Grand Design Reflection 5th wheels

[malbre]

I was just wondering what anyone has to say about the Grand Design Reflection 5th wheels. What brand has had the best recommendation from owners.

[Lantley]

2008Wildcat wrote:

PatRenee wrote:
Open Range is built better... In my opinion at least...

Any reason?

The designer/engineer that was building Open Range is now the engineer for Reflection.

Open Range cheaps out on the slides, with using cable slides.

Who knows what they will do since Jayco had to bail them out a couple years ago..

Cable slides are all about weight reduction. You are seeing them more and more. Open Range units are typically lighter than the competition.

As far as Jayco Bailing them out. You are correct to a point. They needed to more cash flow to keep up with demand for their units.
Jayco must have seen them as a decent company or they would not have gotten involve. Randy Graber the original CEO is still in charge.

[SkiSmuggs]

garyp4951 wrote:
I'm pretty sure the Grand Design Imagine I looked at also had a cable slide.

And that is their low cost unit.
We looked at Open Range prior to buying our Cougar High Country and we just thought it looked cheap. We recently looked at a Reflection 337RLS and it appears to be just what we want in a fiver.

[garyp4951]

I'm pretty sure the Grand Design Imagine I looked at also had a cable slide.

[2008Wildcat]

PatRenee wrote:
Open Range is built better... In my opinion at least...

Any reason?

The designer/engineer that was building Open Range is now the engineer for Reflection.

Open Range cheaps out on the slides, with using cable slides.

Who knows what they will do since Jayco had to bail them out a couple years ago..

[2008Wildcat]

Kster wrote:
We are also heavily considering the GD 323BHS, but have a question for the GD experts.

We are okay without having an end cap, but why no rear bumper? It seems very plain without it. Even our old popup had a bumper.

Thoughts?

Because so many people clamp on bike racks and end up twisting the bumper off.

For the same cost, they have a frame mounted 2" receiver for bike racks or storage racks.

For those that are arguing for a rear cap, they don't have bumpers either.

[Me_Again]

What topjimmy said! ^^^^^

[topjimmy]

I can tell ya why as i have friends with 2 GD Solitudes and they like them just fine but even they will tell ya ,they Cheap out on so many things like you mentioned and MANY other things to stay in the same price range as the Montana Legacy .Cedar creek.Heartland Big Horn,Jayco Pinnacle..ETC.... and that is too bad because they are nice looking RV's with good Customer Service

[Kster]

We are also heavily considering the GD 323BHS, but have a question for the GD experts.

We are okay without having an end cap, but why no rear bumper? It seems very plain without it. Even our old popup had a bumper.

Thoughts?

[Me_Again]

Not that we like our Oak anymore, it is much lighter than most newer trailers. Chris

[nevadan660]

GD FW's, interior too dark for me - no thank you, that's why I chose an ARTIC FOX.

[Sunnyside42]

We're looking a GD ourselves. I really like the construction of the open range, but prefer a few of the layouts in the GD lineup better. Looks like both lines are pretty close. The toy hauler options from GD are currently pulling us in their direction.

[Me_Again]

Coach-man wrote:
as to what could possibly be so important about an end cap to not even consider a brand!

C H E A P L O O K S?

[Coach-man]

Second Chance wrote:
Interesting... the OP was simply asking for input on the Grand Design fifth wheels and the thread appears to have been turned into a battle of end caps. Really?

Rob

Sorry, I highjacked the post! I noticed or failed to notice any significant difference between rigs with/without end caps, and "me again" commented, and has commented in the past that he would buy a Grand Design 5th wheel in a moment, if and only if they had an end cap. I was simply trying to get someone to educate me, (I thought that was the whole reason for these forums), as to what could possibly be so important about an end cap to not even consider a brand!

[PatRenee]

Open Range is built better... In my opinion at least...