Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

[juzplanekrazy]

I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs

[Cummins12V98]

Good call on the dually!

[Brokedown]

Nice Setup!

[TexasRedNeck]

Here's mine fresh from CAT scale

TV - 2013 GMC K3500 SLT CC/LB, B&W turnball and companion, RDS 60 Gal Aux tank and tool box, fully fueled in both tanks, no passengers: 8900 total, 4780 steer, 4120 drive.

Trailer: 2013 CC Siverback 37BH (sticker lists dry as 12709 Gross 15500)actual, ready to camp without water: 13840

Combined: steer 4800, Drive 6340, trailer 11620 for total of 22760 and pin of 2220

TV GVWR 13025, GAWR Frt 5600, GAWR Rear 9375

[SmittysRV]

Sundance07 wrote:


SmittysRV

Here's another pic.......

As DW-gray mentioned, details are in my sig 3 posts up.

Copy that, Looks sweet!! I dont see anything on post three in a signature. I did find the info when I go to your profile... Must be some setting on my computer that doesnt show signatures o the threads??

[Sundance07]

12,300

[Glen_Schumann]

Sundance07 wrote:
OK here goes....

Truck

Steer 4906
Drive 3828
Total 8734

Truck with 5er (full water)

Steer 5170
Drive 6380
Trailer 12364
Total 23914 GCWR 28000

Truck+pin wt(2816) 11550 GVW 12300
Trailer+pin wt(2816) 15180 GVW 15500

What is the truck's GVWR?

[Sundance07]

SmittysRV

Here's another pic.......

As DW-gray mentioned, details are in my sig 3 posts up.

[DW-gray]

SmittysRV wrote:

Sundance07 wrote:
OK here goes....

Truck

Steer 4906
Drive 3828
Total 8734

Truck with 5er (full water)

Steer 5170
Drive 6380
Trailer 12364
Total 23914 GCWR 28000

Truck+pin wt(2816) 11550 GVW 12300
Trailer+pin wt(2816) 15180 GVW 15500

What kinda truck and what trailer? Do you have pics?

You could just look at Sundance07's signature box just below his OP for your answer.

[SmittysRV]

Sundance07 wrote:
OK here goes....

Truck

Steer 4906
Drive 3828
Total 8734

Truck with 5er (full water)

Steer 5170
Drive 6380
Trailer 12364
Total 23914 GCWR 28000

Truck+pin wt(2816) 11550 GVW 12300
Trailer+pin wt(2816) 15180 GVW 15500

What kinda truck and what trailer? Do you have pics?

[Sundance07]

OK here goes....

Truck

Steer 4906
Drive 3828
Total 8734

Truck with 5er (full water)

Steer 5170
Drive 6380
Trailer 12364
Total 23914 GCWR 28000

Truck+pin wt(2816) 11550 GVW 12300
Trailer+pin wt(2816) 15180 GVW 15500

[ependydad]

Tireman9 wrote:

ependydad wrote:
TV: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 DRW w/ 4.10 gears
Camper: Early model-year 2013 Sabre 36QBOK

Weighing just prior to a 3-week trip (2 weeks camping, 1 week at a beach house). I had just filled both propane tanks and was carrying my usual 1/3-1/2 tank of freshwater as well as carrying our usual/quite a bit of drinking water (2 cases of bottled water and 7.5 gallons in jugs).


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Totals:
Truck Weight when Hitched Up:
5,300 + 6,660 + 75 = 12,035 pounds (GVWR: 12,300)

Pin Weight:
(5,300 + 6,600) - 9,420 = 2,540 pounds

Camper Weight:
12,280 + 2,540 = 14,820 pounds (GVWR: 15,825 pounds)

Pin Weight Percentage:
2,540 / 14,820 = 17%

Gross Combined Weight:
24,240 pounds (GCWR: 28,000 pounds)

Length over all: 58 1/2'

I note you didn't mention your tire size & LR. Am I correct to assume ST235/85R16 LR-E ?
Also that you set to 80 psi cold each morning of travel.

and that the load split Axle to axle is 46/54 or better

and side to side on heavy axle is 46/54 or better?

Yes, you're correct on tire size + load range- ST235/85R16 LR-E. I started with Akuret tires, but a nail and a gnarly bubble changed that on us. I'm now running on Maxxis tires. I do air up to 80psi before leaving for a trip (I'm lax and don't do it each morning). However, according to the Maxxis Load/Tire Inflation table, I only need 65psi.

