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THIS ONE? OR THAT ONE?

TGPILOT
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Okay, I have an older Honda 3000C with inverter, I've had it since about 2006 and I bought it used then. Except for firing it up now and then to make sure it would still run, I've never used it.

Now that I have another RV, I dug it out to use on my 5th Wheel. It run's the A/C, except today when we really needed it here in MT in the Glacier NP, it acted up some. It would run fine a few minutes, then cut back and drop off, then pick up again. Before I had to shut it down for the night it acted better but not happy.

The other day at Camping World they had the NEW Honda 3000 with inverter on sale for $2,200. I was tempted then, but since then I was wondering if the new one would work better being at least 15 years newer? I know a lot of guys are buying two 2K's and putting them together. I really don't want to go to that much trouble. I've looked at the Yamaha also, and even considered the Champion 3500/4000.

Yes, I know the Honda and the Yamaha are two of the quietest out there. How does the Champion stack up against them?

If I did replace the old Honda, what would you guys recommend. If the Honda or the Yamaha, which of them and should I stay with a 3000? Should the fifteen year newer Honda out preform my old one of the same size 3000?

Thanks for your input.

Tom
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TGPILOT
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Thanks for the input guys. I don't know why the 3000IS would not work. I am in a real nice RV park here in Moab for a few days, so still won't get to try the new 5000IS out, but it should handle it all now.

johndeerefarmer
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robert_at_honda wrote:
johndeerefarmer wrote:

Also what is the latest on the remote control for this unit?


No ETA on the remote start. I know Honda will likely have the parallel kit ready before the remote start is available.

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I work for Honda, but the preceding is my opinion alone.
Robert@Honda


Thanks.

I looked at the schematic and it does show a double pole breaker
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robert_at_honda
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johndeerefarmer wrote:

Also what is the latest on the remote control for this unit?


No ETA on the remote start. I know Honda will likely have the parallel kit ready before the remote start is available.

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I work for Honda, but the preceding is my opinion alone.
Robert@Honda

RustyJC
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As I read page 15 of the Owner's Manual, it appears to be 30 amps per leg. Otherwise, you'd never have the rated 22.9 amps per leg available as per page 38.

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johndeerefarmer
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So I just bought the EU7000is. I also bought the Camco 55422 PowerGrip 30Amp 4 Prong Locking Male to 50Amp Standard Female Generator Adapter.
When I place the switch in the 120V/240V position I should be able to get 22.9A from both 4A and 4B from receptacle #4 for a total of 45.8A.

So my question is- is the 30A circuit breaker for receptacle #4 a double pole breaker? In other words 30A protection for 4A and 4B or 30A total for the two?
If the latter is the case then how I am supposed to connect this generator to my RV's 50A cord to get the maximum 45.8 Amps from my new genny?

Also what is the latest on the remote control for this unit? The unit has been out for over a year and still no remote. Thanks
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TGPILOT
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TGPILOT
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Okay, left W. Yellowstone this morning and drove to Idaho Falls, ID and traded the new 3000IS in for a five thousand IS> This should take care of my problems as the dealer said that the 3000IS was barely putting out enough amps to run my rig.

Haven't had a chance to try it out, should have to night in a Wally World PL here in Springville, UT. Will probably get to tomorrow in Moab. Let you all know how the new big red box works.

jffnkrn
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well, not to beat a dead horse, but sure it is something that will be resolved soon. once done, add it to the knowledge, share with us what the issue was and we can add it too! Then let's get back to CAMPING!!!
GOOD LUCK & BE SAFE ! ! !

TGPILOT
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Yeah, I've got the various adapters, have shut off the fridge and hot water to propane, even switched off some braker's. Guess we will know tomorrow if I can get in the shop.

jffnkrn
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Double check all the load items. Don't forget if you have all your breakers on, a/c and water heater may not be able to run on just 30 amps. That is considering all the other items running. You say 50 amps. your cord and adapters will decrease the available amps as well. My 3000runs one 15000 btu a/c, converter/charger and most little things like TV, radio and such. so again, double check all the load. When we are dry camping, we run water heater on propane all the time. I also ordered a 30 amp male / 50 amp female cord for my unit as it eliminates a bunch of adapters. Good Luck & Be Safe ! ! !

TGPILOT
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Regarding the switch, been there, done that. Read the book cover to cover. When it goes into overload with only two elect. fans running off of it, something is wrong. Would not even run the microwave by it's self.

alboy
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There are two settings for the throttle ,Eco ,which is only good for small load and auto which should run most stuff,just flip the switch.

justafordguy
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jffnkrn wrote:
and there is red paint on it with a HONDA decal. maybe that makes it weigh more.


It has to be the red paint and decal.:B

Hey TGPILOT, I hate to hear about your new gen going out, hopefully they will get you a replacement ASAP.
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TGPILOT
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Well, got to Bakers Hole in W. Yellowstone first part of the week and a week after I bought the 3000IS. So, after having it a week I got to try it out. It started out okay, but after a few minutes it went into overload. I shut her off, reduced the load and tried again. After several tries, and going into overload I had it down to just the converter and a couple of fans. Still overload.

Called Honda, they told me nearest dealer was in Idaho Falls, ID a hundred miles away. Going there next week and they thought it could be the voltage regulator not working properly. We will find out.

The camp host was good enough to find me an open spot with elect. that afternoon, so we are in great shape with 50 amps. Thank God for small favors.

On another note, the Direct TV Kings quest travel dish that I bought in Kalispell has been working great, though here in the tall trees, I had to put her on the roof. No big deal. Will keep an update going.......

Been seeing a lot of wildlife in Tetons and Yellowstone. Four grizzly bears, numerous elk, buffalo and other wildlife. Great campground Bakers Hole.