Picked up the new home. Road warrior

[Lyrikz]

Anyone who is interested. 34" tires with 2" rear lift. I had a ton of room. 2014 415 road warrior.
Big girl. Truck towed it great. No issues. Weighted it at the scales and im over on the rear axle weight and im over on my GVW. I talked to the real life weight police when i was there and he explained to me that if you have good tires and rim setup, your good to go.. Keep it under 26000 pounds and 65 feet









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[Lyrikz]

I'm Rick James wrote:

Lyrikz wrote:
Besides the benefit of that additional two tires, which will do nothing for the load rating because i have tires that have 5000lb load rating, what is there?

I have no interest in doing research on part numbers from a 2008 Ram. You're grossly overweight and your trying to convince yourself that you're not. If you want to operate that way, that's a conscious decision that you make. The limitations on these trucks are developed by engineers, do you think you know more than those professionals?

Lyrikz wrote:
If you dont have any real life experience, take your hunger games star and step away.

I towed a Voltage 3900 with a SRW Ford F350 and will NEVER do it again. That F350 had substantially more load carrying capacity than your '08 Mega Cab. That's my "real life experience".

What your basically saying is you can not make something better. They designed it one way and nothing you can do can make it better. IM just stating that you are incorrect.

I know im overweight. Got it. But thats set on a set parameter that i have changed.
I dont know why im arguing. IM arguing that your right. I get it.

In about a week when i come back in here i will let you know my experience. Your ford, isnt my dodge. We all know why that ford couldnt handle it 😉

[Bedlam]

I'm Rick James wrote:
I have no interest in doing research on part numbers from a 2008 Ram. You're grossly overweight and your trying to convince yourself that you're not. If you want to operate that way, that's a conscious decision that you make. The limitations on these trucks are developed by engineers, do you think you know more than those professionals?

That argument only holds true if you assume engineering create the specifications instead of accounting or marketing. The fact is that same equipment is under different names and specifications because is cheaper to stock less variety of parts and have less variation on assembly lines.

[I_m_Rick_James]

Lyrikz wrote:

LOL, so rick james, adding better tires and rims are a bandaid?
Troll much?

What was incorrect about my assertion of the complete contradiction of your statement?

[I_m_Rick_James]

Lyrikz wrote:
Besides the benefit of that additional two tires, which will do nothing for the load rating because i have tires that have 5000lb load rating, what is there?

I have no interest in doing research on part numbers from a 2008 Ram. You're grossly overweight and your trying to convince yourself that you're not. If you want to operate that way, that's a conscious decision that you make. The limitations on these trucks are developed by engineers, do you think you know more than those professionals?

Lyrikz wrote:
If you dont have any real life experience, take your hunger games star and step away.

I towed a Voltage 3900 with a SRW Ford F350 and will NEVER do it again. That F350 had substantially more load carrying capacity than your '08 Mega Cab. That's my "real life experience".

[Lyrikz]

Here. here is some more info for you.
Worries are braking. The braking systems are identical.
Ft pads pt# 105.09650. Dual or SRW.
Rear pads pt# 10507021 dual or srw
rotors, same part numbers br53012 front rotors srw or drw
rear rotors br53011.

Only difference in the rear caliper is mounting location due to the location of the dual rims and rotors.

Besides the benefit of that additional two tires, which will do nothing for the load rating because i have tires that have 5000lb load rating, what is there?


If you dont have any real life experience, take your hunger games star and step away.

[Lyrikz]

I'm Rick James wrote:
This statement

Lyrikz wrote:

I havent done any modifications or bandaids.

Directly conflicts with this statement

Lyrikz wrote:

I added better rims and tires.

Lyrikz wrote:

Everything else on my truck is identical to a DRW except the width and those 2nd tires.

LOL, so rick james, adding better tires and rims are a bandaid?
Troll much?

The frame on the DRW is identical to the SRW. The bearings in the rear of the DRW are the same replacement part number to the SRW. The braking system on the DRW is identical to the SRW.
Sooooo, help me find the differences. Im comparing the 2008 drw 1 ton to the 2008 srw 1 ton...
Besides the extra 2 tires... Fill me in..

[I_m_Rick_James]

This statement

Lyrikz wrote:

I havent done any modifications or bandaids.

Directly conflicts with this statement

Lyrikz wrote:

I added better rims and tires.

Lyrikz wrote:

Everything else on my truck is identical to a DRW except the width and those 2nd tires.

[Lyrikz]

Steve76eb wrote:
What was this thread about again? Weight? tires?, brakes? transmissions? dually vs SRW? This thread has a little bit of everything in it. It reminds me of what we used to call in the 4x4/rockcrawling world "polishing a turd". Someone that wants to run 40" tires, but keep the stock jeep axles and throw every upgrade at them possible to make them up to the task, while not realizing until the end they should have just gotten the right axle to begin with.

