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395 North to Lake Tahoe

RayChez
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I would like to take about a three week vacation about twenty miles from Lake Tahoe at SnowFlower RV park. My question is that I would like to take 395 route from Kramer junction north to probably Reno and then back on 80 to the preserve. Was wondering how tough of a climb that is on my coach towing a Honda CRV. Total weight will be around 31K. Engine the 3126-E 330hp Caterpillar engine.

I remember many years ago doing it pulling a travel trailer with a pickup with a 454 chevy and it was a gas burner going up.

Guys that have made the trip through that route, how would my Cat engine do on that mountain.

I wanted to stop and fish some of those lakes and creeks around the Convict Lake and June Lake on the way up to SnowFlower.
2002 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser
330 HP Caterpillar 3126-E
3000 Allison Transmission
Neway Freightliner chassis
2017 Buick Envision
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RayChez
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Doug and Cassi Glass wrote:
Have to disagree about nothing to see between SD and Bishop. From Pearsonville north the whole topography changes from desert open spaces to outstanding mountain vistas. Mt. Whitney, Manzanar WWII Japanese interment camp, Alabama Hills, independence courthouse(star of many films), the elk herd always visible in the alphafa fields, the "Ears" radio telescopes near Big Pine. Lots to see and do around Lone Pine. Fish for golden trout. An amazing area.



I Agee with your post 100 percent.
2002 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser
330 HP Caterpillar 3126-E
3000 Allison Transmission
Neway Freightliner chassis
2017 Buick Envision

Doug_and_Cassi_
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Have to disagree about nothing to see between SD and Bishop. From Pearsonville north the whole topography changes from desert open spaces to outstanding mountain vistas. Mt. Whitney, Manzanar WWII Japanese interment camp, Alabama Hills, independence courthouse(star of many films), the elk herd always visible in the alphafa fields, the "Ears" radio telescopes near Big Pine. Lots to see and do around Lone Pine. Fish for golden trout. An amazing area.

RayChez
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We have been now at SnowFlower for 14 days and the camp ground is very nice among some tall timbers and right next to Crystal lake. We had no problems with over heating. We did hit lots of rain coming up the mountains and the temps up here have been around 75-80 degrees in the day time, at night around 49 degrees this morning. Lots of fishing and have really enjoyed the canoe in the lake.

But I will admit, the Cat 330 I had the pedal to the metal doing a whopping 45 mph climbing some of those grades. LOL
2002 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser
330 HP Caterpillar 3126-E
3000 Allison Transmission
Neway Freightliner chassis
2017 Buick Envision

Acampingwewillg
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"MeadowCliff"....a very nice campground, we normally stop on our way up too. I actually like Topaz Casino/Campground, for the price and coupon books, it cant be beat. I dont gamble much but their drinks are always flowing freely...:B
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The Kid's: Humphrie, the Mini Schnauzer and Georgie,wire haired dachshund.
Rainbow Bridge: Laddie,Scoutie,Katie,Cooper,Kodie,Rubie,Maggie, Cassie, Mollie, Elvis, Potter and Rosie Love You! (40+ years in all)

cbigham
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Piece o' cake. Do it every year with my C7 funmover. Loaded we are at about 34k. Never see the temp gauge ri much on the Bishop to Mammoth grade but I keep my foot out of it. 30-35 mph is plenty up that. I do have the advantage of a front radiator.

2gypsies1
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We just finished driving 395 - once again! It's a favorite of ours. We made stops in Lone Pine, June Lake and Meadowcliff before taking Hwy 50 to Sacramento. Have a good trip!
Full-Timed for 16 Years
.... Back in S&B Again
Traveled 8 yr in a 40' 2004 Newmar Dutch Star Motorhome
& 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel

RayChez
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Ed Manifold wrote:
Thanks for your reply, I just pulled it up on the web and I seethat it's not off 395.


