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Total Rebuild of a 1979 Dodge Class C

oldtrucker63
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I would say some of you have seen the start of this build that my brother bgriffey had posted, Well I have now bought the RV from him and plan to post the pixs of the build I have found a lot of rot in this RV I have torn out everything on the inside and have the rear opened up and the skin off the lower driver side, I will be buying a camera for my wife for christmas and im sure she will take the pixs if I can learn HOW to post them on here, Please remember its winter here in Kentucky so it will be slow but we will keep the pixs coming, Like I said this will be a total build from floor to walls and roof and custom inside build so I would appreciate all the help I can get this will be my first build and I will be learning as I go so any info will help. THANKS......Tony Griffey.

A new RV can be very expensive and if you already own an outdated RV then you should just consider a complete RV remodel which can be a significant amount of money cheaper than the cost of a brand new model. If you are retired and use your RV to travel then why not save the money for your travels rather than on spending a large chunk of money on a brand new travelling vacation home. When you decide to have an RV remodel done you can have your old model completely gutted and rebuilt to look just like a newer RV and when the work is done you will not even recognize your old mobile home. Going about having a new RV to travel in this way can save you thousands of dollars and you will not have to worry about the payments on a brand new RV home. Many retired people are travelling this way nowadays so they can travel the country and be comfortable while doing it, and there are many others that own these vehicles that they will take on summer family camping trips. The RVโ€™s that are made today are unbelievable and have all of the luxuries of home at a fraction of the size, these make it great fir families and retired folks to travel comfortably, and having an RV remodel done you can make your old RV look just like a brand new one.

Statistics show that the amount of registered RV homes on the road is growing steadily every year, and much of this is due to the baby boomer generation retiring and wanting to travel the country in comfort and style. Having an RV remodel can make your RV brand new. Some things you may want to consider is having all new beds and appliances put in. Since RV appliances are smaller than your normal home kitchen appliances they are much cheaper, and a complete RV remodel will probably cost you anywhere from $5,000 to $12,000, depending on how many changes are being done. The latter price could even be a little more if you are having your RV completely gutted and redesigned. It will still save you a lot of money over purchasing a new RV home. Another thing to consider during your RV remodel is if you plan on just remodeling the inside or if you want to have the exterior redone as well, and if this is the case the project will cost more money but will still be cheaper than buying a new RV. Most of these vacationing and traveling vehicles have a type of siding on them, and the more modern ones are sometimes made of more durable fibreglasses and plastics, these materials are very nice since you do not ever have to worry about rusting.

If you plan on getting a loan out for this remodeling job then you will first want to get various estimates, much like a home remodeling project. Once you get all the estimates you want you can then apply for the amount of money through your financial institution or credit union. The amount of money you need should not be hard for you to get approved for, especially if you have good credit. If you are a retired individual you most likely can take the money out of your pension or 401 funds, and this would be your best bet due to interest rates. Usually the place where you originally bought the RV can do the remodel for you as well, and if they cannot they can usually refer you to someone who can do the job for you. With the popularity of these vehicles constantly growing there are also many new dealerships and shops that specialize in these vacation vehicles. Having a comfortable vehicle to travel year round in or to just vacation in yearly is a great asset and can also be a great stress reliever. It is also a very popular vehicle for families to use on family camping trips, and the nice thing is that if the kids want to rough it while camping they can just sent their tents up right outside the RV.
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John_H
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Its very important for all most all workers to have a avocation, hobby,diversification, what ever the term used to take one away from the every day repetitive grind & wearing down that is ones job. Doctors to street cleaners. Kind of a break to refresh. From very close to page one I guessed that this was your pick for just such a challenge & change. Kind of get your self involved in a rather large challenge that also would have a rewarding side benifet . Of being able to enjoy the final fruits of you labor. To get out there somewhere where you & your family could enjoy your time off, maybe somewhere you 'all have never been. knowing once you were finished, as far as you were con serened, "No stone was left unturned", it was put back together the way it should have been in the first place.Time has a way of closing the gap from the beginning to the end that we sometime do not pay that much attention too. In other words," we are not getting any younger". So Trucker, do not let that drudgery of work coupled with time, both out there on the road, and in that unfinished framing out there in your yard, shake you from the original picture you had, there is 94 pages of pertisipants wishing & urging you towards that day when............Well,,,,from here I certainly can hear & see that champain bottle crashing against that front bumper.
John H

oldtrucker63
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Well maybe I just don't like lazy truck drivers, I'm getting tired of filling in.
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oldtrucker63
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I hate Trucks.....................................:M
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lzasitko wrote:
I am not a professional driver but I believe in courtesy while on the road. If I see anyone sitting on the side of the road I will stop and see if they need help. I used to drive a main highway all the time and can't count how many times I have helped people, sometimes its an easy fix and sometimes much harder.

