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Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

juzplanekrazy
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I donโ€™t know if itโ€™s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
Iโ€™m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but Iโ€™m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
Iโ€™ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ยพ ton and up and Iโ€™ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Letโ€™s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we goโ€ฆโ€ฆ

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver โ€“ KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs
2021 Dodge Ram Longhorn 4x4 Dually
2019 KZ Durango Gold 371
B & W Companion 25K
859 REPLIES 859

DOtte
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2008 Ford SC dually, 34 ft Cedar Creek, 70 gals fuel, fully loaded, driver and passenger,22,990 just under CGVW

Gary7801
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I Don't know if this will simplify things or not, but on one of the RV Forums I belong to, a link was posted to a website strictly for weights on fifth wheels. The link is www.fifthwheelst.com

It definately helped me and if it can unconfuse me then hopefully it can help everyone. By the way, the above address is not a link so you will probobly have to type it into your address bar. Hope this helps.

Yooper20
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Just weighed the truck yesterday, my tubby carcass, full tank of fuel, hitch, and everything I normally carry in the truck plus a set of golf clubs for good measure. :B

Now I need to weigh the truck and trailer combo at some point.

The truck.
2006 F350 CC 6.0
Crew Cab 4x4 6.75ft bed

Came in at. 8160LBS
2006 350 SRW CC 6.0PSD Kind of stock
Autometer Z series guages
Tuned by Innovative Diesel Performance

1989 King Of The Road 28KRS

Camps_with_Crit
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Here is one to provoke thought:
My rig:
Truck full fuel & 2 persons 20,820 lb
Trailer full water & propane 23,540 lb (5,430 lb pin)
Smart Car on truck 1780 lb
Gross weight 46,140 lbs
All axles well below max weight and vehicles under GVWR & GCWR.
Please leave space if pulling out in front of me, if I hit you it will likely leave a mark!
05 Freightliner Century with Smart Car on the back
2010 Spacecraft 44.5 ft with a fully stocked bar-room
The Critters: Boogie & Jack (2 great dogs)

qbert10
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qbert10 wrote:
2010 Ram 3500 6.7 CTD 4x4 CCLB DRW. Myself and my 7 year old son in the cab with just short of a full tank of fuel. I will post again when I have the trailer and the truck together.

Steer Axle- 5040 lbs
Drive Axle- 3300 lbs
Gross - 8340 lbs

Truck GVW- 12200lbs


Finally got the truck and trailer on the scale yesterday on the way home from a camping trip.

Steer Axle- 5040 lbs, no change from empty.
Drive Axle- 5560 lbs
Trailer Axle- 7900 lbs
GCW- 18500 lbs

This was with me and about the same amount of fuel as the empty weigh, but my 77 lbs son was not in the truck. Also, the empty weight did not include my hitch.

Empty ticket.


With trailer

Will-
Self and Spouse
2 children
2 dogs: Mya, Lab/ Catahoula Mix, Roxi, ACD, Bully Mix.
2014 Dodge 3500 CCLB DRW 6.7 CTD, Aisin Automatic, 4x4, Max Steel Metallic , Soon to have a B&W 3600.
2009 Jayco 31.5FBHS

Camphouse
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2003 Ford F150 4X4 Supercab 5.4L, with heavy payload package (also known as a F250LD), GVWR 7,700 lb GCWR 13,500 lb

Weighed with full load of fuel, hitch, me, wife, two kids 14 & 9, plus dog.

Front Axle 3440 lb (4150 GAWR)
Rear Axle 2880 lb (4800 GAWR)
Total Truck weight 6320 lb

With 2008 KZ Outdoorsmen 2455P, lightly packed for weekend camping with food, clothes, full propane, liquid tanks empty. Trailer GVWR 7000 lb

Front Axle 3500 lb
Rear Axle 4160 lb
Total Truck Weight 7660 (just under GVWR)

Trailer, Both Axles 5200 lb

Therefore:
Pin Weight = 1340 lb
Total Trailer Weight = 6540 lb

Total GCW = 12860
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB 6.6L D/A
2008 KZ Outdoorsmen 2455P bunkhouse

DW-gray
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dezldog1 wrote:
I am so darn confused. I for the life of me cannot seem to figure out how much over weight we are for our TV ??
Please if anyone out there could give me some idea of where we stand I would be ever so grateful. I have a headache from trying to figure it out. I read all the posts and I am still too stupid to get it. Took the truck out to weigh with full fuel and me.
This is what I got at the CAT scale.

Steer Axle 4720 #
Drive Axle 3460 #
Gross weight 8180 #

Went back and weighed with 5er partially ready to go. No food or clothes yet.

