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Country Coach solid front axel

mike_brez
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I'm close to pulling the trigger on a 1999 CC Allure. Can any other CC owners give me your options on the solid front axel. I'm a little nervous about the handling. After owning this wandering P30 the ride/handling is the first thing on my list. I haven't been able to drive it yet but we will the first week of April.
1998 36 foot Country Coach Magna #5499 Single slide
Gillig chassis with a series 40
02 Ford F250 7.3 with a few mods
2015 Wrangler JKU
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mike_brez
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Sully2 wrote:
mike brez wrote:
..." 2000 and 2001 coaches suffered from the clear coat peeling on the radius where the roof curves to over lap the walls."



Dont understand that? The radius on my roof isnt even finished as that...its part of the roof....not part of the sidewalls. Has a "trim strip" thats ( I guess riveted?) fastened to the sidewall..?


I hear ya. I'm just getting anxious to see this thing. It's been a long couple of months plus. From the pics I have it has a nice shine.
1998 36 foot Country Coach Magna #5499 Single slide
Gillig chassis with a series 40
02 Ford F250 7.3 with a few mods
2015 Wrangler JKU

Sully2
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mike brez wrote:
..." 2000 and 2001 coaches suffered from the clear coat peeling on the radius where the roof curves to over lap the walls."



Dont understand that? The radius on my roof isnt even finished as that...its part of the roof....not part of the sidewalls. Has a "trim strip" thats ( I guess riveted?) fastened to the sidewall..?
presently.....Coachless!...
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2016 Ford Escape

tiredkid
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dons2346 wrote:
Sez Hoo! wrote:
......I believe the paint has a gelcoat finish on it........


It is the other way around. The gelcoat has the paint on it


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mike_brez
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I got this sent to me at the yahoo forums.
On 98 and 99 Allures only the painted graphics and the front cap had clear coat, unless you paid extra foe a total clear coat which was not a published option. 2000 was the first year for total 2 stage clear coat over the entire coach, roof excluded. 2002 was the first year for total body paint and clear coat. The clear coat will only stick to paint faithfully. 2000 and 2001 coaches suffered from the clear coat peeling on the radius where the roof curves to over lap the walls.

So I am guessing the 99 Allure I intend to look at will just have fiberglass gel coated walls?
1998 36 foot Country Coach Magna #5499 Single slide
Gillig chassis with a series 40
02 Ford F250 7.3 with a few mods
2015 Wrangler JKU

Sully2
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mike brez wrote:
The1999 brochure CC sent me says "Dynomax chassis semi monocoque construction of 8"x3"x1/4" tube with welded componets"


Bought it yet?...Bought it yet?...Bought it yet?...:B
presently.....Coachless!...
2002 Jeep Liberty
2016 Ford Escape

mike_brez
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The1999 brochure CC sent me says "Dynomax chassis semi monocoque construction of 8"x3"x1/4" tube with welded componets"
1998 36 foot Country Coach Magna #5499 Single slide
Gillig chassis with a series 40
02 Ford F250 7.3 with a few mods
2015 Wrangler JKU

RayChez
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wny_pat wrote:
8 straight hours of driving a P-30 is enough to cure anyone from enjoying driving one, while 8 straight hours in my Foretravel (no air) is a piece of cake. I'll bet 8 hours of driving the Country Coach is too!


Eight straight hours of driving is hard, does not matter whether you are driving a Prevost, Newell or a Foretravel. Lets be realistic!
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dons2346
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Sez Hoo! wrote:
......I believe the paint has a gelcoat finish on it........


It is the other way around. The gelcoat has the paint on it

Sully2
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Sez Hoo! wrote:
Mike my Country Coach has a Dynomax chassis. I'm told its their own creation. I've had my Intrigue for 4 yrs now and wouldn't trade it if my life depended on it. I believe the paint has a gelcoat finish on it. People look at my coach and think its a lot newer than than it is. You are welcome to come look at my coach when I get into Waterbury. It should be around the 5th or 6th of April.


STeve: What year was it that CC made the final switch? I thought it was 1998? Other than the Dynomax they used Gillig frames...???

I went back and re-read Mike's post. He's looking at an ALLURE not an Intrigue. CC started at the TOP of their lineup replacing Gillig's with Dynomax chassis.....so Intrigues would have gotten a Dyno chassis before Allures.

