointed when your chose not to explain them. But now this debate is purely for entertainment value. :B

Either way - no ill will or bad feelings. Have fun out there, and safe travels to you. :C

[noe-place]

MPond wrote:

CORNFED "5-0" wrote:
Noe-Place I noticed that you edited your post from what was there earlier. It is harsher now. Man I have to tell you that nobody cares who started the thread, it is here for us all. MPond was not trying to hijack it, it was dormant for a long time he was just looking for a little information and guidance.. I went back and read every post in this thread and do not see where MPond deserved the rude response you gave. I would think after all your years as a cop you would have thicker skin or with all the bad press cops get you would try to reflect something better.

Thanks, Cornfed. I appreciate that. I try to help people on this forum whenever I can, and I'd hope other would have the same mentality.

I care who started the thread.
I hadn't noticed Noe-Place's edited comments until you pointed them out, but that's funny! :B

C'mon, thick skin has nothing to do with expressing feelings and that's what I'm doing. Uh oh, looks like more bad press!:S

[RoadXYZ]

WoodGlue wrote:
Clicky For The Yellowstone/Glacier Article

All you need to do to really avoid this type of Noro Virus is:

1) Wash your hands with hot soap and water (while you sing the ABC song - then you'll know you've done it the length long enough.) Wash them often.

2) Keep your hands away from rubbing your eyes with your unwashed hands, your nose and your mouth - until you've washed said hands. This is especially hard explaining this to kids.
3) Avoid leafy greens until and unless you've had a chance to wash and rinse them yourself.
4) Wash all vegetables or at least rinse them well before consumption. --{snipped}--
Hope this helps someone!
Here is more specific information about other angles from the CDC:
Noro Virus - Prevention - CDCWoodGlue

I didn't read your CDC post, but some in foreign countries use Chlorox-type liquid added to water in which is washing vegies, etc. AND at one time I would add 1/4 cup Chlorox to my washing dishes water.

[RoadXYZ]

dbbls wrote:
The Black hills in SD has a lot to offer. Mt Rushmore, Crazy Horse memorial, Custer State Park, to mention a few. Also in the area are some caves, and Devils Tower.

Can't remember the name of the rv park, but believe it was a KOA when we went thru the Devils Tower area .. anyway they showed the film "Encounters of the Third Kind" (?) anyway the one ET was in.

It was interesting to look around an area where a movie had been filmed. It is a memory for these Seniors and I am sure a memory for a 12 yr old, whom I wonder if he has seen the movie ..

[WoodGlue]

Clicky For The Yellowstone/Glacier Article

All you need to do to really avoid this type of Noro Virus is:

1) Wash your hands with hot soap and water (while you sing the ABC song - then you'll know you've done it the length long enough.) Wash them often.

2) Keep your hands away from rubbing your eyes with your unwashed hands, your nose and your mouth - until you've washed said hands. This is especially hard explaining this to kids.

3) Avoid leafy greens until and unless you've had a chance to wash and rinse them yourself.

4) Wash all vegetables or at least rinse them well before consumption.

5) Watch cross contamination. Don't cut your chicken up on a cutting board, then immediately cut your veggies. Rinse and spray with a little bleach before hand. Keep your hands washed too,

6) The very dirtiest, most bacteria laden item in your kitchen is either your pot scrubber or dish rag or sponge. Don't use any of these to "wipe off" the kitchen. They're bacteria carnivals. Just use a wet paper towel, or a paper towel with a little 409 sprayed on it to wipe down your kitchen and kitchen counters.

Hope this helps someone!

Here is more specific information about other angles from the CDC:

Noro Virus - Prevention - CDC

WoodGlue

[MPond]

CORNFED "5-0" wrote:
Noe-Place I noticed that you edited your post from what was there earlier. It is harsher now. Man I have to tell you that nobody cares who started the thread, it is here for us all. MPond was not trying to hijack it, it was dormant for a long time he was just looking for a little information and guidance.. I went back and read every post in this thread and do not see where MPond deserved the rude response you gave. I would think after all your years as a cop you would have thicker skin or with all the bad press cops get you would try to reflect something better.

Thanks, Cornfed. I appreciate that. I try to help people on this forum whenever I can, and I'd hope other would have the same mentality.

I hadn't noticed Noe-Place's edited comments until you pointed them out, but that's funny! :B

[CORNFED__5-0_]

Noe-Place I noticed that you edited your post from what was there earlier. It is harsher now. Man I have to tell you that nobody cares who started the thread, it is here for us all. MPond was not trying to hijack it, it was dormant for a long time he was just looking for a little information and guidance.. I went back and read every post in this thread and do not see where MPond deserved the rude response you gave. I would think after all your years as a cop you would have thicker skin or with all the bad press cops get you would try to reflect something better.

