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Florida cracking down on out of State plates ?

Executive45
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Driving down Hwy 1 in the Miami/Hollywood area today, the Florida Hwy Patrol had cameras set up along one stretch of the hwy with the following warning sign set up. One trooper said they were looking for expired tags and out of state vehicles belonging to residents..guess Florida decided to jump on the band wagon....Dennis


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Dance_Chick
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bigdad1 wrote:
I think they are looking for people working in Florida with out of state licenses. Fl. law is to have Florida license to work and live here, and they are looking for out of date decals. And, they are not targeting out of state visitors.


You're probably right as they'd be stupid to target out of state visitors. A huge part of our economy and why we don't have a state income tax is tourism. Half of our subdivision has out of state tags while here for 4 to 6 months a year, and then they go back to where they're from.
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bigdad1
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I think they are looking for people working in Florida with out of state licenses. Fl. law is to have Florida license to work and live here, and they are looking for out of date decals. And, they are not targeting out of state visitors.

bigdad1
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Executive wrote:
Driving down Hwy 1 in the Miami/Hollywood area today, the Florida Hwy Patrol had cameras set up along one stretch of the hwy with the following warning sign set up. One trooper said they were looking for expired tags and out of state vehicles belonging to residents..guess Florida decided to jump on the band wagon....Dennis


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This is what I read by Bohemian on heartlanderowners.com
Federal law and the federal courts trump state law.Federal law says that if you have established residency and then leave your town and state of residence for the purpose of long term travel, keeping no other permanent address and residence in any other place, you may keep your previous existing town and state of residence for all purposes including voting and taxes. This is regardless of what any states or town says or any state or town laws.South Dakota is a popular place to establish residence if you want to establish a different residence. You can establish residence in SD by filing a form that says that you have no other legal residence. At some other later time you must visit SD for a short period.We had a friend challenged by the state of FL on their residency in FL because they used a mailing service to receive all mail and had it forwarded to NY. FL says you must be in FL for a minimum of 6 months per year to be a resident. They beat that easily by simply stating they were residents and were in FL at least 6 m per year.Basically, the states may not make you homeless without a legal state and town of residency and you get to choose among your legal options. Stay put or move. It's up to you. If you want legal residence in GA, move. If not, you may stay put. Or, move to SD or TX and avoid taxes.

gemert
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Kiwi_too wrote:
mowermech wrote:
Kiwi_too wrote:
mowermech wrote:
I have been encouraging DW to return to Travel Nursing like we were doing 10+years ago.
If the states are going to crack down on out-of-state registrations, I guess we can forget that idea.
NO WAY am I going to change registration every 13 weeks!

If you have a business you operate out of the MH, the MH stays at a CG, you are a fulltimer, I doubt this will have much affect on you. While I do not think it JUST a scare tactic, they are looking for local, with external reg and expired licensing.


DW was employed by a travel nurse agency. We were not an independent business, nor were we independent contractors.
We were smart enough that I took her to work and picked her up,so the truck with Montana license plates was never overnight in the hospital employee's parking lot (yes, they DO check those lots for out-of-state plates!)
I wonder, can the hospitals afford to lose the Travelers? If not, it behooves them to see to it that their state legislators don't make it difficult to BE a Traveler!
It isn't just nurses, there are travelers in nearly ALL medical disciplines!

Again, my interpretation is that they are looking for locals that have out of state registrations, therefore bypassing local taxes, or out of state plates that are expired. I do not see it worth their while to harass every out of state plate owner. I believe that to do otherwise sets them up for a lawsuit.


Most of those stationary LPRs on heavily traveled roadways are looking for stolen cars.
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randallb
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The bottom line is you can do whatever you want when it comes to your registration. Just do not complain when your home state busts you. We bought our 08 HR in Nov of 08. It was purchased, licensed and registered in North Dakota, for tax and registration savings, using my S-i-L's address. We lived in CA and did not hit the road until the middle of 09. The RV was stored in the driveway and covered so the plates did not show. When we were driving down the road no one in CA had any idea as to where our primary residence was. I was in violation of CA law but I took the chance knowing I would be on the road out of state for a good period of time and would only be coming back to sell the house. Our toad, which was on a trailer registered in CA, was also registered in CA but the only time CHP checks for registration violations is if there is a boat with AZ registration on a CA registered trailer behind an out of state RV. Unless they see you commuting daily in your out of state registered vehicle.
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AllegroD
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mowermech wrote:
Kiwi_too wrote:
mowermech wrote:
I have been encouraging DW to return to Travel Nursing like we were doing 10+years ago.
If the states are going to crack down on out-of-state registrations, I guess we can forget that idea.
NO WAY am I going to change registration every 13 weeks!

If you have a business you operate out of the MH, the MH stays at a CG, you are a fulltimer, I doubt this will have much affect on you. While I do not think it JUST a scare tactic, they are looking for local, with external reg and expired licensing.


