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Top Class Bs for towing?

rlb8s
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I enjoyed reading this thread about the top three Bs ( Top three Class B). Since it only focused on build quality I wonder if or how the list would change if you added the variable of towing into the mix. I am searching for a B to pull my boat for short camping/fishing trips. I had PW Lexor and regret selling her and we are back to searching. My wife likes the looks of the vans (PW Lexor or Roadtrek Popular 190), while I like the PW Exel or RT 210 sizes or even the Winnebago Travato if only they weren't V6 w/ only 3500 tow capacity. So lets hear it, how would you rate them for towing? Thanks.
12 RoadTrek 210 Simplicity - named E-Pod
05 GMC 3500 SRW Crew Cab LB
10 Bass Cat Puma w/ 250 Mercury ProXS

Previous RVs -
14 Livin Lite 8.6
13 Pleasure-Way Lexor TS Class B
13 Tioga Montara 25K Class C
09 Lance 915 Truck Camper
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lee_mayhan
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I have a RT 210 Chev.with a 6.0 and it has plenty of power.

pasusan
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Were you able to pick it up? If so - give us some pics!

Susan & Ben [2004 Roadtrek 170]
href="https://sites.google.com/view/pasusan-trips/home" target="_blank">Trip Pics

fullmoonoversal
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rlb8s wrote:
Decision made. Found a 2012 Roadtrek w/ 6.0 that I am picking up on Tuesday. Can't wait.




Congratulations! May you have many miles of good times and memories.
2017 Coachmen Galleria

rlb8s
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Decision made. Found a 2012 Roadtrek w/ 6.0 that I am picking up on Tuesday. Can't wait.
12 RoadTrek 210 Simplicity - named E-Pod
05 GMC 3500 SRW Crew Cab LB
10 Bass Cat Puma w/ 250 Mercury ProXS

Previous RVs -
14 Livin Lite 8.6
13 Pleasure-Way Lexor TS Class B
13 Tioga Montara 25K Class C
09 Lance 915 Truck Camper

Kayteg1
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magicbus wrote:
I'm impressed with to Sprinter torque. It does really well in hilly country without a lot of automatic downshifting so I suspect it would tow well. BTW, the paddle shift is nice for using the engine to brake coming down hills.

Dave


I am converting long and tall Sprinter into ClassB and when everybody is amazed with torque my 4-cylinder delivers and even more with 22 mpg, the van doesn't have strong frame for lot of hitch weight.
On Sprinter forum you will find report that when hitch-equipped Sprinter was rear-ended, without excessive damage to rear door, the uniframe bend over the axle.
From what I read, the 5000 lb rated hitch is derated to 3500lb for the application.
MB also has "hill descent" programs who will keep the speed set on CC. It used turbo fins as exhaust brake. Did not try it on Sprinter yet, but all cars from 20 years have it.

PAThwacker
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We just purchased at auction a 2015 triple E MB Sprinted FS22SS. 3500 series sprinter with slide-out hidden in sprinter factory body and rear dry bathroom. The holy grail class b. What’s the tow rating on 3.0 liter sprinter 3500 series and slide out?
2015 Keystone Springdale Summerland 257rl
Tow vehicle: 2003 GMC K1500 ext lb
Previous: 14 years of 3 popups and a hybrid tt

fullmoonoversal
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We traveled cross country pulling a 15 foot trailer with home goods in our Galleria - Sprinter 3500 from AK to NY and back. We checked with the Sprinter dealer and the RV dealership to be sure that the van could to it. They kind of laughed and told us it was fine. We did add Sumos to the springs so that helped the handling. So when we had the van checked after arriving back in Alaska, the Sprinter people said that the van was in good shape. Before leaving AK, and again before heading back from NY, we had the brakes and other things gone over. When we got back we had them check brakes again and they were still fine.

The van weathered the trip better than my DH. If I you have ever driven the Ice Fields Parkway, you might understand his anxiety.
2017 Coachmen Galleria

rlb8s
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I wonder how the Ford Transit with the Eco Boost in the towing department. The Coachman Beyond 22RB has gotten my attention.
12 RoadTrek 210 Simplicity - named E-Pod
05 GMC 3500 SRW Crew Cab LB
10 Bass Cat Puma w/ 250 Mercury ProXS

Previous RVs -
14 Livin Lite 8.6
13 Pleasure-Way Lexor TS Class B
13 Tioga Montara 25K Class C
09 Lance 915 Truck Camper

retraite
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We wrestled with many of the same towing questions when we were looking some years ago.

At the time, for a class B, the options were Chevrolet 6.0 power, Ford V10 power, Sprinter 2500 (single wheel rear), or some version of Dodge if it were used. All the "new" units at the time were either Chevrolet, Ford or Sprinter based.

