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Andersen Ultimate not working for me

wvcampers
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I went from a Reese 16K slider to the Andersen ultimate. My trailer was very stable with the Reese, with the Andersen the trailer is constantly moveing around. It is bad enough that can feel it and it is uncomfortable towing. I have a short bed F350 SRW CC 6.7 diesel. The camper is a 34' Cardinal. I have the Andersen in the rear position because the Cardinal has a flat nose and I need the clearance to get into my driveway. I put the Reese back in the truck and all is well. Any ideas why the trailer movement with the Andersen?
2017 F350 6.7 CC Lariat DRW
2018 Cardinal Luxury Edition 3250 RLX
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time2roll
Nomad
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How does Andersen avoid using safety chains? Still looks like a goose neck and ball hitch.

cummins2014
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wvcampers wrote:
Timay wrote:
^^^ +1

I have the Demco and was going to mention that it adjusts just fine, then up2nogood mentioned them all! Well most of them...

Tim


Thanks, I will check it out.



I think I would, somehow you have been mislead. As I said before If I had to do it over I would have went an auto hitch.

On second thought if I was doing it today I would go the Andersen, but apparently that didn't work out for you.

wvcampers
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Timay wrote:
^^^ +1

I have the Demco and was going to mention that it adjusts just fine, then up2nogood mentioned them all! Well most of them...

Tim


Thanks, I will check it out.
2017 F350 6.7 CC Lariat DRW
2018 Cardinal Luxury Edition 3250 RLX

Timay
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Explorer
^^^ +1

I have the Demco and was going to mention that it adjusts just fine, then up2nogood mentioned them all! Well most of them...

Tim

cummins2014
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wvcampers wrote:

The auto sliders don't have the vertical adjustment to keep the trailer from being nose high.



Not sure what automatic hitches you are looking at . Superglide ISR series have two different heigh adjustments . Demco has three height adjustments with about the same range as any other hitch .

As mentioned there is also the pin box to adjust for height. Its seems you have been mislead on the auto sliding hitches.

cummins2014
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Me Again wrote:
up2nogood wrote:


Why not an automatic slider, if I had to do it over I would never go a manual slider again. IMO the manual sliders are a pain.


Don't most auto sliders require almost a straight line up to hitch and unhitch? That might be a bigger pain than a manual slider? Chris



Thats possible I guess, but the fact of not needing to worry about the possibility of hitting the cab would outweigh the hitching process. I would suppose its a matter of which pain is the worst. Pros ,and cons .

Cdash
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wvcampers wrote:

The auto sliders don't have the vertical adjustment to keep the trailer from being nose high.


Isn't that why the pin boxes are adjustable for height? Raising the hitch or lowering the pin box accomplishes the same thing.

Searching_Ut
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MFL wrote:
Searching_Ut wrote:
After this weekend, I've gone from pleased with my Andersen Ultimate to being now a downright super fan. I had to run up to ND to rescue the Son in Law who has been working the oil fields up there living out of a presidential suites triple axle fifth wheel.

Set up the Andersen hitch to max height initially since I had to back in at a pretty good angle with the truck on a fairly steep incline and the trailer sunk in the frozen ground. No problem hooking up, and the ease of adjusting the hitch was greatly appreciated. Once we got out to pavement after 3 or so miles of torn up frozen mud road, we readjusted the hitch and pulled the 650 miles to Rawlins through high winds, freezing rain, extremely icy roads for a couple hundred miles, and up to 6 plus inches of snow in whiteout conditions on the road from Casper to Rawlins. We saw dozens of vehicles off the road and a half dozen or so semis that had lost it and ended up in the ditch as an indicator of how bad some of the roads were. Even though I was probably overweight for a SRW truck the setup handled beautifully in the wind, through the curves, and on the ice. The lack of slop and good solid hookup worked like a charm.


That is a good testimonial for the truck and the Andersen hitch. Conditions couldn't have been worse, nor the terrain any tougher.

Sounds like the SIL is lucky to have the FIL too!

Jerry


I will say the SIL worked his Tush off on this trip. Had to jack each wheel up one at a time so we could fill under them with gravel since I couldn't get the traction to pull him out of the ground even with chains. Then he had to later change a tire in freezing rain before we even got out of ND. We got lucky to only blow one since they were 10 years old if I read the date codes right. Also had to manually crank in one slide. I don't think either one of us will ever try to take on a 1875 mile winter road trip on a 3 day weekend again. That said it was fun racing the snowmobiles down the road through west Yellowstone on the way up there so it wasn't all bad.
2015 Ram 3500 Laramie CTD, 4X4, AISIN, B&W Companion Puck Mount
2016 Heartland Bighorn 3270RS, 1kw solar with Trimetric and dual SC2030, 600 watt and 2k inverters.

MFL
Nomad II
Nomad II
Searching_Ut wrote:
After this weekend, I've gone from pleased with my Andersen Ultimate to being now a downright super fan. I had to run up to ND to rescue the Son in Law who has been working the oil fields up there living out of a presidential suites triple axle fifth wheel.