[CORNFED__5-0_]

That and I have a fold up fire pit that I had folded and in its case, set under my pin box. Did not think it was a big deal, as it was new and never used. The ranger, at 0230, sure thought so. So I was out there putting it away.....lol. Nothing big or that upsets me (it was my fault) but it never fails, you go out barefoot, "real quick" and find that one sharp stick or rock in the dark. Then you start doing a one foot rain dance, talking in tongues while the little 4'9" female ranger laughs her butt off at you and you wife is shushing you (cause your gonna wake the neighbors up) through the window as she is still in a cozy bed.... Haaaaaa...too funny, true but funny.

Good thing is that someone new arrives every day and if you watch you get to see them do it too. Or do what I have done and had done to me. Bring an old pan with you and set it by your buddy's trailer and watch him do the dance and try to explain to the ranger it is not his. Very funny at 2AM

[noe-place]

MPond wrote:

CORNFED "5-0" wrote:
...If you stay at Fishing Bridge CG be sure to read the rules before you get there. The rules at F.B.C.G. are different then any other C.G. in the park. And if you violate them the ranger will wake you up in the middle of the night and have you correct it. I know, I have had that knock on my door...LOL

Are you referring to the rules about not leaving food & cooking gear outside, or something else?

And be careful where you dump tanks.:D

[MPond]

CORNFED "5-0" wrote:
...If you stay at Fishing Bridge CG be sure to read the rules before you get there. The rules at F.B.C.G. are different then any other C.G. in the park. And if you violate them the ranger will wake you up in the middle of the night and have you correct it. I know, I have had that knock on my door...LOL

Are you referring to the rules about not leaving food & cooking gear outside, or something else?

[CORNFED__5-0_]

http://health.yahoo.net/news/s/nm/virus-sickens-200-at-yellowstone-grand-teton-parks. Just FYI there is a virus making people sick in YS, this is the link. Or you can read it on my post from earlier today.

If you stay at Fishing Bridge CG be sure to read the rules before you get there. The rules at F.B.C.G. are different then any other C.G. in the park. And if you violate them the ranger will wake you up in the middle of the night and have you correct it. I know, I have had that knock on my door...LOL

[MPond]

CORNFED "5-0" wrote:
MPond, how are you today. I am jumping here after reading a few (Not all) of the posts. We liked Glacier NP but we seemed to loose interest in the park very fast, It is a beautiful park and everyone should go there at least one time, The drive and view is "OFF THE HOOK", but we ran out of things that we wanted to do.

In Yellowstone there are so many hikes, trails, views and things to do that we just keep going back every few years. It is ever changing and just seems to draw us back over and over. For me it was being there with my mother, father and brothers in the 60's and 70's. I have pictures of my dad, my brothers and I fishing from Fishing Bridge, it is illegal now. Seeing the park prior to the fires and seeing the park heal its self and the carpet of Pinon Pines and young plant life.

Now with my wife and daughters we try to go every two to four years. The drive out is as much fun as our stay in Yellowstone. We leave California and head to Las Vegas and stay in the Oasis R.V. park and let the kids enjoy the sand beach pools there. Then a short few hour drive to the Cedar City, Utah KOA. A pull thru site for the night and a dip in their pool to rid us of the desert heat. From their, with an early start (On the road by 830), it on to the Pocatello Idaho WallMart and get all our shopping needs for our time in the park. Then we finish the days drive in West Yellowstone, Mt. KOA. We have our campfires and outdoor cooking at these locations.

A few days there seeing the sights of West Yellowstone and the west side of the park then on to Fishing Bridge Campground. The best spot in the park (JMHO) to make a base-camp but no camp fires.

Arrive in the spring or early summer and you will see the animals fresh out of a long winter. You can see the Trout Spawn and so much more. Later in summer and fall you will see the animals getting ready for another long winter. The Deer and Elk go into Rut. You can hear and see the Elk Bugle and try to gather up a harem.

Just too much to list. And as you can see, it is easy to get carried away telling someone why Yellowstone is better then many other places and parks.

JMHO
Cornfed....

Thanks, Cornfed. I appreciate your comments, and I now have a better understanding of your point of view.

Truth is, I don't have an opinion on this one, as I haven't been back to Yellowstone since I was 8 or 9, and I've never been to Glacier.

But this summer we're doing both, and I'm really looking forward to it. I read comments like yours and try to set reasonable expectations.