Steer Axle 4800 #
Drive Axle 5820 #
Trailer Axle 9940 #
Gross weight 20560 #

Thnx All
Jo


I know how you feel Jo. I suggest you check out the following website. I think it will help you make sense of it all.

http://FifthWheelSt.com
Dave Gray

RV Safety Educator & Consultant

08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012

dezldog1
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I am so darn confused. I for the life of me cannot seem to figure out how much over weight we are for our TV ??
Please if anyone out there could give me some idea of where we stand I would be ever so grateful. I have a headache from trying to figure it out. I read all the posts and I am still too stupid to get it. Took the truck out to weigh with full fuel and me.
This is what I got at the CAT scale.

Steer Axle 4720 #
Drive Axle 3460 #
Gross weight 8180 #

Went back and weighed with 5er partially ready to go. No food or clothes yet.

Steer Axle 4800 #
Drive Axle 5820 #
Trailer Axle 9940 #
Gross weight 20560 #

Thnx All
Jo

SanMarMor
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Loads when weighed.

Truck, half fuel, hitch, a box of firewood and me.
Trailer, full fresh water, no food or clothes or misc trip items.

Truck only w/ trailer hitched = 10260
Truck only, unhitched = 8060
Calculated pin weight = 2200

Trailer only while hitched = 8820
Trailer only unhitched = 11100
Calculated pin weight = 2280

20% of 11100 trailer weight = 2220
2007.5 Chevy 3500HD Crew DMax Dually 4x4 w/ Curt Q5 20K Hitch
2011 Sabre 31RETS-6 w/ TrailAir Pin

44 nights in 2013, 37 nights in 2014, 27 nights in 2015, 29 nights in 2016
34 nights in 2017, 27 in 2018

http://camping.morrises.com/

96Brigadier
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2010 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab Laramie, 6.7L CTD, SRW, GVWR 10,100 lb GCWR 21,000 lb

Weighed with full load of diesel, hitch, me, wife, two daughters 5 & 6.

Front Axle 4,972 lb
Rear Axle 3,476 lb
Total Truck weight 8,448 lb

With Keystone Cougar 293 SAB, packing for camping MINUS food, clothes, tanks empty, Trailer GVWR 11,535 lb

Front Axle 5,038 lb
Rear Axle 5,038 lb (yes, they came out identical, not a typo)
Total Truck Weight 10,076 (just under GVWR)

Trailer, Both Axles 7,722 lb

Therefore:
Pin Weight = 1,562 lb
Total Trailer Weight = 9,284 lb

Total GCW = 17,798
2010 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 Megacab Laramie, 6.7L CTD
Truck weight 8,448 lbs with hitch, wife, two kids, full load of diesel
2010 Keystone Cougar 293SAB
Pin Weight 1,800 lb, Trailer Weight 10,700 lb
(Loaded for camping w/ full water tank)

pablkb
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2006 Dodge 4x4 automatic 4 dr.
91 Gal aux. fuel Tank (full)
Companion 5th hitch
2010 Jayco Eagle 351RLSA
All loaded w/ 2 passengers

Truck front axle 4780
Truck rear axle 6080
Trailer combined Axles 10,100
GCVW 21,780 (Loaded)

Truck GVW 9,000 full of fuel
Camper GVW 10,320 dry (New off LOT)

REWahoo
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sirdrakejr wrote:
I think we have reached a conclusion and now let this thread continue on the original intent of what are the real weights of your truck.
:B
Frank


Please. I thought for a while I was posting in an old episode of "The Twilight Zone".

Rod ๐Ÿ™‚
2011 Silverado 2500HD LTZ Duramax 4x4
2007 Jayco Eagle 291RLTS (trade in)
2017 Jayco Eagle HT 27.5RLTS

sirdrakejr
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I think we have reached a conclusion and now let this thread continue on the original intent of what are the real weights of your truck.
:B
Frank
2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.

DW-gray
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Frank and others,

I'm sorry. Now you can refer to me as that idiot Dave. Just as I sat down in church this morning, my error flashed in my brain like a neon sign. To make me feel worse, the pastor preached at me. Boy I wanted to leave right then to delete my comment.

That's the trouble I get into sometimes when I'm in a hurry and writing on 3 different topics on 2 forums. A real case of brain fart.
Dave Gray

RV Safety Educator & Consultant

08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012

Tireman9
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DW-gray wrote:


GVWR will always be more the combined weight of the front and rear GAWR. I've never seen the combined weight of the front and rear GAWR more than the GVWR

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I believe the correct statement is

GVWR will always be LESS than the total weight of the front and rear GAWR. I've never seen the combined weight of the front and rear GAWR LESS than the GVWR
40 years experience as tire Design & Quality engineer with focus on failed tire forensics.