Feb-02-2015 03:47 PM
Feb-03-2015 10:10 PM
NC Hauler wrote:mdamerell wrote:
Prior to the tow wars of 2005 the ratings of trucks were nowhere near what they are today. Need to weigh your truck and check it's ratings. Example I have a 2004 F350. When you read the charts, once you get to 20,000# GVWR it just stops. Add the DRW's no change, add 4.10 rear no change, add the diesel no change. A post 2005 F350 dually is like 26,000# GVWR. All of a sudden you get credit. So while it looks like I have overkill, technically I'm at the 20,000# GVWR limit of my truck. Looking at 2000 tow guides you are pushing the limits. Every truck is different and you need to look up your specific truck ratings.
The 8,200# on a 2008 Sundance is a dry weight. After we loaded ours and did a couple of upgrades we added about 1,500# so that 8,200# trailer when loaded is probably closer to 9,000# plus ready to roll and a pin weight of 1,800 to 2,000#. My Sundance runs around 22%. The Sundance was the right trailer for us but you need to look at how you will use it and go from there.
Enjoy whichever unit you pick.
I think you meant GCWR, not GVWR....But I agree with you on the weights....OP will be close.
To the OP; IF YOU ARE using the empty or dry weight of the 5er, you aren't doing yourself any favors. You will need to use the 5er's GVW to decide if your truck can tow it....You may not load the 5er to it's GVW, but it's a much more realistic weight than an "empty" or "dry" weight.
You also need to take approx. 20% of the 5er's weight to "ball park" your possible pin weight and that'll be the amount of weight you'll put into the bed of your truck. You need to weigh your truck, loaded to go camping and see what the "drive axle", (rear axle weight is)...Then look on your door jamb to see what your trucks rear axle is rated at....and subtract the difference....that'll give you max payload amount left to load your truck to. Add 200# for a 5rh wheel hitch plus the "ball park" of how much pin weight you'll have.
I had a 1999 1/2 ton Chevy pick up for a very short time that I tried to tow a 27' 5er with, same engine you have, not sure of the gearing and the 1/2 ton, back then, didn't like this at all...I went to a 2001 2500 with 8.1 engine..
All this to say, make sure you're using the 5er's GVW to find out if this 5er will work for your truck, take approx. 20% of that to ball park how much pin weight you might be putting in the bed of your truck...and go from there.....I think GVWR on your truck is 9200#, unless it was less from 2000 to 2001....not sure on GCWR...
Feb-03-2015 01:05 PM
MFL wrote:
Jim, I agree, it will be a load for the truck, and the old 5.7 didn't have much tow ability.
The OP says he is just going to move it to his site in the Spring, and home in the Fall.
My neighbor mentioned above is very much overloaded, but usually pulls out 3 miles to the city park, a couple times a month. I try to help him when I can, they are older than me.
Jerry
Feb-03-2015 01:01 PM
Feb-03-2015 12:47 PM
mdamerell wrote:
Prior to the tow wars of 2005 the ratings of trucks were nowhere near what they are today. Need to weigh your truck and check it's ratings. Example I have a 2004 F350. When you read the charts, once you get to 20,000# GVWR it just stops. Add the DRW's no change, add 4.10 rear no change, add the diesel no change. A post 2005 F350 dually is like 26,000# GVWR. All of a sudden you get credit. So while it looks like I have overkill, technically I'm at the 20,000# GVWR limit of my truck. Looking at 2000 tow guides you are pushing the limits. Every truck is different and you need to look up your specific truck ratings.
The 8,200# on a 2008 Sundance is a dry weight. After we loaded ours and did a couple of upgrades we added about 1,500# so that 8,200# trailer when loaded is probably closer to 9,000# plus ready to roll and a pin weight of 1,800 to 2,000#. My Sundance runs around 22%. The Sundance was the right trailer for us but you need to look at how you will use it and go from there.
Enjoy whichever unit you pick.
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