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wjschill
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Just brought home, new to us, 2014 Tiffin Open Road 36LA.

It has the original tires with lots of tread, but bad looking cracked sidewalls.

The original tires are Michelins 255/80R 22.5 GXRV. I want to replace with TOYO brand. Will the TOYO 265/75 22.5 work as the replacement?

Thanks.

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larry_cad
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TechWriter wrote:
larry cad wrote:
TechWriter wrote:
wjschill wrote:

Actually TOYO is a product of Japan, and most are built right here in the good ol' USA, in Georgia.

Um, better recheck that.


Wow!! That is an amazing list which seems to say, you probably don't know where your tires are made!


There's a tire code for that.

I have a feeling some of us will be surprised by the code on our tires.


I am blown away by that list. Who knew there were so many tire plants in the world.

Now we need a list of those plants with quality score cards. :B;):)
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TechWriter
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larry cad wrote:
TechWriter wrote:
wjschill wrote:

Actually TOYO is a product of Japan, and most are built right here in the good ol' USA, in Georgia.

Um, better recheck that.


Wow!! That is an amazing list which seems to say, you probably don't know where your tires are made!


There's a tire code for that.

I have a feeling some of us will be surprised by the code on our tires.
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larry_cad
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TechWriter wrote:
wjschill wrote:

Actually TOYO is a product of Japan, and most are built right here in the good ol' USA, in Georgia.

Um, better recheck that.


Wow!! That is an amazing list which seems to say, you probably don't know where your tires are made!

The problem with tires for RVs is that most "truck" tires are made to go 1000s of miles in a short time while RVers drive their tires 100s of miles in a very long time.

About 20 years ago Michelin tried to address that conflict with the XRV tire. Problem was the XRV would blow out at the steel cord area, and the steel cord was rusty when it did. Worst thing was that Michelin refused to cover the tire failure, blaming it on the owner/driver in any way they could, such as "too fast/too slow", or "low pressure/high pressure", and so on. After that, I vowed to never buy another Michelin.

I have a friend who is an executive in a major tire company, and he has nothing but good to say about the quality of Chinese truck tires.

It is a difficult situation for US tire brands.
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TechWriter
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wjschill wrote:

Actually TOYO is a product of Japan, and most are built right here in the good ol' USA, in Georgia.

Um, better recheck that.
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Tom_Barb
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wjschill wrote:
Tom/Barb...

Ease up dude..

Great thing about our country....We can have opinions without being put in front of a firing squad.

Life's short...Have fun!!

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wjschill
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Absolutely....

Way pass due!!

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wjschill
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Tom/Barb...

Ease up dude...Looks like someone pushed your buttons.

Actually TOYO is a product of Japan, and most are built right here in the good ol' USA, in Georgia.

The company has been in business for over 50 years.

Agree, the China bombs are a bad product, (ask me how I know).

I am just looking for something to replace the original Michelins, as these have some very bad sidewall cracking.

Our MH will be for two or three week trips, not full timing.

Great thing about our country....We can have opinions without being put in front of a firing squad.

Life's short...Have fun!!

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Tom_Barb
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William B wrote:
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Pangaea Ron wrote:
I also changed my Michelins with Toyo's. Michelin has had issues with sidewall deterioration.


Do you have a reference for that?

I've had 2 set of Michelins, they give a softer ride, and longer life.


Yeah, I had 3 sets crack badly after 3 1/2 years, enough I didn't want to drive on them anymore. Michelin gave me credit one time, and I switched to Toyo's and will never use Michelin again.
And as far as Michelin is a softer ride both my wife and I feel we are getting a better ride with the Toyo's.


I'll take minor cracking any day over blow outs on a china bomb.

They got that nick name for a reason.

OBTW my Michelins had 11 years on them, and no cracking.
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William_B
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Tom/Barb wrote:
Pangaea Ron wrote:
I also changed my Michelins with Toyo's. Michelin has had issues with sidewall deterioration.


Do you have a reference for that?

I've had 2 set of Michelins, they give a softer ride, and longer life.


Yeah, I had 3 sets crack badly after 3 1/2 years, enough I didn't want to drive on them anymore. Michelin gave me credit one time, and I switched to Toyo's and will never use Michelin again.
And as far as Michelin is a softer ride both my wife and I feel we are getting a better ride with the Toyo's.
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MountainAir05
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Michelin 275/70R22.5 XZA2 these seem the closet. But you need to look at the rims and see what every you want is for your rims size.

MountainAir05
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wjschill wrote:
Just brought home, new to us, 2014 Tiffin Open Road 36LA.

It has the original tires with lots of tread, but bad looking cracked sidewalls.

The original tires are Michelins 255/80R 22.5 GXRV. I want to replace with TOYO brand. Will the TOYO 265/75 22.5 work as the replacement?

Thanks.

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Check you rim size first

Pangaea_Ron
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Tom/Barb wrote:
Pangaea Ron wrote:
I also changed my Michelins with Toyo's. Michelin has had issues with sidewall deterioration.


Do you have a reference for that?

I've had 2 set of Michelins, they give a softer ride, and longer life.


I agree that Michelins have a softer ride.

I can't seem to find an official reference, but Google "Michelin RV tire sidewall cracks" for lots of discussion of the issue.
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WILDEBILL308
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DrewE wrote:
There are a few considerations with changing tire sizes. It's hard or impossible to say which, if any, of these would cause you trouble without more information (specifically what information should be pretty obvious).

The overall diameter of the new tires is a slightly smaller, which means your speedometer and odometer will read about 1.5% higher than is correct--probably not enough to worry about.

The new tires are a little wider; there are a couple of potential concerns with that. First, if the rims are not wide enough, it may not be safe to use the wider tires with them; however, I highly doubt that would be any concern as it's not a big change in width. Perhaps more likely is that the clearance between the dually tires may become too small, leading to rubbing and/or overly reduced heat dissipation.

Finally, you also need to check the weight handling capacities of the two tires, and ensure the new ones are sufficient (and at pressures that are within the limits of your wheels). I doubt there is a lot of difference there, so you're most likely fine here.

My hunch is that the new size would be perfectly acceptable, but do double-check with someone who really knows what they're doing or talking about (rather than just me). If you happen to have a spare, whether mounted or otherwise, it needs to be the same basic size as the others, of course.


If you go to the site I posted to it will give you all that info (except weight rating) so you can compare and see if the tiers will work for you.
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