Truck Question - duallie or single?

[irollman]

I'm considering purchasing a 5th wheel to replace my Class A. It would be a full-timer rig, so it won't be hauled a lot. But I'd end up using the truck as a daily driver, or mostly so. Looking to get a 1-ton, as I'm looking for a more comfy 5er, which means bigger.

So, would a rear end with single wheels do OK, or is that a real no no, and should I go duallie?

[BarneyS]

Yep - after taking out about 6 off topic posts, I agree with you. Thread closed.

[MFL]

About time to close this one ???

[transamz9]

Veebyes wrote:
I don't think that the issue is any difference in pulling ability between SRW & DRW. Both will pull just fine.

The difference is in stopping ability. The DRW has double rear rubber on the road & bigger brakes. Even that is a minor difference IMO. The huge difference is the stability that the DRW provides. All the add ons that people put on their SRW cannot compensate for the inherent stability that the extra width of the DRW.

My brakes are exactly the same as the DRW version om my truck. I DRW does not have double the rubber on the road. It has more rubber on the road on the back hence the higher capacity rating for the rear axle but it actually has less rubber on the road in the front. The extra width in the rear has nothing to do with how stable it feels going down the road unless the suspension was sitting bottomed out on the bump stops.

[Veebyes]

I don't think that the issue is any difference in pulling ability between SRW & DRW. Both will pull just fine.

The difference is in stopping ability. The DRW has double rear rubber on the road & bigger brakes. Even that is a minor difference IMO. The huge difference is the stability that the DRW provides. All the add ons that people put on their SRW cannot compensate for the inherent stability that the extra width of the DRW.

[transamz9]

BarneyS wrote:
Got it! Thanks. 🙂 . Kinda forgot you 5th wheel guys double tow now and then.
Barney

I double tow that weight 99% of the time.

[BarneyS]

Got it! Thanks. 🙂 . Kinda forgot you 5th wheel guys double tow now and then.
Barney

[Cummins12V98]

BarneyS wrote:

transamz9 wrote:


My 5er is 15-15.5k and my boat is 5k ( depending on fuel and live well load).

I thought you said 29k earlier. :h
Barney

That would add up to about 29k, including his truck.

[BarneyS]

transamz9 wrote:


My 5er is 15-15.5k and my boat is 5k ( depending on fuel and live well load).

I thought you said 29k earlier. :h
Barney

[transamz9]

rhagfo wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:


I agree!
No way a sway bar makes up for the extra four sidewalls of a DRW. I tow a 12,360# with a 2001 Ram 2500 with Camper package same rear springs and sway bar as DRW 3500. while I don't have an issue with this setup, we are looking newer and it will be a DRW. We are currently full time SP Hosting and move as often as once a month or as seldom as once every three months. Down the road we may get a larger 5er so a DRW will make travel more comfortable.

Dont sell yourself short bud. My SRW megacab is pretty dang comfy running down the road @ 29k

That is a a lot of weight on a single rear wheel. The 5er is between 18k and 20k so pin is between 3,600# and 5,000#, assuming about 3,200# empty 6,800# to 8,200# on your two rear tires. The high end is not pretty.

My 5er is 15-15.5k and my boat is 5k ( depending on fuel and live well load).

[Cummins12V98]

Me Again wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
I think the extra side walls of a dually are overrated. Try letting all the air out of your buddy's inner duals and see how long it takes him to notice his truck doesn't handle his trailer very well.

You do not have to "let" the air out. The valve extension are often noted as a leak point, similar to screw on TPMS senders and bolt in valve stems for trailer wheels.

Neither my 11 or 15 RAM’s have ever lost air from the extenders.

[rhagfo]

transamz9 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:


I agree!
No way a sway bar makes up for the extra four sidewalls of a DRW. I tow a 12,360# with a 2001 Ram 2500 with Camper package same rear springs and sway bar as DRW 3500. while I don't have an issue with this setup, we are looking newer and it will be a DRW. We are currently full time SP Hosting and move as often as once a month or as seldom as once every three months. Down the road we may get a larger 5er so a DRW will make travel more comfortable.

Dont sell yourself short bud. My SRW megacab is pretty dang comfy running down the road @ 29k

That is a a lot of weight on a single rear wheel. The 5er is between 18k and 20k so pin is between 3,600# and 5,000#, assuming about 3,200# empty 6,800# to 8,200# on your two rear tires. The high end is not pretty.

[Veebyes]

4x4ord wrote:
I think the extra side walls of a dually are overrated. Try letting all the air out of your buddy's inner duals and see how long it takes him to notice his truck doesn't handle his trailer very well.

Had that happen to me & I noticed something different quite quickly. There was a sway to the side of the deflated tire. Next stop I noticed that the outer tire was carrying much more load. Turned out that I had a valve failure on the inner tire.

Those with SRW think that having a dually is overrated. Those who have gone from a SRW to dually say they will never go back.

Many do the add ons to compensate for the SRWs. By the time some of them have finished they might as well have bought the DRW to begin with. That is not to say that DRW owners don't tinker also.

I have added Sulastic Shocks, which improve unloaded ride, & finally this year added Timbrens air bags, not really knowing if they would give an improvement to ride or not when loaded with the heavy 5er. They do. They minimise the big jolts & add even more stability in cornering.

[gsbrockman]

JIMNLIN wrote:
brockman has taken neals reply out of context.......

Not taken out of context at all.....

There seems to be a HUGE amount of opining without any FACTS being presented.

[Me_Again]

4x4ord wrote:
I think the extra side walls of a dually are overrated. Try letting all the air out of your buddy's inner duals and see how long it takes him to notice his truck doesn't handle his trailer very well.

You do not have to "let" the air out. The valve extension are often noted as a leak point, similar to screw on TPMS senders and bolt in valve stems for trailer wheels.