It is off I-80 and you get off on the Yuba Gap. It is a private preserve owned by NACO up in the Sierra's. Never been there, but they get something like 500 inches of snow in mid winter there, lots of bear in the area, fishing, trails. So I am going to check it out and get out of this high desert. Getting hot today at 100 degrees. But I will start my trip around the twentieth taking my time, stopping at different places off 395 to fish different creeks like McGee creek right across from Lake Crawly. Convict Lake for a couple of days and June Lake. So I will not arrive at SnowFlower until the 25th and will stay there for three weeks. I have heard that it is real nice. Hope they are right, we got other RVers coming out of Las Vegas to join us. So it should be fun.

But I did drive that route up from Bishop one time pulling a trailer with a pick up and I thought at the time that it was pretty steep. But I have also driven this coach up to Idyllwild several time from Beaumont and it has gone up pretty easy with no problems and that is around 7200 elevation at about a 6% grade.

I will wash the radiator one more time and the CAC to make sure it has plenty of cooling. I never have had problems with it as far as oil getting on it because the tube was way down where if it threw out oil it would not get on the radiator. So I am really looking forward to this trip. It used to be a very scenic route once you start climbing from Bishop all the way to Tahoe.

SnowFlower is 60 miles from Reno off highway 80.
2002 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser
330 HP Caterpillar 3126-E
3000 Allison Transmission
Neway Freightliner chassis
2017 Buick Envision

Acampingwewillg
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Explorer II
Quite frankly, I always start my trips in the evening hours for many reasons. The obvious one, less traffic and wide open roads and with both of us being in the greater Southern Calif area, thats an important aspect and maybe not so important to others in a more rural area.

I like to take care of my diesel and there's no doubt that those grades we're speaking of are hard on any engine/motor, gas or diesel. I dont have the 3126 but Im still at 350 hp in my 3176(10.3 litre) and with my MH being 17 years old, pulling a toad and loaded to the hilt, Im still down to 3rd gear keeping my RPM up going up that grade outside of Bishop(or at least some portions of that grade). Last year, mistakenly, I did the Kingsbury grade out of Minden, Nv into Lake Tahoe, talk about a hill! I wont do that one again anytime soon. To me, its a fact of life in So Cal during the summer months....your arent going anyplace without hitting some heat and Id just as soon take it a tad easier with cooler temps in the PM/early AM hours. Its just something I do and everyone is different. Anyways, if your in or around Tahoe after July 7th, we'll be at Tahoe Valley for a couple of weeks...stop by and say Hi! :B
96 Vogue Prima Vista
The Kid's: Humphrie, the Mini Schnauzer and Georgie,wire haired dachshund.
Rainbow Bridge: Laddie,Scoutie,Katie,Cooper,Kodie,Rubie,Maggie, Cassie, Mollie, Elvis, Potter and Rosie Love You! (40+ years in all)

FIRE_UP
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Acampingwewillgo wrote:
Have to agree with the late night idea.....I will normally plan my trip so that I hit the grade out of Bishop in the cooler late night/early AM time period, besides I love that Rest area just before you get to the June Lake loop. It just so happens this year, Im going up the 99 to hit the American River first then to Lake Tahoe after but Ill still be doing this at night too.


Acampingwewillgo,
When I posted the original thread about that trip and the benefits of night time driving, I received very mixed reviews. Some don't like any night driving and some can tolerate it just fine. Some have very much difficulty in judgment in driving due to impaired vision and, they also sort of "chastised" me for doing such maneuvering at night in camp sites while folks were sleeping. Well, as usual, a simple thread turned into WWIII.

In any case, we'll be doing the exact same run, from San Diego to the rest stop about 30 south of Bishop, starting at 12:30 midnight in or around the early part of July. That rest stop, is a nice place take a break and get some rest. And, hopefully, since the radiator and CAC are seriously cleaner now, we should have better cooling. Even when it was that clogged up, the engine ran fine in temps until we hit some grades.

