dumping without a hose?

[Effy]

So, while visiting Hershey this past weekend I cam across something I thought was odd. For those who have not been there the dump station has 2 connections side by side. I pulled up to the left, hooked up my hoses and did my business. The guy on the other side in a TT had his rig pulled up to the inlet. The inlet, like many has the cover in sort of a trough. Obviously to prevent overflow if a mishap should occur. Anyway on the other side of my rig the smell was awful. I walk around to find this guy dumping with no hose. Just a full on waterfall of raw sewage in the trough and he was "guiding" into the drain with what else? A stick. I was like wha???. Not only is it disgusting, but think about the next poor soul who has to hook up to that. Has anyone ever seen this before? I try and give folks the benefit of the doubt. Maybe his hose broke. But the camp store is a hundred yards away. I have no idea what that was about but I considered reporting him on my exit. Anyone ever see this?

[dubdub07]

Passin Thru wrote:
dubdub07, You sound like the lady who lived next door to me. She called 911 because dogs barked at 3 Am and they said it had to be an emergency. She said it was as she had to go to work at 7. I've called 911 3 times in my life, twice for accidents and once for a fire and I've driven 2.4 million miles.

I don't believe my communication indicated in any way that I would call 911 for a barking dog, much the contrary. I would ensure that the banging on your door at three A.M. was as loud as the dog to wake you up. Then I would ask that the dog is quieted for the night. If it were recurring, then we would get the city code enforcer involved. A dog barking for an extended period of time is as wrong as any noise complaint at 3 A.M. but not an emergency.

For the record, you have called 911 twice more than I have.

WW

[hipower]

We find all kinds of people in this world and the ability of our society to continue to produce an endless supply of people who don't know "crap" is simply amazing.

After a career spent trying to convince people to purchase my goods and services I have found that it isn't usually what you say to someone, it is how you say it.

In the case of the OP's slob encounter, I might have said "I've found that job is a little neater and less stinky when I use my hose". All while smiling and going on about my business.

But I don't feel an overwhelming need to educate adults, who by their actions, have already indicated to me that they are too stupid to have lived to be adults. Opinions may vary, but I like mine. LOL

[J-Rooster]

Too lazy to hook up his hose!

[SkiingSixPack]

dbbls wrote:
I was at a state park in Kansas and the guy ahead of me was not using a hose. When he left and I pulled up the dump station, it was unlike any I had ever seen. It was an open pit with a grate over it. There was no place to put the hose. I did like him, dumped without a hose. The pit was designed that way.

There is a park in southern MN that has a dump trough like that. Stinky, but fast!

Kamp Dels is the name of the place. Very tight RV spots, nasty stinky tank dump, and an almost bald ostrich 😮

Have never been back...

[time2roll]

Would seem faster and easier to use a hose.
That is assuming the guy took the time to clean up.
I think most figure it out pretty quick or they quit the RV thing.

[classicdude]

Well, I rarely, if EVER, criticize what other campers choose to do. But I sure would hate to be the next guy to have to use that dump station. I can only estimate the accuracy of his 'stick' guidance system!

[et2]

Effy wrote:

loulou57 wrote:
You are right, maybe his hose broke. Did you offer the use of your hose?

He could have been a newbie and thought that was the way you emptied the tanks.

I have a built in macerator so no slinky. Not sure I would offer my hose to someone else anyway, but I don't have a traditional hose.

Because some people thinks its our responsibility to explain common sense to others. They don't seem to understand some or most of those slobs don't care what you or anyone else has to say.

Common sense is a thing of the past.

[Peg_Leg]

I think that would be a Haz-Mat situation.

[FIRE_UP]

Well,
First off, RVers are always learning stuff. I'm pretty sure that none of us are born knowing EVERYTHING there is to know about RVing. We learn on RV.net, IRV2 and a whole host of other forums. Now, if you're not computer literate, then, real life application always seems to work too. We learn by doing, watching, seeing, smelling and more.

Most of the time, especially here on the net, questions are asked, issues are displayed and, an entourage of opinions and answers are sent back.

But, what I'm getting at here is, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THIS PERSON HAS DUMPED THIS WAY? Was he born that morning? Being that he was in an "RV", has he not seen or, been around other RVers that have used HOSES while dumping? Has he NEVER been in an RV Parts/supplies store and seen "Dump hoses" and all the related attachments?

