Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[Cummins12V98]

tomthyme wrote:
Hello folks!
On a recent trip DFW to Colorado we finally weighed our rig. It was fully loaded, water, fuel, critters and humans and not too surprisingly we look like we are over weight....

I have a 2004 F350 dually which looks like the manufacturer spec sheet says the 5the wheel towing capacity is 14200. Based on the numbers from the door frame, I look ok, but from the specs I can find, I could be as much as 6k# over the GCVWR. From what I can find, the GCVWR for the truck is 20k#.

I only took one weight as there was a line and we wanted to move along, so I didn't weigh the rig by itself. I simply pulled onto the three scale system and got the following.

Capacity on truck door frame
Front 5200
Rear 8250
GVW 11500

Actual CAT scales weight
Front 5200
Rear 7680
Trailer 13420
Gross weight 26300

We are seriously considering a truck upgrade as there is no way we can shave enough weight to get in spec...that is assuming of course that we really are over weight.

Any thoughts here?

Thanks so much!
Tom

You are at or under your axle weights on your TV. Does the truck handle the load well? If so enjoy the ride.

[tomthyme]

Hello folks!
On a recent trip DFW to Colorado we finally weighed our rig. It was fully loaded, water, fuel, critters and humans and not too surprisingly we look like we are over weight....

I have a 2004 F350 dually which looks like the manufacturer spec sheet says the 5the wheel towing capacity is 14200. Based on the numbers from the door frame, I look ok, but from the specs I can find, I could be as much as 6k# over the GCVWR. From what I can find, the GCVWR for the truck is 20k#.

I only took one weight as there was a line and we wanted to move along, so I didn't weigh the rig by itself. I simply pulled onto the three scale system and got the following.

Capacity on truck door frame
Front 5200
Rear 8250
GVW 11500

Actual CAT scales weight
Front 5200
Rear 7680
Trailer 13420
Gross weight 26300

We are seriously considering a truck upgrade as there is no way we can shave enough weight to get in spec...that is assuming of course that we really are over weight.

Any thoughts here?

Thanks so much!
Tom

[Goostoff]

weighed mine on the way home last week. Truck and trailer are listed in my sig below. I didnt go through the hassle of unhooking the trailer either. Just ran across the scale and got a weight. all tanks were empty including fuel tank. and just me in the truck and the dog in the trailer.

Truck with trailer hooked up. : 8740lbs.

truck and trailer combined : 18840

Never weighed just the trailer axles cause I was too lazy to get out and walk back to read the scales

[mackyb]

2015 Spartan 1032 toy hauler with Trail Air pin box added
2013 GMC Denali 2500, 4WD, 3.73, Duramax, air bags, 24500# GCWR
Steer axle = 4800#
Drive axle = 6400#
Trailer axle = 10720#
Gross weight of truck & trailer = 21920# (weight did not include toys in garage, water, gas in fuel station)
Truck weight = 8300#

[anaro]

Ok so here are today's weights. These are with a full tank of fuel, family in the TV and trailer loaded up with everything except food.

2014 Chevy Silverado 3500 (crew cab 4x4 duramax long bed LT package)
Truck specs
Gvwr 11,600 lbs
GCWR 24,500 lbs
GFAWR 5600 lbs
GRAWR 7050 lbs

Truck no trailer (reese 16k hitch in bed)--
Front axle 4900 lbs
Rear axle 3380 lbs
Total truck weight 8280 lbs
Available payload - 3320 lbs
Adjusted towing capacity- 16220 per numbers but manufacturer lists 16000 as my max so we will call it that.

Truck with 2014 Palomino Sabre 34REQS-6 attached
Front axle 4900 lbs
Rear axle 6000 lbs
Trailer 9760 lbs
Total combined weight 20,660 lbs

It looks like I have a 5er weight of 12,380 lbs and it looks like my pin weight is 2620 lbs. So I'm well within specs.:C

[afishinado]

06 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab diesel 7900 truck, two occupants full fuel.
06 KZ Sportsman 37 Toy Hauler, about 1/2 water & waste filled, two Harleys in the garage; 3480lbs pin weight 13040lbs on the trailer axles

[NC_Hauler]

NancyLong wrote:
Hi guys,
Its very good to read all of your post.As far as my opinion is concern a truck weight include the Total weight of truck + its load.The most important thing is that what capacity of your truck and how its tire rotation and gear system.