Either way from what I understand about Gillig's from owners I talk to when Im out and about....you'll love either chassis Mike.
presently.....Coachless!...
2002 Jeep Liberty
2016 Ford Escape

Sez_Hoo_
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Mike my Country Coach has a Dynomax chassis. I'm told its their own creation. I've had my Intrigue for 4 yrs now and wouldn't trade it if my life depended on it. I believe the paint has a gelcoat finish on it. People look at my coach and think its a lot newer than than it is. You are welcome to come look at my coach when I get into Waterbury. It should be around the 5th or 6th of April.
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tropical36
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mike brez wrote:
tropical36 wrote:
mike brez wrote:
I'm close to pulling the trigger on a 1999 CC Allure. Can any other CC owners give me your options on the solid front axel. I'm a little nervous about the handling. After owning this wandering P30 the ride/handling is the first thing on my list. I haven't been able to drive it yet but we will the first week of April.

Not sure which chassis you're talking about here with the solid axle and never could figure what the problem was with a P30. Now it doesn't say Chevy on the steering wheels, does it and if so, we're looking at a rare P12 With our 30, all you need is one of your little fingers for driving it with ease. Had an older one also and even though, not as good as our present on, it did OK. I mean I just don't get and would love to look down under and drive one of these impossible beasts, I keep reading about.
Having said all of this, I would dare compare it to DP chassis, but will take on a F53 Ford or WH W chassis for handling and comfort. In fact there's a W near by, that I've ridden in and talked with the owner as well.


Mine is a chevy P30. I think half the problem with the P chassis is the front wheels being about 4ft apart on center. I can drive mine with one finger also but sometimes it just has a mind of its own.

A year or so after WH bought the chassis from Chevy, they widened the track, but still, I have absolutely no complaints with ours. We've been all over including 3 times across country, the long way around, up and down the rockies and up and down the east coast to the bottom the keys. If I was to comment on it's construction, I'd have to say there were far too many parts under there for a suspension, but hey, it works for me, so.....
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mike_brez
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wny_pat wrote:
8 straight hours of driving a P-30 is enough to cure anyone from enjoying driving one, while 8 straight hours in my Foretravel (no air) is a piece of cake. I'll bet 8 hours of driving the Country Coach is too!


5 straight is about my limit.
1998 36 foot Country Coach Magna #5499 Single slide
Gillig chassis with a series 40
02 Ford F250 7.3 with a few mods
2015 Wrangler JKU

wny_pat1
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8 straight hours of driving a P-30 is enough to cure anyone from enjoying driving one, while 8 straight hours in my Foretravel (no air) is a piece of cake. I'll bet 8 hours of driving the Country Coach is too!
“All journeys have secret destinations of which the traveler is unaware.”

Sully2
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mike brez wrote:
Will the sides and graphics be paint on this era coach? I have the 1999 brochure that CC sent me and it just says fiberglass vacuum bonded walls. How about clear coat?


It should have clear coat.! And mine are painted graphics...Im sure that coach will have the same.
presently.....Coachless!...
2002 Jeep Liberty
2016 Ford Escape

mike_brez
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tropical36 wrote:
mike brez wrote:
I'm close to pulling the trigger on a 1999 CC Allure. Can any other CC owners give me your options on the solid front axel. I'm a little nervous about the handling. After owning this wandering P30 the ride/handling is the first thing on my list. I haven't been able to drive it yet but we will the first week of April.

Not sure which chassis you're talking about here with the solid axle and never could figure what the problem was with a P30. Now it doesn't say Chevy on the steering wheels, does it and if so, we're looking at a rare P12 With our 30, all you need is one of your little fingers for driving it with ease. Had an older one also and even though, not as good as our present on, it did OK. I mean I just don't get and would love to look down under and drive one of these impossible beasts, I keep reading about.
Having said all of this, I would dare compare it to DP chassis, but will take on a F53 Ford or WH W chassis for handling and comfort. In fact there's a W near by, that I've ridden in and talked with the owner as well.


Mine is a chevy P30. I think half the problem with the P chassis is the front wheels being about 4ft apart on center. I can drive mine with one finger also but sometimes it just has a mind of its own.
1998 36 foot Country Coach Magna #5499 Single slide
Gillig chassis with a series 40
02 Ford F250 7.3 with a few mods
2015 Wrangler JKU