Nov-23-2016 02:02 AM
The TV: 2004 Ford F250 Super Duty, Crew Cab, Long Bed, 4x4, V10
The RV: Laredo by Keystone, 29BH
Wonderful wife
2 great kids
one spoiled English Bulldog
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Nov-24-2016 06:50 AM
jfkmk wrote:There are still seatbelt deniers - after all these years.
Heck, if it were that easy, there would probably be fewer seatbelt laws. Just depend on the driver to yell and buckle up then!
Nov-24-2016 06:48 AM
jfkmk wrote:Bumpyroad wrote:jfkmk wrote:
Bumpy,
Crashes don't normally happen in slow motion or even slowly enough for the driver to think to scream out a code word, and the passenger to hear the word, process it, and take appropriate action. If you had all this time, you'd typically have enough time to avoid the crash in the first place. You're really fooling yourself if you think this would do any good. Besides, an unbelted passenger would probably be just as injured if they "hit the deck" or simply be thrown as they stand up. Forces in a crash are incredible, and no matter what you might see in a movie, you can't just "hold on".
tell you what we can do a little test. we'll get into a class A rv, drive down the road, I'll slam on the brakes with you standing in the aisle, then repeat it with you lying on the floor. Oh wait, lets reverse that procedure so you will be able to undergo part B.
I didn't say it was fool proof, etc. just be good to have an understanding as to action if the unforseen occurs.
reminds me of my wife's help when backing into a space,she tried to figure out meaningful hand/arm signals when to stop if needed immediately. my suggestion, yell "STOP" at the top of her lungs.
bumpy
Hello bumpy,
First off, a Happy Thanksgiving!
Unfortunately, your theory and test is flawed. In your test, both the driver and the passenger know it is a test, and are prepared to take action. They're ready for it, not like an unexpected crash. There's quite a difference there!
You're slamming on the brakes provides no where near the forces that are in play during a crash. No matter how hard you stand on the brakes, there simply is no comparison to a crash.
I can do the same thing in any vehicle with a passenger. Yell "brace yourself" then slam on the brakes, and there's probably not much of a need for seat belts. Slam into the back of the car in front of me, there's more need for seat belts, no matter how alert the driver is and yells in time for the passenger to take action.
Heck, if it were that easy, there would probably be fewer seatbelt laws. Just depend on the driver to yell and buckle up then!
Lastly, backing up at 2-5 mph and being able to stop when your wife yells stop is a lot different than tooling down the highway at 65. Not sure why this was even mentioned!
Nov-24-2016 06:47 AM
Bumpyroad wrote:jfkmk wrote:
Bumpy,
Crashes don't normally happen in slow motion or even slowly enough for the driver to think to scream out a code word, and the passenger to hear the word, process it, and take appropriate action. If you had all this time, you'd typically have enough time to avoid the crash in the first place. You're really fooling yourself if you think this would do any good. Besides, an unbelted passenger would probably be just as injured if they "hit the deck" or simply be thrown as they stand up. Forces in a crash are incredible, and no matter what you might see in a movie, you can't just "hold on".
tell you what we can do a little test. we'll get into a class A rv, drive down the road, I'll slam on the brakes with you standing in the aisle, then repeat it with you lying on the floor. Oh wait, lets reverse that procedure so you will be able to undergo part B.
I didn't say it was fool proof, etc. just be good to have an understanding as to action if the unforseen occurs.
reminds me of my wife's help when backing into a space,she tried to figure out meaningful hand/arm signals when to stop if needed immediately. my suggestion, yell "STOP" at the top of her lungs.
bumpy
Nov-24-2016 02:46 AM
jfkmk wrote:
Bumpy,
Crashes don't normally happen in slow motion or even slowly enough for the driver to think to scream out a code word, and the passenger to hear the word, process it, and take appropriate action. If you had all this time, you'd typically have enough time to avoid the crash in the first place. You're really fooling yourself if you think this would do any good. Besides, an unbelted passenger would probably be just as injured if they "hit the deck" or simply be thrown as they stand up. Forces in a crash are incredible, and no matter what you might see in a movie, you can't just "hold on".
Nov-23-2016 04:24 PM
The TV: 2004 Ford F250 Super Duty, Crew Cab, Long Bed, 4x4, V10
The RV: Laredo by Keystone, 29BH
Wonderful wife
2 great kids
one spoiled English Bulldog
Nov-23-2016 04:20 PM
The TV: 2004 Ford F250 Super Duty, Crew Cab, Long Bed, 4x4, V10
The RV: Laredo by Keystone, 29BH
Wonderful wife
2 great kids
one spoiled English Bulldog
Nov-23-2016 03:41 PM
Bumpyroad wrote:jfkmk wrote:Bumpyroad wrote:
If allowing it in a moving RV, one should have worked out a "safe word" that the driver can scream indicating that the passenger should hit the deck immediately.
bumpy
You are joking, aren't you?
not at all. this is assuming that you allow folks to walk/move around while the vehicle is moving. if there is imminent danger, instead of politely taking your time to suggest the person moves to a seatbelted location, that they should hit the deck instead of still standing around.
bumpy
Nov-23-2016 02:04 PM
jfkmk wrote:Bumpyroad wrote:
If allowing it in a moving RV, one should have worked out a "safe word" that the driver can scream indicating that the passenger should hit the deck immediately.
bumpy
You are joking, aren't you?
Nov-23-2016 01:55 PM
Bumpyroad wrote:
If allowing it in a moving RV, one should have worked out a "safe word" that the driver can scream indicating that the passenger should hit the deck immediately.
bumpy