New Outside Stairs

[Gray_Fox]

Has anyone installed the new stairs they have, for 5th/wheels to replace the old ones. I saw them at an R V Show last week. They seem very easy to install.

Gray Fox

[Cummins12V98]

MFL wrote:
^I agree, even light duty steps are not going to collapse. My last two FWs have had 3-steps not 4 as pictured. The previous FW steps did flex more than I liked, when stepping on a corner, but not a real problem. Current fold out steps, are very solid and are a great Lippert product. They do have a wt rating, IIRC 300 lbs?

Jerry

I have to say I have gotten a very uneasy feeling using some of the flimsy 4 steps after being used to what mine feel like.

[Cummins12V98]

Lantley wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Lantley wrote:
In all your post you are not one to go cheap.
Get a set of real Torxlift glow steps. They will look the same as those fake torxlift's you posted. But they will actually be totally stable because they will be supported by the ground.
You know better that to bargain shop!:B

Not sure who you are talking to???

I was asked by TorkLift to try out a set and was told I could keep them if I would give my honest opinion.. I declined but IMHO they are nice quality but I love what I have.

Granted they are your steps and I understand you are happy with them which is all that really matters.
But those steps simply don't compare to true Torxlift steps simply because they are unsupported.

To each their own as they say. Mine simply deflect 1/2" with my 200#'s on last step. That is nothing. My OE steps were the same. TorkLift probably would not be in existence if the manufacturers would have put these Elkhart Industries steps on instead of the literally scary and unsafe steps so many went to when they all started going light and cheap.

If mine were not so solid I would have taken the free offer from TorkLift.

[wowens79]

fj12ryder wrote:
When was the last time a set of unsupported steps collapsed? I've never heard of it, and the steps don't flex as much as the trailer suspension moves when weight is applied. No big deal, unless you have mobility issues. I've had both and see no advantage to the solid steps that outweigh their inconvenience.

My traditional folding steps did pull through my laminated floor. I will admit, I'm a big guy and weigh about 300.
The Solid steps are much more solid, and I like them.

They do need to work on the leg adjustment, I think that could be improved.

[MFL]

^I agree, even light duty steps are not going to collapse. My last two FWs have had 3-steps not 4 as pictured. The previous FW steps did flex more than I liked, when stepping on a corner, but not a real problem. Current fold out steps, are very solid and are a great Lippert product. They do have a wt rating, IIRC 300 lbs?

Jerry

[fj12ryder]

When was the last time a set of unsupported steps collapsed? I've never heard of it, and the steps don't flex as much as the trailer suspension moves when weight is applied. No big deal, unless you have mobility issues. I've had both and see no advantage to the solid steps that outweigh their inconvenience.

[Veebyes]

JMO, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. Some of the foldouts are a bit dodgy but I have not seen any so bad that they deserved the money & time to replace.

The fold out & a stool, if necessary, work just fine & all of the dirt stays outside.

[Lantley]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Lantley wrote:
In all your post you are not one to go cheap.
Get a set of real Torxlift glow steps. They will look the same as those fake torxlift's you posted. But they will actually be totally stable because they will be supported by the ground.
You know better that to bargain shop!:B

Not sure who you are talking to???

I was asked by TorkLift to try out a set and was told I could keep them if I would give my honest opinion.. I declined but IMHO they are nice quality but I love what I have.

Granted they are your steps and I understand you are happy with them which is all that really matters.
But those steps simply don't compare to true Torxlift steps simply because they are unsupported.

[valhalla360]

fj12ryder wrote:
They have to be adjusted for almost every time they are deployed.

Back when we had the 4 step cantilever style, we had to adjust every time because I would put a couple aluminum jack stands under the last step because they flexed so much otherwise.

[Cummins12V98]

Lantley wrote:
In all your post you are not one to go cheap.
Get a set of real Torxlift glow steps. They will look the same as those fake torxlift's you posted. But they will actually be totally stable because they will be supported by the ground.
You know better that to bargain shop!:B

Not sure who you are talking to???

I was asked by TorkLift to try out a set and was told I could keep them if I would give my honest opinion.. I declined but IMHO they are nice quality but I love what I have.

[Cummins12V98]

Gray Fox wrote:
Thanks for all your answers about the folding steps. I may look into

the Elkhart 4 Manual folding steps they look good..

The ones that came on our DRV were steel sand same quality and sturdiness. Our steps encountered a concrete light pole base(OOPS). So I was happy to find these with the aluminum and anti skid that just made them better!

[Gray_Fox]

Thanks for all your answers about the folding steps. I may look into

the Elkhart 4 Manual folding steps they look good..

[Lantley]

In all your post you are not one to go cheap.
Get a set of real Torxlift glow steps. They will look the same as those fake torxlift's you posted. But they will actually be totally stable because they will be supported by the ground.
You know better that to bargain shop!:B

[Cummins12V98]

Forget the solid steps that have several issues. Replace your flimsy POS steps with a set of these. VERY solid with only 1/2" deflection with me @ 200# standing on the bottom step. I have had these for 4 years and they still look new and we are full-time. NO WAY you will slip on these!

rvautoparts.com

1424 ALUM BOXED Elkhart Tool and Die Entry Step 4 Manual Folding Steps

Your Price: $322.65

[goducks10]

I installed Solid Steps on my TT. I love em. However I also have two entry doors. I would never put them on a single door 5th wheel. %th wheels sit high off the ground like our TT does. That means you need a minimum of 3 steps and probably 4. That makes the arc to drop them down longer and they will stick out further. The other drawback is pulling off the side of the road and wanting to use the head or grab a bite. If the 5er's not close to level then you have to fiddle with the steps so they deploy right.
Not so with my two door TT. We just use the front entry door when on uneven ground or tight situations.
The other drawback is you once you're backed into your spot you can't get into the 5er until it's level and set up or you risk tweaking the steps.

[TXiceman]

Our daughter has Solid Step stairs on her RV and they are a pain in the rear. Where they store the unit, if someone is parked next to them, they cannot get the stairs down to get in the trailer. They have to hook up to the truck and pull the rig forward. With the old rig and the regular folding steps, they cold fold them out and get into the rig.

For me, they are a deal killer as if there is dirt on them, it is dumped inside the RV.

Ken