Unless this person's been in a cave for his entire life and, lived in that RV IN THAT CAVE, until that very minute that the OP watched his inappropriate behavior, he has had to have seen, witnessed, been shown, learned at RV parts stores, POSSIBLY BEEN ALREADY TOLD how to dump, AND WITH THE USE OF THE PROPER EQUIPMENT!!

Again, while we all consistently learn about our coaches, their operations, their idiosyncrasies, what's RIGHT and what's WRONG, in terms of procedures etc. and, by the way, I'm also pre-supposing that about 99.99999999999% of us can READ, and therefore SEE in books how things are done, i.e. OWNERS MANUALS AND INSTRUCTION PAMPHLETS, that this person, at least ONCE in his life, has seen or read the procedures for dumping and the, the use of proper equipment.

I don't really believe that this person was not educated enough to know he was seriously in the wrong. Not in todays world. When one of you made comment about him being a pig, I believe that was the true analysis of his actions, PERIOD! That's not the first time he's done that way.
Scott

[Passin_Thru]

dubdub07, You sound like the lady who lived next door to me. She called 911 because dogs barked at 3 Am and they said it had to be an emergency. She said it was as she had to go to work at 7. I've called 911 3 times in my life, twice for accidents and once for a fire and I've driven 2.4 million miles.

[Passin_Thru]

Or your glasses. Christopher campground in Mineral Va has a pit. We used the hose but had to dump into the pit and rinse it down as lid wouldn't open far enough to permit dumping correctly. It was clean though so I left it that way.

[dieharder]

downtheroad wrote:

dieharder wrote:
I get a kick out of those who just sit there and say "I figure that he just bought it..." or "I guess his hose broke...". You know, if you don't make an effort to talk to someone and teach them that what they're doing is wrong, the stupidity is just going to continue, right? If you witness something like this an just let it go without mentioning anything, to me that makes you just as ignorant as the person doing it.

No, it does not make me, "just as ignorant." I am not the worlds keeper. Last time I tried, "to talk to someone and teach them that what they're doing wrong," I almost got myself punched in the face for my efforts (this was at a dump station.)

The blame is on the dumper, not on the rest of us that are courteous, educated and responsible.

Like I said, to me it does make one just as ignorant. You know someone is doing something wrong, actually endangering numerous people health around them, sit there and do nothing? Maybe watch... laugh... take a sip of your beer.

I guess it all depends on how you approach someone doing this. If you approach them with the "What the blankety blank do you think you're blanking doing" attitude... yes, I can see you getting your lights punched out.

While you may be courteous, educated and responsible, to sit there and not make any attempt to properly educate someone who just might not even realize the impact of what they are doing is, in itself, irresponsible and one of the reasons why it seems that humanity as a whole is dumbing down - people are afraid to help where it may be needed. Just because someone isn't waving their hands around screaming doesn't mean help isn't needed.

While the blame is on the dumper in this instance, the next time this guy does it, you shoulder a part of it because you made no effort to educate them and passed any reponsibility whatsoever onto someone else.

[dubdub07]

Effy wrote:

dieharder wrote:
I get a kick out of those who just sit there and say "I figure that he just bought it..." or "I guess his hose broke...". You know, if you don't make an effort to talk to someone and teach them that what they're doing is wrong, the stupidity is just going to continue, right? If you witness something like this an just let it go without mentioning anything, to me that makes you just as ignorant as the person doing it.

Well that depends on a few things right? Mainly I wasn't actually sure if this is an accepted practice, hence why I asked the question here. Secondly you never know if the ofending person is ignorant or apathetic. I didn't notice it until I was packing up to pull out as there was a line behind me, But when he noticed me checking out his "procedure" I sort of got that "what are you looking at?" sort of thing that suggested to me he knew very well what he was doing.

And lastly it isn't your responsibility. We cannot critically think for others. Common sense is learned through making a mistake and having to pay the consequences. I think it is irrational for someone to berate you on your very innocent question. The thought process for the dumper and dieharder is in question, not yours. People hate the truth and the simply put, you should have reported him. This is why we have police and park officials to deal with the obtuse.

I get involved all the time in my community and direct and correct all the time (teenagers looking for trouble). On the occasion that I must dial 911, the first thing the operator says is "do not confront the individual". There is a reason for this, safety. Others are correct to assume that you could get more than you bargained for by confronting someone. If they care so little about doing the right thing, it seems illogical to approach someone with good intentions.

Just a couple of cents worth.....


WW

[workhardplayha1]

I got a picture of him..