I will always pull over and let faster people through (if there is enough shoulder width and it is safe to do so) I have seen too many impatient people that pass on a double solid line or evan worst on a bend. figure it safer for me to let them go than have that behind me and taking risks. At the same time I try to keep to the speed limit (where I live it's 110 kms/hr or just shy of 70 mph) so I don't hold others up.
courtesy is the main thing and something that every one should practice..............Be safe.
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lzasitko
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I am not a professional driver but I believe in courtesy while on the road. If I see anyone sitting on the side of the road I will stop and see if they need help. I used to drive a main highway all the time and can't count how many times I have helped people, sometimes its an easy fix and sometimes much harder.

I will always pull over and let faster people through (if there is enough shoulder width and it is safe to do so) I have seen too many impatient people that pass on a double solid line or evan worst on a bend. figure it safer for me to let them go than have that behind me and taking risks. At the same time I try to keep to the speed limit (where I live it's 110 kms/hr or just shy of 70 mph) so I don't hold others up.

oldtrucker63
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Its such a nice day out today I would like to get some work finished on this old dodge today but we have plans to go to the park and let the baby play today and I have been busy with helping a buddy of mine and have not had time to do anything so ya'll don't give up on me there is a lot more comming on this Old Dodge.
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oldtrucker63
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skimask wrote:
All very true.
I can operate heavy equipment/trucks, had an afternoon class awhile back on the basic operation of them, took a one day class on driving a school bus. But in no way do I qualify myself to be a trucker or a school bus driver. My daily driver is an '88 Chevy Sprint (1500lbs), so I watch my a$$ on the roads. My drive home is on a heavily traveled 2 lane highway (hiway 52 in ND), lots of rigs. My turnoff is a left turn, so most of the time I have to stop for oncoming traffic. If I've got a rig behind me, I don't even bother going left. I'll get over and make a right, doing a u-turn and go across so the rig behind me doesn't have to stop and wait for me. I'm the guy that stops at the stop sign 50ft or so back, so the trucker doesn't have to swing wide on a left turn or, conversely, can swing wide on a right turn. I'm the guy that hugs the right side of my lane on a 2 lane road just to give the big rig a bit more room and not have to worry about the other clown (me in this case!). I'm the guy that follows far enough back to be out of the slip-stream of a rig and over to one side of the other so the guy in the rig can see me in his mirrors. I'm the guy (and some truckers might not like this so much, but I think my intentions are good) that might pass a rig on the interstate on an uphill and maybe slip into the rig's lane a bit too soon to help the rig cut thru the wind a bit better so he doesn't lose so much speed on that uphill, then get the hell out of the way on the downhill side!
I see so many soccer mom's (not limited to soccer mom's though), busy yakking on their cell phones, cut off so many rigs, just plain not giving a damn, really pi$$e$ me off.
And I'm finished...

Note on the soldering...thought of this earlier today...
If you are planning on soldering wiring together and that wiring is going to be used on 120v circuits, try to file down any sharp edges on the joints, either the wires or the solder itself. In that course I took, the books mentioned that high voltage solder joints (i.e. > about 50v) are soldered a little bit differently, specifically no sharp edges. Sparks and arcs generally start from sharp edges, not to mention it's a source of abrasion for the overlying covering.

JDG
First let me Thank you for your professional driving habits, There is not many drivers like you including the truck drivers and I did say drivers not Truckers, Please don't ever let the drivers change your style of driving by doing the way a lot of them do Because the Real Truckers really love to see people like you. and all of us has to take care of the ones that do not know how. One thing I allways keep in my mind is What if that was my wife and kids in that car, A true professional Trucker will take care of all vehicles around him/her
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oldtrucker63
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John H wrote:
Hello Trucker,
Took Hores Greeley advise and went camping way out west for three wheeks, only got WI-Fi in a couple of places, thus my bref earlier post.
I like skimask thoughts and for sure his inputs. My wife shortly out of HS went to work for Bendix. Several month into this employment, Bendix pick several for a psych. test then sending a small groop to a school, then to an extended school for a small few out of these, sodering wires and asseb. looms for clasified aircraft. from what I had done building Heath Kits many moon's ago, then what she passed on to me from what they tought her...Well like I said to you earlier, there are right ways & wrong ways to do just about every thing. Also as I said earlier, (and intresting what my wife just said) there are as many ways as doing thing the wrong way as ther are indivigals that seem to live by this code saying, "Aw, thats good enougf,just let it go", when rairly it is. No blame here, it just takes all kinds to make up this world. That is why she said Bendix had a psych. test.

