1st 5th wheel

[Jeff___Claudia]

We just picked up our 1st 5th wheel a Jayco Eagle Premier 351 RLTS . We previously owned 2 Jayco tt's each time moving up.

Shake down cruise is this coming weekend for 5 days.

[RedRam]

FSJPat wrote:
Congratulations on the new rig, sorry the weight police have to jump in and try and rain on your parade.

X2 Sorry for the intruders !.

[RedRam]

FSJPat wrote:
Congratulations on the new rig, sorry the weight police have to jump in and try and rain on your parade.

X2 Sorry for the intruders !.

[kaydeejay]

ol Bombero-JC wrote:
.... Interesting to note that nuts and kd communicate privately - then take their discussion to the OPs thread for a peeing match - without *ALL* the (actual weight) facts...:R
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The only discussion Travelnutz & I had on this topic is that he straightened me out on the rear disc sizes before Paul Clancy posted his comments.
PERIOD!
(SOMEONE is jumping to conclusions here!:R)

[ol_Bombero-JC]

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It's a case of Engineers hoisted by their own petards, ROTFL

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[ol_Bombero-JC]

Old-Biscuit wrote:

kaydeejay wrote:

FSJPat wrote:
Congratulations on the new rig, sorry the weight police have to jump in and try and rain on your parade.

"Rain on your parade" or increase his awareness of just what he is asking his truck to do:?
IMHO 1500# or so over GVWR is beyond "pushing it a little".
My mental, unscientific and totally personal opinion is that up to 500# over GVWR is no big deal - beyond that it really needs another look.
YMMV.

Hey OP:

Post your actual weights and settle this 'at ratings' or 'over'

Post your actual weights and settle and the 'at RANTINGS' will be 'over' - at least until next time..:(
Or - "they" can say, "See, told you so!"

Interesting to note that nuts and kd communicate privately - then take their discussion to the OPs thread for a peeing match - without *ALL* the (actual weight) facts...:R

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[Old-Biscuit]

kaydeejay wrote:

FSJPat wrote:
Congratulations on the new rig, sorry the weight police have to jump in and try and rain on your parade.

"Rain on your parade" or increase his awareness of just what he is asking his truck to do:?
IMHO 1500# or so over GVWR is beyond "pushing it a little".
My mental, unscientific and totally personal opinion is that up to 500# over GVWR is no big deal - beyond that it really needs another look.
YMMV.

Hey OP:

Post your actual weights and settle this 'at ratings' or 'over'

[kaydeejay]

Paul Clancy wrote:

kaydeejay wrote:

Paul Clancy wrote:

The dually rears are larger. SRW 3500 and 2500 the same.

OK, good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
Does that still apply for the 2012/13/14 model years? Thought I read somewhere even the SRW 3500 has larger brakes than the 2500.

Same in the parts catalogs I look at.

Good enough for me - thanks for the clarification - again:)

[Paul_Clancy]

kaydeejay wrote:

Paul Clancy wrote:

The dually rears are larger. SRW 3500 and 2500 the same.

OK, good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
Does that still apply for the 2012/13/14 model years? Thought I read somewhere even the SRW 3500 has larger brakes than the 2500.

Same in the parts catalogs I look at.

[kaydeejay]

FSJPat wrote:
Congratulations on the new rig, sorry the weight police have to jump in and try and rain on your parade.

"Rain on your parade" or increase his awareness of just what he is asking his truck to do:?
IMHO 1500# or so over GVWR is beyond "pushing it a little".
My mental, unscientific and totally personal opinion is that up to 500# over GVWR is no big deal - beyond that it really needs another look.
YMMV.

[FSJPat]

Congratulations on the new rig, sorry the weight police have to jump in and try and rain on your parade.

[kaydeejay]

Paul Clancy wrote:

The dually rears are larger. SRW 3500 and 2500 the same.

OK, good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
Does that still apply for the 2012/13/14 model years? Thought I read somewhere even the SRW 3500 has larger brakes than the 2500.

[travelnutz]

Right on Paul, a little larger rears due to the dual rear wheels and the cargo carrying approx 1200 lb increase over the 3500HD SRW model after subtracting the weight of the 2 additional wheels/tires etc. It's basically a linear increase.

[shooterdad]

Geez some of you crack me up..lol
I used to compete with a bow and arrow shooting 3D targets quite a bit and was pretty good with it .I was at a competition one day and a guy walked up and asked me about Dynamic deflection of an arrow and how it effected the arrows flight, he went on to tell me how it wasnt possible for my current bow and arrow combo shouldnt work according to all of his data. I won or placed in the top 3 shooters at any given time , and I assure you when I missed it was almost always because I missread the yardage or wind, and not my equipment. I then politely explained that if you e worried more about actually shooting his bow and using the knowledge he learned from doing so he would get a lot more enjoyment out of the sport .

My point here is this , This happy new owner comes on here to share his excitement about his new rig and you guys get into a battle over Dynamic deflection of truck capabilities...lol

I know a lot of people that arent capable of driving a passenger car let alone a truck , and some of them retire and buy trailers and all the sudden they are experts on towing and towing capabilities.
Dont get me wrong I am not advocating that its a good idea to tow a grossly unreasonable amount of weight no matter what you have , however it doesnt mean that an experienced driver isnt able to safely tow a trailer that exceeds its gvrw . Common sense and experience go along way in this equation .

I dont mean to offend anyone , as we all are entitled to our opinions , just wanted this fellow to be able to bask in the glory of his new traler for a minute before controversy spoiled his excitment.

Have a good night gentleman....and to the OP congratulations !

[Paul_Clancy]

kaydeejay wrote:

travelnutz wrote:
No food fight between kaydeejay and I at all as we PM'd each other long before your thread. He's a real good guy and there's zero disrespect between us. Sometimes things can be interpreted differently between those in the same professions.

Nutz & I have had several very professional discussions off-line. He and I both have a lot of vehicle performance/test/certification experience even though we worked in different fields. I have a very high respect for his opinions.
I also owe him an answer on the brake size on 2007s.
I don't have that answer yet (my buddy retired same time as I did and the 2007s weren't even on the radar at that time) BUT I DO know that in 2005 (the year of my truck) the 1-tons had slightly larger diameter and thicker rear discs compared to the 3/4 tons. The brake swept area was quite a lot larger.
I'm still working on the 2007 info!

The dually rears are larger. SRW 3500 and 2500 the same.