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smarty
Explorer II
Explorer II
Need to replace tires on my 38' fifthwheel that weighs 18,000 lbs
Tires that came with rig are five ply
I got a great deal on 12 ply tires
Any reason for not upgrading to 12 ply tires?
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CALandLIN
Explorer
Explorer
JIMNLIN wrote:
You should better describe a five ply tire. Is that three belt plies and two sidewall plys?

In today's tire industry, ST & LT tires load capacities are defined by a single load range letter following a tire service description or written out on the tire sidewall like this, LRD. A LRD tire would be equal to an 8 ply tire in the old ply rating system.

Yeah....the tire industry still uses ply rated or ply rating sometimes written as a PR in their brochures/website adds.

The OP probably reading the tires actual number of plies that go like this for just about all our high capacity LT and ST tires...
2 body plies (poly or steel)...
2 steel tread plies
1 ply under the tread plies usually nylon.


My post that you have taken upon yourself to correct into your wording that is equal to mine in another descriptive method is moot.

We still don't have an accurate description of the tires smarty is trying to describe. There isn't much to comment about with his description because it doesn't lead is to a load range or a descriptive tire size.

CALandLIN
Explorer
Explorer
eHoefler wrote:
http://roadmastertires.com/getmedia/b6ee23c2-4f5f-4536-9468-b76d751ddaad/RM170.aspx

I run J-rated 17.5's on ours with the correct wheel rated at 125 psi and 6005 pounds each. I have had these now for 3 years and I cannot find anything to complain about this combonation. It was $5.00 more to buy the tire and wheel than just buying new 16" tires.


Did you know the 6005# load capacity LRJ tires in your reference above also have a speed letter "J" = 62 MPG?

JIMNLIN
Explorer
Explorer
You should better describe a five ply tire. Is that three belt plies and two sidewall plys?

In today's tire industry, ST & LT tires load capacities are defined by a single load range letter following a tire service description or written out on the tire sidewall like this, LRD. A LRD tire would be equal to an 8 ply tire in the old ply rating system.

Yeah....the tire industry still uses ply rated or ply rating sometimes written as a PR in their brochures/website adds.

The OP probably reading the tires actual number of plies that go like this for just about all our high capacity LT and ST tires...
2 body plies (poly or steel)...
2 steel tread plies
1 ply under the tread plies usually nylon.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 two slides

fj12ryder
Explorer III
Explorer III
eHoefler wrote:
http://roadmastertires.com/getmedia/b6ee23c2-4f5f-4536-9468-b76d751ddaad/RM170.aspx

I run J-rated 17.5's on ours with the correct wheel rated at 125 psi and 6005 pounds each. I have had these now for 3 years and I cannot find anything to complain about this combonation. It was $5.00 more to buy the tire and wheel than just buying new 16" tires.
$155 for a wheel and tire is one heck of a deal in any size.
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"

memtb
Explorer
Explorer
eHoefler wrote:
http://roadmastertires.com/getmedia/b6ee23c2-4f5f-4536-9468-b76d751ddaad/RM170.aspx

I run J-rated 17.5's on ours with the correct wheel rated at 125 psi and 6005 pounds each. I have had these now for 3 years and I cannot find anything to complain about this combonation. It was $5.00 more to buy the tire and wheel than just buying new 16" tires.


We love our H - rated Continental’s as well!
Todd & Marianne
Miniature Schnauzer's - Sundai, Nellie & Maggie Mae
2007 Dodge Ram 3500, 6.7 Cummins, 6 speed manual, 3.73 ratio, 4x4
2004 Teton Grand Freedom, 39'
2007 Bigfoot 30MH26Sl

eHoefler
Explorer II
Explorer II
http://roadmastertires.com/getmedia/b6ee23c2-4f5f-4536-9468-b76d751ddaad/RM170.aspx

I run J-rated 17.5's on ours with the correct wheel rated at 125 psi and 6005 pounds each. I have had these now for 3 years and I cannot find anything to complain about this combonation. It was $5.00 more to buy the tire and wheel than just buying new 16" tires.
2021 Ram Limited, 3500, Crew Cab, 1075FTPD of Torque!, Max Tow, Long bed, 4 x 4, Dually,
2006 40' Landmark Mt. Rushmore

cummins2014
Explorer
Explorer
3 dog nights wrote:
Goodyear G-614's !



Why not, and pay double for them over the Sailuns, and arguably an inferior tire to the Sailun, but JMHO

3_dog_nights
Explorer
Explorer
Goodyear G-614's !
Bob & Lynn
2 Chihuahua's, Ella, Gracie

was-2013 Open Range 424RLS,06' Chevy 3500, dually, Duramax/Allison

also was - 2015 Winnebago Adventurer 37F, towing 2003 Jeep Wrangler

now - 2021 NoBo 19.5, 2019 Honda Ridgeline RTL (Talk about downsizing!)

theoldwizard1
Explorer
Explorer
Ignore "ply" ratings. At one time it really had meaning. Not much any more. The best thing is to look at actual load rating (in pounds) on the side of the tire.

Also remember you can use LT (light truck) tires in place of ST (specialty) as long as they meet the load rating. Usually more choices in LT tires.

2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
johntank wrote:
Somewhere on the tire it will give the number of plies in the tread and sidewall areas and the materials used for the plies.
This is where the OP came up with his tires being 5 ply IMHO.
That's what I asked him.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

johntank
Explorer
Explorer
Somewhere on the tire it will give the number of plies in the tread and sidewall areas and the materials used for the plies.


This is where the OP came up with his tires being 5 ply IMHO.

time2roll
Nomad
Nomad
Just verify the wheel is rated to handle the pressure.
I would only buy tires that have a load rating for the entire GVWR.

CALandLIN
Explorer
Explorer
smarty wrote:
Need to replace tires on my 38' fifthwheel that weighs 18,000 lbs
Tires that came with rig are five ply
I got a great deal on 12 ply tires
Any reason for not upgrading to 12 ply tires?


You should better describe a five ply tire. Is that three belt plies and two sidewall plys?

In today's tire industry, ST & LT tires load capacities are defined by a single load range letter following a tire service description or written out on the tire sidewall like this, LRD. A LRD tire would be equal to an 8 ply tire in the old ply rating system.

memtb
Explorer
Explorer
smarty wrote:
Need to replace tires on my 38' fifthwheel that weighs 18,000 lbs
Tires that came with rig are five ply
I got a great deal on 12 ply tires
Any reason for not upgrading to 12 ply tires?


I hope not.... We’re running “H”rated tires on ours!
Todd & Marianne
Miniature Schnauzer's - Sundai, Nellie & Maggie Mae
2007 Dodge Ram 3500, 6.7 Cummins, 6 speed manual, 3.73 ratio, 4x4
2004 Teton Grand Freedom, 39'
2007 Bigfoot 30MH26Sl

jkwilson
Explorer II
Explorer II
fj12ryder wrote:
I don't believe that radial tires actually would have 14, 10, or even 8 "plies". Plies have pretty much not been a real thing since bias ply tires bit the dust mostly. IMO it is probably more important to go by weight and carrying capacity. But that's JMO.


This is correct.
John & Kathy
2014 Grand Design Reflection 303RLS
2014 F250 SBCC 6.2L 3.73