DW was employed by a travel nurse agency. We were not an independent business, nor were we independent contractors.
We were smart enough that I took her to work and picked her up,so the truck with Montana license plates was never overnight in the hospital employee's parking lot (yes, they DO check those lots for out-of-state plates!)
I wonder, can the hospitals afford to lose the Travelers? If not, it behooves them to see to it that their state legislators don't make it difficult to BE a Traveler!
It isn't just nurses, there are travelers in nearly ALL medical disciplines!

Again, my interpretation is that they are looking for locals that have out of state registrations, therefore bypassing local taxes, or out of state plates that are expired. I do not see it worth their while to harass every out of state plate owner. I believe that to do otherwise sets them up for a lawsuit.

gemert
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down home wrote:
Getting to the point, not figuratively, that everything is illegal. We saw a crew, including a police officer, on an overpass, as we drove over the overpass kneeled down taking photos of cars, on the Interstate. It wasn't a standard camera. It was a new apparatus, to me. This was in Murfreesboro, Tn.

Probably a laser for speed measuring. Some even look like they have 2 lenses on the front.
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gemert
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Class A DP 1 wrote:
Executive - I don't fully understand.. what are they cracking down on? People that live there and have never changed there tags and registration? Or tourists with dead tags from their home states etc? Please explain what you may know about it.

I own a house in FL and also in PA. Many times I leave a truck in FL with PA tags and pick it up a few months later on next trip down. It's got good tags and inspection from PA. Wonder if I am a violator.


Yes you are a violator. As soon as you buy property in FL or put kids in school among others you must get a FL DL and tag. There are some exceptions. They are in Fl Statute Chapter 320.
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Passin_Thru
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They track everywhere you go by your cellphone and Credit card purchases-ATM withdrawals. They are trying to get people who live there for over 30 days to become legal citizens if they have a home, move property to FL like furniture, other vehicles. etc. If you have an expired tag on your Toad, you can still load it on trailer and haul it back to NY or wherever and there is nothing they can do as long as the trailer is legal, (VA and TN have permanent tags) What msmith says too. I hope all the states crack down on taxes, I pay mine and it sort of angers me that someone would go to another state because they don't charge taxes. My Grandkids are in school. You are cheating them out of school money and us out of road taxes, then you ***** because the roads are rough.

wa8yxm
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Kiwi_too wrote:
Seems every state but Montana is.


Many states have a rule that when you move into the state you are to re-place your out of state registration with an in-state ASAP.. Most states give you a short period of time to do that.

I know Michigan State Police have written "Fail to update residence" tickets and we are not even going (far as I know) after Montana LLC folks.. These are just people who come have jobs and homes in Mi but are still registered out of state.

Other states have often done this too... There are reasons I do not wish to move to Flordia.. This, strangely is NOT one of them.
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mowermech
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Kiwi_too wrote:
mowermech wrote:
I have been encouraging DW to return to Travel Nursing like we were doing 10+years ago.
If the states are going to crack down on out-of-state registrations, I guess we can forget that idea.
NO WAY am I going to change registration every 13 weeks!

If you have a business you operate out of the MH, the MH stays at a CG, you are a fulltimer, I doubt this will have much affect on you. While I do not think it JUST a scare tactic, they are looking for local, with external reg and expired licensing.


DW was employed by a travel nurse agency. We were not an independent business, nor were we independent contractors.
We were smart enough that I took her to work and picked her up,so the truck with Montana license plates was never overnight in the hospital employee's parking lot (yes, they DO check those lots for out-of-state plates!)
I wonder, can the hospitals afford to lose the Travelers? If not, it behooves them to see to it that their state legislators don't make it difficult to BE a Traveler!
It isn't just nurses, there are travelers in nearly ALL medical disciplines!
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AllegroD
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mowermech wrote:
I have been encouraging DW to return to Travel Nursing like we were doing 10+years ago.
If the states are going to crack down on out-of-state registrations, I guess we can forget that idea.
NO WAY am I going to change registration every 13 weeks!

If you have a business you operate out of the MH, the MH stays at a CG, you are a fulltimer, I doubt this will have much affect on you. While I do not think it JUST a scare tactic, they are looking for local, with external reg and expired licensing.

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Jim, my current pickup, a 2011 Chevy one ton dually, costs me $184.35 for the tag and registration, for this year here in Florida.
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Automatic License Plate readers (ALPR) are becoming much more common. Maryland Coordination and Analysis Center has more than 320 cameras on bridges, toll booths and tunnels that scan plates and run criminal records checks on each vehicle, automatically. In addition these LPR cameras are mounted on cars.
Recently a Florida driver was detained and his vehicle searched because the Plate Reader check showed he was a Florida licensed gun owner. Article here about ALPR's- (Maryland has strict laws on transporting firearms.....but lets not get all sideways about guns)

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