Don't quiet understand what you're saying:h Truck weight plus what it's towing is Gross combined weight.What a lot report in here. Tire rotatation is nice, but doesn't really have anything to do with what one tows, GVWR, GCWR, RAWR or FAWR does matter....though what TIRES you have on the TV also matters...As far as transmissions, I still go by a trucks GVWR, GCWR, RAWR and FAWR...figure the tranny will take care of itself

[NancyLong]

Hi guys,
Its very good to read all of your post.As far as my opinion is concern a truck weight include the Total weight of truck + its load.The most important thing is that what capacity of your truck and how its tire rotation and gear system.

[Radarman68]

Thought I would post my weights here. I recently had a blowout and that led me to doing a lot of reading on weights, loads, limits, tires, etc. Here are my results:

1995 F250 with 1 ton axles swapped in. 4X4, extended cab, long bed, diesel, 4 inch lift, 35 inch tires, 5 speed.
Front GAWR 4600 (with stock axle)
Rear GAWR 6084
GVWR 8800
GCWR 14,500/17,000 (3.55/4.10)


2005 Wilderness 305RLDS AX6. 9650 manufacture empty weight.

Below weights are with me in the cab, half tank of fuel, holding tanks empty, loaded with all our other gear.

Empty truck with half tank of fuel
Front axle 4100
Rear axle 3000
Both axles 7100

Trailer and truck:
Truck front axle 4150
Truck rear axle 4800
Truck both axles 9000
Trailer front axle 4350
Trailer rear axle 4350
(Trailer roadside 4300)
(Trailer curbside 4500)
Trailer both axles 9050

Total trailer 10800 (disconnected from truck)
Total weight truck and trailer 18050*
Pin weight 1900*

Looks like the scale had some variance, but its close enough for my purposes. (*) denotes calculated value versus scale value.

[gandmrv]

2009 Ford F-350 SD SRW Crew Cab Lariat FX-4 4x4,6.4 PS
WT 8580 lb
GVW 11400 lb
GCVW 24600 lb
Max 5th Wheel trailer wt 15300 lb
Truck, no trailer w/full fuel
F Axle 5200
R Axle 3380
Gross 8580

Hooked up to 3450TS Bristol Bay
Camper as delivered 11370
Camper max gvw 15000
Camper as loaded 13740

Truck and camper
Truck F Axle 5300
Truck R Axle 6620
Trailer Axle 10400
GCVW 22320

Wt. On Pin 3240

[SmittysRV]

sidney wrote:
What happened to your rubber roof?

Ya it does look strange in that pic. Must be the angle or poor quality cell phone pic....

this one is better..

[sidney]

What happened to your rubber roof?

[SmittysRV]

NC Hauler wrote:

SmittysRV wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:
Weighed my truck 10\14\13...truck had hitch in it, toolbox, full tank of fuel and full tank of DEF..just me though, steer axle was 5280 (rated at 6,000#), my drive axle was 3860#, (rated at 9750#)..Gross weight was 9140# (GVWR is 14,000#).

Weighed my whole combo 3/5/14. Full tank of fuel, full DEF tank, me, wife, two boxers, tool box a tad more loaded and 5er loaded almost as full as if we would be gone a week...all tanks empty, cept black water probably had 10 gallons or so in it and 2 5# bags of ice to slosh around in the tank while driving from Asheville NC to Seviereville TN..

I digressed....front axle was 5460# (again, rated at 6,000#
Drive axle was 7200# (before it was 3860), which gives me a pin weight of 3340# .

My Gross weight was 12,660 (truck plus pin weight) which is 1,340# under my trucks GVWR.)..Drive axle weight of 7200# put my truck 2550# under my RAWR of 9750#, (based on tires and psi).

My trailer axle , 12,580# and pin weight 3340#, put weight of my 5er @ 15,920#, (has a GVW of 16,900#)...Didn't have my generator.

Total weight of combo was 25,240#....trucks GCWR is 37,600#.
Anyway, all these weights were taken on CAT scales.

You are too far from your limits! A larger RV is in order.

thinking....thinking...thinking....:)

Got any pics? Whats the Tow Vehicle?

