yeah, tires again

[3_dog_nights]

I DID look at the search option, 21,000+ post, 4,200 under 5th wheel.

had a blow out on my china bombs and decided to replace all 4. Looking around, my size was only available in the Marathon which I understand is now made in china as well. What is recommended to replace ST235/80 R16 ?
(3300# @ 80 cold PSI) Hearing G-614's but they don't make that size.

[RustyJC]

My experience with the Goodyear G614 RST would tend to confirm that a major design change was made circa 2007. Our 2004 Mobile Suites 36RE3 came factory equipped with the G614s. In 2007, with the G614s 3 years old, we lost 2 tires to tread separations within a 3 month period (August & October); the 2nd failure did >$2500 damage to the 5th wheel. Goodyear replaced the first tire which did no appreciable damage when it failed. Goodyear replaced all remaining tires after the 2nd failure and paid to repair the damage to the 5th wheel.

The replacement G614s ran with no problems until July 2010 when I replaced them with 17.5" Michelin XTAs. Were they on the verge of failure at 3 years old like the first set? I don't know (in retrospect, based on the experience of others, I doubt it), but we were making a trip to Arizona in 100+ degF temperatures, and I didn't want to take a chance of any tire failures.

Based on my experience with the 2nd set of G614s, I don't have any problem recommending them to other 5th wheel owners.

Rusty

[tinner12002]

I run the Maxxis M8008 with very good luck.

[cummins2014]

ZOSO wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

3 dog nights wrote:
just curious and will probably be disappointed, but how much did you spend for a set of G-614's? I got all 4 mounted, balanced and out the door for $1200. I know better than to keep shopping after I've bought but.... curiosity always gets me.

That is a GOOD price!

Thats a terrible price for a questionable tire compared to a Sailun S637 , which are just half the price of a G614 , and again arguably a S637 are a more dependable tire. It just seems crazy to pay the outrageous price they are getting for a G614, but it does make sense because you are having to pay that extra for the insurance they want so they can fix the damaged trailers . It makes a lot more sense to buy a tire you don't need to pay for insurance.

Complete nonsense! Run the G14's on all rigs past and present. NEVER A PROBLEM. Great tire. Mind you, I do keep proper inflation, do a visual at every stop while in travel, keep tires covered when parked any length of time and never use Armor All. You know, proper care. Look after your good quality tires, rated for your demands and they will look after you.

Complete nonsense, not hardly. , As I said there has always been the if factor with the G614's, I know how to take care of tires, and have taken care of my G614's, but quality is quality , and if its lacking somewhere there will be failures, and the G614's have had more then their share of failures . Its a fact like it or not.

The complete nonsense is in thinking because you have had no problems others will have the same success .

[cummins2014]

JIMNLIN wrote:

Thats a terrible price for a questionable tire compared to a Sailun S637 , which are just half the price of a G614 , and again arguably a S637 are a more dependable tire. It just seems crazy to pay the outrageous price they are getting for a G614, but it does make sense because you are having to pay that extra for the insurance they want so they can fix the damaged trailers . It makes a lot more sense to buy a tire you don't need to pay for insurance.

Complete nonsense! Run the G14's on all rigs past and present. NEVER A PROBLEM. Great tire.

Actually on the many different trailering web forums in the late '90s and up to the late '00s era the G614's RST had a terrible reputation that rivaled a ST tire for reliability issues. To Goodyears credit they made a redo on the G614 RST sometime around the late '00s time frame. Seems to have worked as we don't see as many G614 RST failures reported when looking at the many RV and non RV trailer web forums.

Lots of hype for Goodyear honoring G614 warranty on this forum. On other web forums its just the opposite.

The Sailun S637 hasn't been on the market long enough to see how its going to last long term but with no reported structural failures reported from all type of trailer forums it may be a winner.
Operators on a couple of commercial forums have reported they are on the 2nd/3rd sets. Some of these folks will run 75k - 100k miles a year and use two sets a year.
Rv trailers sit most of the time so 5-7 years should tell the tale.