I didn't weigh the trailer axles separately this time, but I did earlier this year. They were almost identically split (then at 5820 and 5800). See here.

Unfortunately, I don't have side-to-side weights. None of the CAT scales that I've been to have had the room to do them. And, both have had truck traffic before and after me, so I didn't want to gum up the works. If I was even close to one of the RV Safety locations, I'd gladly get individual tire weights.

[Tireman9]

ependydad wrote:
TV: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 DRW w/ 4.10 gears
Camper: Early model-year 2013 Sabre 36QBOK

Weighing just prior to a 3-week trip (2 weeks camping, 1 week at a beach house). I had just filled both propane tanks and was carrying my usual 1/3-1/2 tank of freshwater as well as carrying our usual/quite a bit of drinking water (2 cases of bottled water and 7.5 gallons in jugs).


snip

Totals:
Truck Weight when Hitched Up:
5,300 + 6,660 + 75 = 12,035 pounds (GVWR: 12,300)

Pin Weight:
(5,300 + 6,600) - 9,420 = 2,540 pounds

Camper Weight:
12,280 + 2,540 = 14,820 pounds (GVWR: 15,825 pounds)

Pin Weight Percentage:
2,540 / 14,820 = 17%

Gross Combined Weight:
24,240 pounds (GCWR: 28,000 pounds)

Length over all: 58 1/2'

I note you didn't mention your tire size & LR. Am I correct to assume ST235/85R16 LR-E ?
Also that you set to 80 psi cold each morning of travel.

and that the load split Axle to axle is 46/54 or better

and side to side on heavy axle is 46/54 or better?

[ependydad]

TV: 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 DRW w/ 4.10 gears
Camper: Early model-year 2013 Sabre 36QBOK

Weighing just prior to a 3-week trip (2 weeks camping, 1 week at a beach house). I had just filled both propane tanks and was carrying my usual 1/3-1/2 tank of freshwater as well as carrying our usual/quite a bit of drinking water (2 cases of bottled water and 7.5 gallons in jugs).

In the truck, we had myself, my wife, her mother and 2 kids (9 and 1). The truck bed was pretty full with beach stuff, EZ-up and my ladder:


The tickets:




Totals:
Truck Weight when Hitched Up:
5,300 + 6,660 + 75 = 12,035 pounds (GVWR: 12,300)

Pin Weight:
(5,300 + 6,600) - 9,420 = 2,540 pounds

Camper Weight:
12,280 + 2,540 = 14,820 pounds (GVWR: 15,825 pounds)

Pin Weight Percentage:
2,540 / 14,820 = 17%

Gross Combined Weight:
24,240 pounds (GCWR: 28,000 pounds)

Length over all: 58 1/2'

[GPG52_]

2006 Dodge Ram 1500 Mega Cab, 5.7 Hemy, 3.73 ratio
2010 KZ Durango 275 fifth wheel

Tow Vehicle TV
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating GVWR 8,510 lbs
Payload 1,981 lbs
Actual Pin Weight 1,320 18%
Dry Weight Empty Weight n/a
Wet Weight Fuel, driver 7,320 lbs
Cub Weight No personal gear GCW 7,020 lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating GAWR Steering 5,200; Drive 6,010lbs
Length Overall LOA 16" 0'

5th WHEEL COACH RV
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating GVWR 8,800 lbs
Axle Weight Rating AWR 1st 4,400,2nd 4,400
Curb Weight Empty Weight GCW 6,890 lbs
Wet Weight water, LP GAS 7,240 lbs
Payload 350 lbs
Gross Axle Weight Rating Loaded GAWR 1st 3,540, 2nd 3,700
Length Overall LOA 29' 4"

COMBINED
Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating 17,310 lbs
Actual Gross Comb. Vehicle Weight Rating GCWR14,560 lbs
Length Overall LOA 44' 10"

[JohnBoyToo]

NOT a fair comparison between srw and drw as far as sway bar needed or not...

mine is srw and it wasn't NEEDED, just that I like it to handle corners better and from experience a sway bar makes your vehicle feel more 'planted'...
(but then you need to make sure everything is tied down better so it won't go sliding across the dash on those faster turns 🙂 )

I've done sway bars on sports cars AND trucks - just personal preference that I like the handling improvements !