Set up the Andersen hitch to max height initially since I had to back in at a pretty good angle with the truck on a fairly steep incline and the trailer sunk in the frozen ground. No problem hooking up, and the ease of adjusting the hitch was greatly appreciated. Once we got out to pavement after 3 or so miles of torn up frozen mud road, we readjusted the hitch and pulled the 650 miles to Rawlins through high winds, freezing rain, extremely icy roads for a couple hundred miles, and up to 6 plus inches of snow in whiteout conditions on the road from Casper to Rawlins. We saw dozens of vehicles off the road and a half dozen or so semis that had lost it and ended up in the ditch as an indicator of how bad some of the roads were. Even though I was probably overweight for a SRW truck the setup handled beautifully in the wind, through the curves, and on the ice. The lack of slop and good solid hookup worked like a charm.


That is a good testimonial for the truck and the Andersen hitch. Conditions couldn't have been worse, nor the terrain any tougher.

Sounds like the SIL is lucky to have the FIL too!

Jerry

wvcampers
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up2nogood wrote:
wvcampers wrote:
Cdash wrote:
Look at the bright side. It wasn't tremendously expensive, and if your the only one with problems, you should be able to sell it pretty easily.


You are right. Next will be the BW slider. The reason I wanted to try the Andersen is because it is easy to remove from the truck due to it's light weight. I have used this Reese square tube slider for 5 years and I don't like all of the slop in the hitch. The advantage of the Reese is the height adjustment. I had it set to the lowest position. I have raised the fiver with the correct track so I should be able to use the BW hitch now.


Why not an automatic slider, if I had to do it over I would never go a manual slider again. IMO the manual sliders are a pain.

The auto sliders don't have the vertical adjustment to keep the trailer from being nose high.
2017 F350 6.7 CC Lariat DRW
2018 Cardinal Luxury Edition 3250 RLX

Me_Again
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Explorer III
up2nogood wrote:


Why not an automatic slider, if I had to do it over I would never go a manual slider again. IMO the manual sliders are a pain.


Don't most auto sliders require almost a straight line up to hitch and unhitch? That might be a bigger pain than a manual slider? Chris
2021 F150 2.7 Ecoboost - Summer Home 2017 Bighorn 3575el. Can Am Spyder RT-L Chrome, Kawasaki KRX1000. Retired and enjoying it! RIP DW 07-05-2021

Searching_Ut
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After this weekend, I've gone from pleased with my Andersen Ultimate to being now a downright super fan. I had to run up to ND to rescue the Son in Law who has been working the oil fields up there living out of a presidential suites triple axle fifth wheel.

Set up the Andersen hitch to max height initially since I had to back in at a pretty good angle with the truck on a fairly steep incline and the trailer sunk in the frozen ground. No problem hooking up, and the ease of adjusting the hitch was greatly appreciated. Once we got out to pavement after 3 or so miles of torn up frozen mud road, we readjusted the hitch and pulled the 650 miles to Rawlins through high winds, freezing rain, extremely icy roads for a couple hundred miles, and up to 6 plus inches of snow in whiteout conditions on the road from Casper to Rawlins. We saw dozens of vehicles off the road and a half dozen or so semis that had lost it and ended up in the ditch as an indicator of how bad some of the roads were. Even though I was probably overweight for a SRW truck the setup handled beautifully in the wind, through the curves, and on the ice. The lack of slop and good solid hookup worked like a charm.
2015 Ram 3500 Laramie CTD, 4X4, AISIN, B&W Companion Puck Mount
2016 Heartland Bighorn 3270RS, 1kw solar with Trimetric and dual SC2030, 600 watt and 2k inverters.

cummins2014
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wvcampers wrote:
Cdash wrote:
Look at the bright side. It wasn't tremendously expensive, and if your the only one with problems, you should be able to sell it pretty easily.


You are right. Next will be the BW slider. The reason I wanted to try the Andersen is because it is easy to remove from the truck due to it's light weight. I have used this Reese square tube slider for 5 years and I don't like all of the slop in the hitch. The advantage of the Reese is the height adjustment. I had it set to the lowest position. I have raised the fiver with the correct track so I should be able to use the BW hitch now.


Why not an automatic slider, if I had to do it over I would never go a manual slider again. IMO the manual sliders are a pain.

wvcampers
Explorer
Explorer
Cdash wrote:
Look at the bright side. It wasn't tremendously expensive, and if your the only one with problems, you should be able to sell it pretty easily.


You are right. Next will be the BW slider. The reason I wanted to try the Andersen is because it is easy to remove from the truck due to it's light weight. I have used this Reese square tube slider for 5 years and I don't like all of the slop in the hitch. The advantage of the Reese is the height adjustment. I had it set to the lowest position. I have raised the fiver with the correct track so I should be able to use the BW hitch now.
2017 F350 6.7 CC Lariat DRW
2018 Cardinal Luxury Edition 3250 RLX

Cdash
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Explorer
Look at the bright side. It wasn't tremendously expensive, and if your the only one with problems, you should be able to sell it pretty easily.