I think the op just needs to get off the computer, hook up to the beautiful new trailer and go do some camping. Run what you have and if you don't like it upgrade. Though until he is in a class 8 Peterbilt so he doesn't have to worry about weight, tires, braking, and transmissions, I think he will be forever questioning the truck he has.

Well, you are mistaken there. I wont forever question my truck. Once i do my initial trip next weekend, all questions will be answered.

I havent done any modifications or bandaids. I added better rims and tires. Everything else on my truck is identical to a DRW except the width and those 2nd tires. If i got a DRW they would want me to have something bigger.

[Ric_Flair]

Steve76eb wrote:
...I think the op just needs to get off the computer, hook up to the beautiful new trailer and go do some camping. ....

Well said. That's how I decided I needed air bags and GY 614's on the trailer. It's a process.

[Ric_Flair]

Having the same trailer as the OP, but pulling it with a DRW 1 ton GMC, let me say this.

When hooked up the truck would set level, however, on bad roads I would frequently hit the overload stops. I installed air bags and found a measurable improvement in the ride when inflated to 50 psi.

In my opinion, a trailer this size pushes a 1 ton truck to it's limits. Having that weight spread over 6 tires instead of 4 is probably not a bad idea.

[Steve76eb]

What was this thread about again? Weight? tires?, brakes? transmissions? dually vs SRW? This thread has a little bit of everything in it. It reminds me of what we used to call in the 4x4/rockcrawling world "polishing a turd". Someone that wants to run 40" tires, but keep the stock jeep axles and throw every upgrade at them possible to make them up to the task, while not realizing until the end they should have just gotten the right axle to begin with.

I think the op just needs to get off the computer, hook up to the beautiful new trailer and go do some camping. Run what you have and if you don't like it upgrade. Though until he is in a class 8 Peterbilt so he doesn't have to worry about weight, tires, braking, and transmissions, I think he will be forever questioning the truck he has.

[Lyrikz]

2500 Grunt wrote:

bkirkpatrick wrote:

2500 Grunt wrote:
How true of a statement is it that a trailer's brakes (when adjusted properly) are designed to stop the trailer not the TV brakes? Hey, if something fails then all bets are off just like not making sure the pigtail is not all the way in place (relying on the tv to stop the trailer) or some other inop part of the braking system.

Not sure what you are trying to say...

Regarding stopping: The trailer has brakes to stop the trailer and it's weight and the TV has it's own brakes.

Well to change the subject a bit. My 19.5's i put on the tires road awful. I got rid of the chinese sampson and stepped up to the 622 from goodyear...




Now back to my tow rig stuff. Someone mentioned on here that the figure the gvw on a bunch of different statistics, but mostly whatever the weakest component is. On this setup, it was the tires only being rated at 3000lbs. So stepping up to a 5000lb rated rim and tire, that should raise that number, or nothing you do will raise that number??

My only REAL concern is my transmission, and braking. If i do lose trailer brakes. But is a dually, with the same brake setup as my truck, going to stop faster then mine?

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[Lyrikz]

mrxlh wrote:
Congrats on the new rig, looks nice. Let us know how much it costs to fix when you have your first blowout on the camper. I give your rear diff a year before it heads south.

This******right here. The rear diff. has the same bearing setup as the DRW. So that statement is just crap. The extra two wheels wont help save my diff. Now if the DRW had larger bearings then i would be concerned. You are just spouting out nonsense.

[Bedlam]

The GCWR and tow ratings are typically the same between 3/4t and 1t SRW trucks. What is different between them is the GVWR. They usually have options to keep under the 10k lb limit and other configurations that put the same truck in the 12k range. These trucks are the same except for suspension and wheel upgrades.

This is why there is little difference in choosing either model if you plan to upgrade OEM equipment anyway.

[ricatic]

afishinado wrote:
Absorbing this thread like a sponge... You guys are making me nervous about buying a 3/4 to pull my rig (marginal, and that is what previous owner used). I see no point in a SRW 1 ton, so if it isn't a 3/4 it will be a dually. If I have to drive a dam school bus around when I'm not towing, it is going to really screw up the entire plan. I will lay odds right now if I end up driving a dually I'll sell the whole thing at the end of the trip and forget about the whole RV thing. Touring is supposed to be fun, if I wanted to drive a school bus I would do it. I have had big boats, big toys, they suck. Not happy right now.

I do not understand the "no point in a SRW 1 ton" comment...while I would not tow the OP's Road Warrior with any SRW truck, there are many fivers out there up to 16000# GVW that would be tow-able with a SRW 1 ton pickup while remaining within manufacturer's specifications...but not even close with 10000# GVW 3/4 ton trucks...I am not a weight police guy but for the small difference in price and the better towing specifications, I see no reason for the 3/4 ton trucks other than cheaper license plates...

After looking at the rig posted in your profile, the late model 1 ton SRW trucks will be plenty for your needs...as long as you load it properly...take it to the scales and you will see...

Regards