I agree the G614's have been doing better, but there is still the failures . I too am running the G614's, bought them in the spring of 2010, been an excellent tire for me, but I am no where near their max rating. They were far from being as high priced as they are now. Being that they will be six years old next spring, I will look pretty hard at the Sailun S637 . That gives them nearly another year under their belt as far as dependability. We will see if they are still getting the excellent reports they are getting now.

Its far from complete nonsense , and no one should discount the many reported failures of the G614's. Granted in most applications they are going to perform okay, but that still have that if factor about them.

[Cummins12V98]

ZOSO wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

3 dog nights wrote:
just curious and will probably be disappointed, but how much did you spend for a set of G-614's? I got all 4 mounted, balanced and out the door for $1200. I know better than to keep shopping after I've bought but.... curiosity always gets me.

That is a GOOD price!

Thats a terrible price for a questionable tire compared to a Sailun S637 , which are just half the price of a G614 , and again arguably a S637 are a more dependable tire. It just seems crazy to pay the outrageous price they are getting for a G614, but it does make sense because you are having to pay that extra for the insurance they want so they can fix the damaged trailers . It makes a lot more sense to buy a tire you don't need to pay for insurance.

Complete nonsense! Run the G14's on all rigs past and present. NEVER A PROBLEM. Great tire. Mind you, I do keep proper inflation, do a visual at every stop while in travel, keep tires covered when parked any length of time and never use Armor All. You know, proper care. Look after your good quality tires, rated for your demands and they will look after you.

I know what works and so do you! I agree the GY's had problems in the late 90's to about early 07. I know for a FACT since it was my Dad that this happened to not just some internet story, his 96 HH Premier came with GY "G" tires and he had three blowouts until he bought a set that were dated 07 from that point never a problem. He puts thousands of miles on a year as I do.

As far as GY taking care of their customers he turned in pictures and a bill each time and no questions asked they paid the bill and gave him a new tire.

GY's policy is if it's "road hazard" they won't pay but for anything else they will.

The tires that came on my 07.5 MS were dated around may 07 the spare never hit the ground. I upgraded the tires and wheels in 2012 to GY "H" 17.5's and those tires were trouble free for thousands of miles.

My money, my choice I will always run GY tires on my RV's unless they start failing. I like Michelins and BFG's for my trucks.

Personally I have not read about a GY "G" or "H" failure for a LONG time!

I am so confident in them I don't WASTE my money on tire monitors. That is my choice also.

The Sailun sounds like it has been good so far but I would rather spend my money here when possible and for the BEST quality product.

See you can give an opinion without snide remarks or even name calling 😉

[JIMNLIN]

Thats a terrible price for a questionable tire compared to a Sailun S637 , which are just half the price of a G614 , and again arguably a S637 are a more dependable tire. It just seems crazy to pay the outrageous price they are getting for a G614, but it does make sense because you are having to pay that extra for the insurance they want so they can fix the damaged trailers . It makes a lot more sense to buy a tire you don't need to pay for insurance.

Complete nonsense! Run the G14's on all rigs past and present. NEVER A PROBLEM. Great tire.

Actually on the many different trailering web forums in the late '90s and up to the late '00s era the G614's RST had a terrible reputation that rivaled a ST tire for reliability issues. To Goodyears credit they made a redo on the G614 RST sometime around the late '00s time frame. Seems to have worked as we don't see as many G614 RST failures reported when looking at the many RV and non RV trailer web forums.

Lots of hype for Goodyear honoring G614 warranty on this forum. On other web forums its just the opposite.

The Sailun S637 hasn't been on the market long enough to see how its going to last long term but with no reported structural failures reported from all type of trailer forums it may be a winner.
Operators on a couple of commercial forums have reported they are on the 2nd/3rd sets. Some of these folks will run 75k - 100k miles a year and use two sets a year.
Rv trailers sit most of the time so 5-7 years should tell the tale.

[ZOSO]

up2nogood wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

3 dog nights wrote:
just curious and will probably be disappointed, but how much did you spend for a set of G-614's? I got all 4 mounted, balanced and out the door for $1200. I know better than to keep shopping after I've bought but.... curiosity always gets me.