We quickly ruled out Sprinters as the tongue weight would have put the rear axle over it's limits - so no way. (The newer dual wheel Sprinter "might" have won at the time, but there were none yet.)

So, that left Ford and Chevrolet as we didn't want "used".

One of the key measurements was the distance between the centerline of the rear axle and the centerline of the ball on the ball mount. The Fords had a shorter wheelbase, so a longer C/L to C/L measurement. The Chevrolet was 15 inches shorter C/L to C/L.

The shorter the C/L to C/L measurement, the less sway and better control one has over the towed unit. Also, the shorter the measurement, the less weight is put on the rear axle (since more is transferred forward).

Flat and level towing - OK, it's not a big deal. But, in the mountains, twisty roads, downhill, etc. - it's a bigger deal.

Along the way, I asked my wife to sit in the passenger's seat of both a Ford and a Chevrolet. I asked her to sit there for one hour. Take a book with you if you like, but sit there for one hour.

The passenger footwell in the Ford is VERY small and confining. The Chevrolet footwell is MUCH more comfortable for the passenger. The driver's footwell is comparable in both.

My wife didn't make it an hour in the Ford, got out and said "no way".

So, the numbers for the Chevrolet made better sense, and she was comfortable, so now it was just finding the upfitter, floor plan, and options we wanted.

We looked and looked and looked and - well you get the idea. But we kept looking.

Quite on a whim, we stopped at a dealer about 100 miles from us, took a look, and it was right - down to the details. It took about three minutes to make the deal, we left, went back a week later with our checkbook and we still have the unit. No regrets. The work we did upfront has borne smiles year after year.

FWIW, the factory hitch is 10,000 lb. But the "rated" (owing to the weights added by the upfitter) towing capacity is only 5,000 lbs, so as to stay within the Chevrolet GCWR.

We also added a proportional brake controller for the trailer brakes, a thermostatically controlled ATF cooler with dual fans, independent air bags on the rear axle, and a few other smaller items.

We have a 2008 PW Lexor with 6.0 power and a 4 speed transmission.

My wife and I are a couple of happy clams (or is that campers) with it.

rlb8s
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Does anyone know the towing capacity of a 2005 Gulf Stream B TOURING CRUISER 5211 with the chevy V8 option? According to the archive brochures on their website the chevy V8 option increases the GVWR to 12,300 from the standard V10 which has a GVWR of 10,700 lbs. The current owner thinks the towing capacity is 5k, but I saw a you tube video walk through by an RV dealer who said it was 3,500 lb towing capacity but that was w/ the Ford V-10. Anyone? Thanks.
12 RoadTrek 210 Simplicity - named E-Pod
05 GMC 3500 SRW Crew Cab LB
10 Bass Cat Puma w/ 250 Mercury ProXS

Previous RVs -
14 Livin Lite 8.6
13 Pleasure-Way Lexor TS Class B
13 Tioga Montara 25K Class C
09 Lance 915 Truck Camper

magicbus
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I'm impressed with to Sprinter torque. It does really well in hilly country without a lot of automatic downshifting so I suspect it would tow well. BTW, the paddle shift is nice for using the engine to brake coming down hills.

Dave
Current: 2018 Winnebago Era A
Previous: Selene 49 Trawler
Previous: Country Coach Allure 36

FunTwoDrv
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Since it appears to be rated to tow 5k, I suspect it will do just fine with anything below that number. The one thing I have learned is not to be in a hurry with these things. It will get you to your destination, just have to set a pace that is comfortable to you and isn't "pushing" your rig too hard. Just my opinion.
Gary

rlb8s
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Thanks Gary.

I wonder how the 3.0L 6-cylinder, 188-hp, diesel engine, 5-speed automatic Tip Shift transmission would do towing? I keep getting drawn to the Winnebago ERA 70A floor plan and the mpg of the sprinter is attractive.
12 RoadTrek 210 Simplicity - named E-Pod
05 GMC 3500 SRW Crew Cab LB
10 Bass Cat Puma w/ 250 Mercury ProXS

Previous RVs -
14 Livin Lite 8.6
13 Pleasure-Way Lexor TS Class B
13 Tioga Montara 25K Class C
09 Lance 915 Truck Camper

FunTwoDrv
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Just a little info on the Chevy. We have a 32' C powered by the 6.0 with the 6sp. It pulls itself along with a 4400lb Jeep just fine...and, it can squeak out 9.5mpg. Very happy with it. Oh, and the ride is decent as well. Although, we did add Bilsteins and Sumos to get it to handle the way I wanted it to.

Gary