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Cedar Creek Silverback Pin Weights

GASA765
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Does anyone know the actual pin weights of the Silverback 33LCDTS and the 29LRGBS? The 33LCDTS is an '08 and the 29LRGBS is an '07. I know what the brochure weights indicate but wonder if the actual pin weight runs higher than stated like the Montana's do.
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2007 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab 6.7L CTD
2007 Forrest River Wildcat LSBS
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donn0128
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Me Again wrote:
donn0128 wrote:
Cedar creeks are heavy on the pin. Expect about 25% of the trailers actual weight. Lacking that figure 25% of the trailers GVWR. And NO a 2500 series is not enough truck if you asking.


Set of air bags on the rear of his 2007.5 RAM and he should be good to around 3K in the bed. Hitch, gear, and pin weight. Except for the rear springs the 2007.5 2500 and 3500 SRW trucks were actually the same.

Chris


I believe you will find that the rear end is different. My dually has a 11.5 inch AAM rear axle, and I believe the 2500/3500SRW has a 10.5.
Besides that tires and wheel capacity is less. BT-DT and his 2500 simply is not going to be enough to do the job pulling into or out of central Oregon

Me_Again
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donn0128 wrote:
Cedar creeks are heavy on the pin. Expect about 25% of the trailers actual weight. Lacking that figure 25% of the trailers GVWR. And NO a 2500 series is not enough truck if you asking.


Set of air bags on the rear of his 2007.5 RAM and he should be good to around 3K in the bed. Hitch, gear, and pin weight. Except for the rear springs the 2007.5 2500 and 3500 SRW trucks were actually the same.

Chris
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skipnchar
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In order for anyone to give that number they'd have to know how YOU will load the trailer.
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donn0128
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Cedar creeks are heavy on the pin. Expect about 25% of the trailers actual weight. Lacking that figure 25% of the trailers GVWR. And NO a 2500 series is not enough truck if you asking.

Me_Again
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If you take the unloaded pin weight and the unloaded trailer weight and compute the pin weight percentage and then apply the same percentage to the GVWR of the trailer you will be fairly close.

Through that period of time most mid level trailers were built to come close to that 20 percent pin standard.

In recent years manufacturers like Cardinal have moved the axles back, greatly increasing the pin weight percentage.

Chris
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Michelle_S
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A lot of varibles there. Will depend on options, such as larger propane tanks, second AC, on board genny, location of fresh water tank, etc. If you have the gross for each, using 20% will put you in the ball park, or use 15% for the low side and 25% for the high as most will fall in there somewhere. Our Montana when scaled came right in at 20% (14000/2800). Now our Redwood with the genny runs 25% on the pin.
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