That is a GOOD price!

Thats a terrible price for a questionable tire compared to a Sailun S637 , which are just half the price of a G614 , and again arguably a S637 are a more dependable tire. It just seems crazy to pay the outrageous price they are getting for a G614, but it does make sense because you are having to pay that extra for the insurance they want so they can fix the damaged trailers . It makes a lot more sense to buy a tire you don't need to pay for insurance.

Complete nonsense! Run the G14's on all rigs past and present. NEVER A PROBLEM. Great tire. Mind you, I do keep proper inflation, do a visual at every stop while in travel, keep tires covered when parked any length of time and never use Armor All. You know, proper care. Look after your good quality tires, rated for your demands and they will look after you.

[Bamaman11]

I recently replaced my OEM Westlake tires with Bridgestone Duravis R250 ribbed tires. When I sat the R250's side by side the Westlakes, it's hard to believe their weight ratings are the same. The LT/E R250's are extremely heavy duty--commonly mounted on 1 ton dually trucks with utility beds and cranes.

I ordered my Tennessee built Bridgestones from Costco for $197 each, and they came directly from the Firestone warehouse in Lavergne, Tennessee 100 miles away. Tires don't get any fresher than that.

[Cummins12V98]

larry barnhart wrote:
My problem might be I want fresh tires. what control would I have ordering online?

chevman

Talk to Scott he can tell you exactly what dates you will receive. I bought from him when I went from GY "G" to "H" 17.5's and Alcoa wheels mounted/balanced. Really good people to deal with.

Sparks of Imagination, Inc.
103 Baylee Dr
Edon, OH 43518
(419) 272-2277
sarasebiz@yahoo.com

[larry_barnhart]

My problem might be I want fresh tires. what control would I have ordering online?

chevman

[Cummins12V98]

larry barnhart wrote:
I have never had a real tire problem in my driving from being 16 to now at 74.

Happy to be able to say that. Picking up a nail would make a tire lose air and the tire monitors would let the driver know something is wrong. I am still waiting for the new G-614's.

chevman

Sounds like you should order them from trailertiresandwheels and have them installed at your local shop.

[Cummins12V98]

fj12ryder wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:
When we read about people getting waved down because of a flat tire and they did not know it. Best reason to have a tire monitor.

chevman

How many problems have you had with your GY "G" tires?

If I were running ST tires or a lesser quality tire I would run a monitor. With the US Made GY's I feel the money spent and something to clutter the inside of my truck are not worth it to ME.

It is your choice, but I run a pyrometer, fuel pressure gauge, and oil pressure gauge on my Cummins diesel. I just look at it as insurance. That engine most likely isn't going to have a problem, but it's nice to know if and when it does.

I did the same on my 98 12V with the power bumped to 300/750 at the rear wheels. But the new truck no need since it's all controlled to not hurt it's self.

It's all about risk.

[larry_barnhart]

I have never had a real tire problem in my driving from being 16 to now at 74.

Happy to be able to say that. Picking up a nail would make a tire lose air and the tire monitors would let the driver know something is wrong. I am still waiting for the new G-614's.

chevman

[fj12ryder]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:
When we read about people getting waved down because of a flat tire and they did not know it. Best reason to have a tire monitor.

chevman

How many problems have you had with your GY "G" tires?

If I were running ST tires or a lesser quality tire I would run a monitor. With the US Made GY's I feel the money spent and something to clutter the inside of my truck are not worth it to ME.

It is your choice, but I run a pyrometer, fuel pressure gauge, and oil pressure gauge on my Cummins diesel. I just look at it as insurance. That engine most likely isn't going to have a problem, but it's nice to know if and when it does.

[Cummins12V98]

larry barnhart wrote:
When we read about people getting waved down because of a flat tire and they did not know it. Best reason to have a tire monitor.

chevman

How many problems have you had with your GY "G" tires?

If I were running ST tires or a lesser quality tire I would run a monitor. With the US Made GY's I feel the money spent and something to clutter the inside of my truck are not worth it to ME.