Hope everyone has a good time on their trips this summer, as long as we can all afford diesel fuel.
Scott
Scott and Karla
SDFD RETIRED
2004 Itasca Horizon, 36GD Slate Blue 330 CAT
2011 GMC Sierra 1500 Ext Cab 4x4 Toad
2008 Caliente Red LVL II GL 1800 Goldwing
KI60ND

Ed_Manifold
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Thanks for your reply, I just pulled it up on the web and I seethat it's not off 395.
Ed & Sharon
2002 Phaeton
2001 Jeep Wrangler Toad

Acampingwewillg
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Snowflower is a Thousand Trails Resort that may be open to the public...its actually located in Calif. in Emigrant Gap, Calif.
96 Vogue Prima Vista
The Kid's: Humphrie, the Mini Schnauzer and Georgie,wire haired dachshund.
Rainbow Bridge: Laddie,Scoutie,Katie,Cooper,Kodie,Rubie,Maggie, Cassie, Mollie, Elvis, Potter and Rosie Love You! (40+ years in all)

Acampingwewillg
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Have to agree with the late night idea.....I will normally plan my trip so that I hit the grade out of Bishop in the cooler late night/early AM time period, besides I love that Rest area just before you get to the June Lake loop. It just so happens this year, Im going up the 99 to hit the American River first then to Lake Tahoe after but Ill still be doing this at night too.
96 Vogue Prima Vista
The Kid's: Humphrie, the Mini Schnauzer and Georgie,wire haired dachshund.
Rainbow Bridge: Laddie,Scoutie,Katie,Cooper,Kodie,Rubie,Maggie, Cassie, Mollie, Elvis, Potter and Rosie Love You! (40+ years in all)

Ed_Manifold
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Scott and Karla; Reading your post I was going to suggest the radiator cleaning but I see you have taken care of that.I looked in our Good Sam Travel Guide and I can,t find SnowFlower, where is it? We are planning a week around 395 in mid July to for one thing to fish Green Creek on the South side of Bridgeport and I was wondering where is SnowFlower? We have A 2002 Phaeton wth the 3126 engine and have recently turned over 30,000 miles and it just seems to run better and better. Thank-you.
Ed & Sharon
2002 Phaeton
2001 Jeep Wrangler Toad

FIRE_UP
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RayChez,
Well Sir, I see you're heading there from Barstow correct? Well, compared to us, you've don't have the preliminary grade(s) we have to run, even before we get to your area of starting. We live in the San Diego County area and run the 15 to the 395.

But, I made the decision (and posted it on here quite a while ago) to do the entire run, from San Diego to Bishop, starting at midnight exactly. That run, without a doubt, was the best, long distance, non stop run, I've EVER DONE! The primary reason, at that time of night/early-early morning, there was NO ONE ON THE ROAD!!! Talk about a pleasant drive. Besides, if anyone knows that run, from San Diego to Bishop, in that route, they know there's absolutely NOTHING to see or miss, in that entire section.

So, doing it at night, with seriously less (none) traffic, was outstanding.

But, back to your original question. Our rig, an '04 Itasca Horizon, 36GD with the C-7 330 CAT, runs down the road at 32,700 lbs. with a Honda Goldwing hung on the back of the rig and, a 2011 Honda CRV-EXL in tow. Cajon Pass is a pain, but, not all that bad. But, that grade, just outside of Bishop to the north, seems relentless. I think, with the present load, I run it at about 30-35 mph, plus or minus.

The time we did it, around July of '12, the temps on that grade were about 85 if I'm recalling. The temps on the big beast started to do some climbing. I think I may have hit around 207-210 before I topped the grade. There are other grades that have been mentioned but, we survived all of them and the coach did fine.

Now, one thing here, this trip was done BEFORE I found out I had about 30-40% of my CAC and radiator clogged up with all the gunk, oil, debris, and more from the blow by tube etc. I've since removed the radiator and CAC and have done extensive cleaning of the entire system. So, we too are heading up that exact route, to the June lake loop in early July. We'll see how it handles them then. Good luck and, you should be fine, keep the RPMs up to so the engine is at peak HP and the fan is cooling at maximum.
Scott
Scott and Karla
SDFD RETIRED
2004 Itasca Horizon, 36GD Slate Blue 330 CAT
2011 GMC Sierra 1500 Ext Cab 4x4 Toad
2008 Caliente Red LVL II GL 1800 Goldwing
KI60ND