If you're asking me what my TV is, it's a 2013 Ram 3500 Crew cab/long bed/4X4/ with 4:10 and Aisin tranny in Laramie Longhorn trim...

Yeah, I had some pics of the truck, Rick showed them on here once, I'm picture posting challenged:).....Next time I hook the truck up to my 5er I'll try to post pics.

Gotta love that high GCWR the Dodge offers. My 06 F550 is rated at 17950 GVWR and 33K GCWR. Granted mine is 8 years old but she still does the job. I dont have the numbers from the scale on the truck by it self but here are the numbers when hooked to our 5er with no water, no fuel, no toys, no gear or clothes. It had all the odds and ends that stay in there like, bedding, extra Honda gen, pots and pans and some can food.

Front axle - 5240
Rear axle - 7820
5er axles - 12680 (Triple axle)
Grand total- 25740

I want to hit the scales when loaded down for a trip some tiime. Im sure I will be pretty close to my GCWR.....

[NC_Hauler]

SmittysRV wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:
Weighed my truck 10\14\13...truck had hitch in it, toolbox, full tank of fuel and full tank of DEF..just me though, steer axle was 5280 (rated at 6,000#), my drive axle was 3860#, (rated at 9750#)..Gross weight was 9140# (GVWR is 14,000#).

Weighed my whole combo 3/5/14. Full tank of fuel, full DEF tank, me, wife, two boxers, tool box a tad more loaded and 5er loaded almost as full as if we would be gone a week...all tanks empty, cept black water probably had 10 gallons or so in it and 2 5# bags of ice to slosh around in the tank while driving from Asheville NC to Seviereville TN..

I digressed....front axle was 5460# (again, rated at 6,000#
Drive axle was 7200# (before it was 3860), which gives me a pin weight of 3340# .

My Gross weight was 12,660 (truck plus pin weight) which is 1,340# under my trucks GVWR.)..Drive axle weight of 7200# put my truck 2550# under my RAWR of 9750#, (based on tires and psi).

My trailer axle , 12,580# and pin weight 3340#, put weight of my 5er @ 15,920#, (has a GVW of 16,900#)...Didn't have my generator.

Total weight of combo was 25,240#....trucks GCWR is 37,600#.
Anyway, all these weights were taken on CAT scales.

You are too far from your limits! A larger RV is in order.

thinking....thinking...thinking....:)

Got any pics? Whats the Tow Vehicle?

If you're asking me what my TV is, it's a 2013 Ram 3500 Crew cab/long bed/4X4/ with 4:10 and Aisin tranny in Laramie Longhorn trim...

Yeah, I had some pics of the truck, Rick showed them on here once, I'm picture posting challenged:).....Next time I hook the truck up to my 5er I'll try to post pics.

[SmittysRV]

NC Hauler wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:
Weighed my truck 10\14\13...truck had hitch in it, toolbox, full tank of fuel and full tank of DEF..just me though, steer axle was 5280 (rated at 6,000#), my drive axle was 3860#, (rated at 9750#)..Gross weight was 9140# (GVWR is 14,000#).

Weighed my whole combo 3/5/14. Full tank of fuel, full DEF tank, me, wife, two boxers, tool box a tad more loaded and 5er loaded almost as full as if we would be gone a week...all tanks empty, cept black water probably had 10 gallons or so in it and 2 5# bags of ice to slosh around in the tank while driving from Asheville NC to Seviereville TN..

I digressed....front axle was 5460# (again, rated at 6,000#
Drive axle was 7200# (before it was 3860), which gives me a pin weight of 3340# .

My Gross weight was 12,660 (truck plus pin weight) which is 1,340# under my trucks GVWR.)..Drive axle weight of 7200# put my truck 2550# under my RAWR of 9750#, (based on tires and psi).

My trailer axle , 12,580# and pin weight 3340#, put weight of my 5er @ 15,920#, (has a GVW of 16,900#)...Didn't have my generator.

Total weight of combo was 25,240#....trucks GCWR is 37,600#.
Anyway, all these weights were taken on CAT scales.

You are too far from your limits! A larger RV is in order.

thinking....thinking...thinking....:)

Got any pics? Whats the Tow Vehicle?