Ugh...too nose high?

[stro1965]

First tow with the new TV. How bad does it look?

[stro1965]

I have e-mailed photos of my suspension to a local machine shop that actually raises campers for my local dealership. I expect it to be painful. If it's too much, I may do it myself with parts from here:

Trailerblocks.com

[Shepherd]

I've had the same issues with 5ers. The Eagles were higher than the KZ and Dutchman 5ers with my 4x4 high trucks. I went with a 2" leveling kit for tuck which helped.You could alter the spring pack on the tow vehicle.:h

[Paul_Clancy]

It's all about style. Big wheel and tire packages and high sides. This is an issue people with lift kits have been dealing with for years. I like the looks of the new trucks but wouldn't appreciate having to get my new trailer lifted to fit. I'll bet manufacturers go back to using the adjustable suspension in trailers (jayco called thiers jake plate) as a sell feature.

[cummins2014]

kohai wrote:
I've got this same problem. I bought a brand new GMC truck (no lift) and a brand new Primetime Crusader. The front seems to be about 6" higher than the back of the trailer. After discussing this on the primetime forum, there was one additional recommendation that I haven't seen on this thread.

Primetime had a recall on one model 5th wheel and the fix was to install a 1" lift. Because of the concern of the additional pressures/torque on the frame, they also added one cross member to stiffen up the frame.

MOR/Ryde Performance Crossmembers X-factor

The Mor ryde website shows you can add up to 3 of these.

Here's the link to my thread on this subject.

Primetime forum thread

They are a great upgrade , I have them at all three positions, very easy to install, also to fabricate if one has the means.

[fj12ryder]

This seems to be a pretty common issue with a lot of new trucks, i.e. the height of the truck compared to older models.

I know the trucks look muy macho all jacked up in the air, but seriously what's the point of having that kind of height?

[shellbabbie]

Just went through this! Bought a new truck. Older (2007) camper did not fit with new big 2500 truck. Ended up buying a new camper to fit. Was not cost wise or safety wise to raise camper. Learned a hard lesson $50,000 dollars later....

[kohai]

I've got this same problem. I bought a brand new GMC truck (no lift) and a brand new Primetime Crusader. The front seems to be about 6" higher than the back of the trailer. After discussing this on the primetime forum, there was one additional recommendation that I haven't seen on this thread.

Primetime had a recall on one model 5th wheel and the fix was to install a 1" lift. Because of the concern of the additional pressures/torque on the frame, they also added one cross member to stiffen up the frame.

MOR/Ryde Performance Crossmembers X-factor

The Mor ryde website shows you can add up to 3 of these.

Here's the link to my thread on this subject.

Primetime forum thread

[Michelle_S]

Here's another suggestion, but not the cheapest although it might be the best and safest.
Make an appointment with Mor/ryde and have their IS system installed. They will totally remove the current axles and build up the frame area to achive level. First thing they do is measure to see how much they need to raise it to get level.

[Curly2001]

Lower the truck

[GPG52_]

I would not be comfortable towing at that angle. It would affect your tongue weight and weight distribution to both axles. Real experience... I once had a small tandem house trailer (17ft) pulled by Dodge Dakota. I traded the Dakota two door for a four door within a couple of year models apart, thinking that both would have the same ground clearance height. WRONG... I was nose high, not by much but enough. On our maiden a night trip from Buffalo to Washington I realized that both the rear springs had broken at the rear shackles due to improper weight distribution on the axles. NOTE TO SELF i) check and double check that you are properly hooked up (Measure and weight) ii) complete a 50 mile dry run around home before going on a long trip. GPG

[cummins2014]

Me Again wrote:
The concern of using spacer blocks is the torque applied to the springs and extended u-bolts under heavy braking. Look at the U-bolts and springs on the TV rear axles and compare that what you see under your trailer! Night and day difference! Good way to break a spring leaf or U-bolt.

Chris

Is this something you witnessed or had happen ? I do understand it gives everything a little more leverage for torque, but extending shackles seems to me just as bad. I guess the only good way is just cutting of the shackles ,and extending the frame down, and rewelding shackles ???

[Me_Again]

The concern of using spacer blocks is the torque applied to the springs and extended u-bolts under heavy braking. Look at the U-bolts and springs on the TV rear axles and compare that what you see under your trailer! Night and day difference! Good way to break a spring leaf or U-bolt.

Chris

[cummins2014]

stro1965 wrote:

tinner12002 wrote:
I had a similar look on my tri-axle toyhauler, I took some heavy wall square tubing the same width as my springs and made some spacers to go under my springs and on top of axle perch using longer u-bolts to raise mine up. Just like using lifting blocks in a truck lift kit. Works great! I feel my setup is much better, stronger, safer than longer shackles!

Gonna take a look at mine, this just might work.

Pretty sure this is what I am going to do, unless someone can say it is not a good idea, and why.

[stro1965]

tinner12002 wrote:
I had a similar look on my tri-axle toyhauler, I took some heavy wall square tubing the same width as my springs and made some spacers to go under my springs and on top of axle perch using longer u-bolts to raise mine up. Just like using lifting blocks in a truck lift kit. Works great! I feel my setup is much better, stronger, safer than longer shackles!

Gonna take a look at mine, this just might work.