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5th Wheel Pin Weight on 2500HD Chevy HELP!!!

dpark
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I am not looking for the weight police to chime in, I am looking for answers from people with the above truck or a legitimate answer. I am going to pull the trigger on a 2500HD this week (truck is already picked out with deal made) but didn't do it due to just needing to make sure I am within specs.

The truck is a 2014 2500LTZ 4x4 crew cab with a Duramax/Allison combination. GVWR 10000lbs. The truck specs are 2706# payload, 6200# rear axle, 5200# front axle 15800# fifth wheel towing, 24500# GCVWR

My fifth wheel that I currently own and will be pulling with it is a 2014 Keystone Cougar High Country 315RES. Specs are 8563 empty with 2437 carrying capacity...leading to 11000# Gross rating. I know this is fine, but the pin weight is listed at 1600# and when I weighted it on our truck scales it was closer to 1800# loaded.

Is anyone towing something similar to this and do you feel I am within specs to be legal?
2017 Chevy 3500HD LTZ+, Z-71, Nav, Duramax/Allison
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mdamerell
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If you are asking the question you must know in the back of your mind you'd be better off with the 3500. For the price difference why not get the 3500 and not worry about it?

Either way, I hope you enjoy your new truck 🙂
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mguay
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You didn't say if it was a Gasser or a D/A? If it is the 6.0 Gasser...make sure it has the 4.10 rear end! I had an 09 6.0 with the 3.73 rear and my current 5er and had a hard time getting 8 mpg while towing!
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dpark
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I appreciate all the replies so far. Keep them coming. I only usually make one (long to me trip) over 300 miles to the ocean each year and the rest are less than 100 miles, probably closer to 50 miles. I just want to make sure I am buying a truck that I won't second guess.
2017 Chevy 3500HD LTZ+, Z-71, Nav, Duramax/Allison
2018 Coachmen Chaparral 360IBL
Honda EU2000is
Honda EU2000i Companion

F4whlr
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dpark, my pin weight is 1550#, and no I am not over my weight#,I try not to overload the fiver. I keep all my loaded weight distributed as best I can.
F4whlr
2009 Keystone Cougar 318SAB
2004 Chev Silverado 2500HD 8.1/Allison/4.10
Prodigy B/C
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padredw
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OK, not a recommendation, just a report. We have a 2007 Chevrolet 2500 Duramax/Allison no modifications. Single rear wheels. Long bed, crew cab.

Our RV is a HitchHiker II UKTG with the following specs:
Hitch weight 2020
UVW 10,120
GVWR 13,675

We have towed in this configuration for 54,000 miles including all over the Rocky Mountain states: New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Montanta, as well as Washington and Oregon.

Also up to Ontario and Maine and over to Savannah and down to The Valley.

We have never felt any lack of control, stability, or power. The tow/haul mode works great on the mountain passes.

This is just one couple's experience.

jaycocamprs
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2700# payload - 1800# pin = 900 for you (the part over 150#), the wife, dog, hitch, fire wood, ect. We would be over loaded! With our Mountaineers 2700# pin weight, we would overload as soon as I got in the truck :E.
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dpark
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f4whlr,
I am not going to look for another fifth wheel for a long time...we just got this one, looked for a long time and it's just me the wife, daughter and dog. It's a lot of camper for what we needed, but the wife wanted more than less. I really appreciate your post. If I can ask, what is your pin weight and are you over GVWR when "loaded"?
2017 Chevy 3500HD LTZ+, Z-71, Nav, Duramax/Allison
2018 Coachmen Chaparral 360IBL
Honda EU2000is
Honda EU2000i Companion

F4whlr
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The question you have to ask yourself, do I /will I possibly purchase a larger/heavier fiver in the future ? If there is a possibility then I would look into a 3500HD. As you will see in my sig I have a 2500HD pulling a Cougar 318sab which is heavier than your 315. I have a fiver rating of 15400# with a GCWR of 22000# Hope this may help.
F4whlr
2009 Keystone Cougar 318SAB
2004 Chev Silverado 2500HD 8.1/Allison/4.10
Prodigy B/C
K&N F/I air intake

agesilaus
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Since you have not signed on the line yet: it is really a lot better to get a 3500. The price difference isn't that much and you will get more load capacity. But it looks like you should be OK with that 1800#, add 200# for the hitch and you have 700# for passengers and other gear. But if down the road you want a bigger fiver then you may have a problem.
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