โApr-20-2017 06:22 AM
โApr-23-2017 08:05 AM
โApr-22-2017 02:05 PM
hohenwald48 wrote:
I think if you do the CHF without lengthening the front links, some will find the stock links pull the sway bar up enough to contact the front leaf spring. I haven't read of anybody having this happen in operation but have heard of it when parked and raising the front end to level. Lengthening the front links solves the problem.
โApr-22-2017 08:46 AM
kmb1966 wrote:
A few weeks ago, I did the cheap handling fix (CHF). Yes I can see an improvement in the handling of my F53. But now when I level the motorhome, my front wheels are slightly off the ground. Is this a problem? They are not really high off the ground but they are just enough off the ground to turn the tire by hand.
I've never had that happen before, and if it is a problem, I suppose I could change to using leveling blocks instead of the HWH levelers. My site is not super unlevel so I was a little surprised when I looked at the front tires and saw they were technically lifted off the concrete pad.
โApr-22-2017 07:59 AM
hohenwald48 wrote:
I think if you do the CHF without lengthening the front links, some will find the stock links pull the sway bar up enough to contact the front leaf spring. I haven't read of anybody having this happen in operation but have heard of it when parked and raising the front end to level. Lengthening the front links solves the problem.
โApr-22-2017 07:22 AM
โApr-22-2017 03:48 AM
DryCreek wrote:
Will the CHF alter suspension geometry?
I believe the answer is YES in - with a caveat. I think that it depends on the GVWR for the F-53 chassis it is performed on. My Winnebago 29R is on the Ford 18K lb. GVWR chassis. When I moved the stock front sway bar links to the back hole the bar and the links were nearly in line, and my suspension travel was shortened somewhat. I went with the Hellwig 7962 adjustable sway bar links and set them to maintain the OEM geometry. Suspension travel was returned to stock parameters. Plus, I could take the front stock sway bar links and use them for the CHF on the rear. The front links are exactly one inch longer than the stock rear ones. I didn't want to get in a bind and have the upper end of the sway bar possibly contacting the VSS mounted in the top of the differential housing.
It may be that the F-53 chassis rated for higher the GVWR have different sway bars or end links. Or maybe the slight differences between chassis runs through the years? Just kinda' grasping at straws there - as I've seen posts where some have had no change and others (like me) did.
โApr-22-2017 12:48 AM
โApr-21-2017 09:08 PM
Effy wrote:
Can't see how there is any correlation of the CHF and wheels being off the ground when leveling other than coincidence. It does not change the travel of the suspension, it just changes the resistance. And no, having fronts off the ground is not an issue. All that said, I never use the auto level function. It does some weird stuff including lifting wheels off the ground when they don't really need to be. I use manual mode to level. Same result with less drama. My auto level was causing some major body twist and I really don't understand why it does what it does sometimes. I can level in half the time with less frame stress doing it manually.
โApr-21-2017 04:38 PM
โApr-21-2017 03:43 PM
โApr-21-2017 06:17 AM
kmb1966 wrote:georgelesley wrote:
I have also done the CHF. I cannot see how doing it would cause any change in the front wheels being on or off the ground. If you use auto level perhaps it needs recalibration. I now manually level because I noticed the auto level did lift the MH higher on all jacks than necessary.
Having the front wheels off the ground is no problem but never either of the rear wheels. Both rear wheels must be on the ground for the parking brake and transmission park gear to work.
Yes, it does ride with less sway when trucks pass, sudden wind gusts etc. Some say the ride is a bit harsher, we did not notice any change
IMHO the best improvement for the money is the CHF which is free or close to it. The next improvement is a rear track bar. It will fix the rear end tail wagging syndrome and make steering much, much easier with far less back and forth corrections needed. Cost about $500-600. I installed ours myself. Some make their own for $150 or so, I was not that brave.
Could you tell me which Rear Track bar you purchased and installed yourself? I'd like to give that a try if it isn't too difficult.
Thanks for the feedback on the CHF and front wheels.
โApr-21-2017 06:10 AM
โApr-21-2017 05:43 AM
georgelesley wrote:
I have also done the CHF. I cannot see how doing it would cause any change in the front wheels being on or off the ground. If you use auto level perhaps it needs recalibration. I now manually level because I noticed the auto level did lift the MH higher on all jacks than necessary.
Having the front wheels off the ground is no problem but never either of the rear wheels. Both rear wheels must be on the ground for the parking brake and transmission park gear to work.
Yes, it does ride with less sway when trucks pass, sudden wind gusts etc. Some say the ride is a bit harsher, we did not notice any change
IMHO the best improvement for the money is the CHF which is free or close to it. The next improvement is a rear track bar. It will fix the rear end tail wagging syndrome and make steering much, much easier with far less back and forth corrections needed. Cost about $500-600. I installed ours myself. Some make their own for $150 or so, I was not that brave.
โApr-21-2017 04:35 AM