Oh, one more thing on drivers, My father (over the road trucker) tought me lots of years back, that when the 18 wheelers are struggling to pass you, that stack billering and a roaring in a hard pull, and as traffic is building behind him. He has to see you in his right cab mirror to get back into your lane. Reach down and grab your light switch when he clears you and turn you head lights on & off signaling him that its ok he has cleared & it is safe to cut back into your lane. Here is the point that was made earlier----A older trucker NEVER, NEVER FAILS to say thank you, he will ALWAYS blink his rigs back light many times to thank you and to acknoladge your kindness. But you know, on this trip..... those older road knights are getting fewer, as a lot did not blink there lights back to me. Probabley never knew why my lights were going of & then on several times.

So ture it sure takes all kinds to make this old world go round. On the so called truckers that do not blink back to thank you for your safty tip, Its because they did not see you flash your lights, There is so many these days with tunnel vision so all they see is in front, Yes you would think a flashing light could not be missed, Well they do not see the flash, I do not know why but beleive me they don't see you flash your lights most of the time and if a driver can not see that then what else can he not see, Go out on the Interstate and folow some trucks around watch every move they make, Then find that big shinny Peterbilt maybe one with a spread axel on the rear trailor or a Bull/Cow Hauler and folow one of these Trucks around and watch the style and its easy to tell the Trucker from the Drivers.
The Interstate is a very dangerous place But get in between 5 or 6 big rigs ( Larg Cars ) They call them and your as safe as being at home in your chair. CB Required.
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skimask
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All very true.
I can operate heavy equipment/trucks, had an afternoon class awhile back on the basic operation of them, took a one day class on driving a school bus. But in no way do I qualify myself to be a trucker or a school bus driver. My daily driver is an '88 Chevy Sprint (1500lbs), so I watch my a$$ on the roads. My drive home is on a heavily traveled 2 lane highway (hiway 52 in ND), lots of rigs. My turnoff is a left turn, so most of the time I have to stop for oncoming traffic. If I've got a rig behind me, I don't even bother going left. I'll get over and make a right, doing a u-turn and go across so the rig behind me doesn't have to stop and wait for me. I'm the guy that stops at the stop sign 50ft or so back, so the trucker doesn't have to swing wide on a left turn or, conversely, can swing wide on a right turn. I'm the guy that hugs the right side of my lane on a 2 lane road just to give the big rig a bit more room and not have to worry about the other clown (me in this case!). I'm the guy that follows far enough back to be out of the slip-stream of a rig and over to one side of the other so the guy in the rig can see me in his mirrors. I'm the guy (and some truckers might not like this so much, but I think my intentions are good) that might pass a rig on the interstate on an uphill and maybe slip into the rig's lane a bit too soon to help the rig cut thru the wind a bit better so he doesn't lose so much speed on that uphill, then get the hell out of the way on the downhill side!
I see so many soccer mom's (not limited to soccer mom's though), busy yakking on their cell phones, cut off so many rigs, just plain not giving a damn, really pi$$e$ me off.
And I'm finished...

Note on the soldering...thought of this earlier today...
If you are planning on soldering wiring together and that wiring is going to be used on 120v circuits, try to file down any sharp edges on the joints, either the wires or the solder itself. In that course I took, the books mentioned that high voltage solder joints (i.e. > about 50v) are soldered a little bit differently, specifically no sharp edges. Sparks and arcs generally start from sharp edges, not to mention it's a source of abrasion for the overlying covering.

JDG

John_H
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Hello Trucker,
Took Hoace Greeley advise and went camping way out west for three wheeks, only got WI-Fi in a couple of places, thus my bref earlier post.
I like skimask thoughts and for sure his inputs. My wife shortly out of HS went to work for Bendix. Several month into this employment, Bendix pick several for a psych. test then sending a small groop to a school, then to an extended school for a small few out of these, sodering wires and asseb. looms for clasified aircraft. from what I had done building Heath Kits many moon's ago, then what she passed on to me from what they tought her...Well like I said to you earlier, there are right ways & wrong ways to do just about every thing. Also as I said earlier, (and intresting what my wife just said) there are as many ways as doing thing the wrong way as ther are indivigals that seem to live by this code saying, "Aw, thats good enougf,just let it go", when rairly it is. No blame here, it just takes all kinds to make up this world. That is why she said Bendix had a psych. test.

Oh, one more thing on drivers, My father (over the road trucker) tought me lots of years back, that when the 18 wheelers are struggling to pass you, that stack billering and a roaring in a hard pull, and as traffic is building behind him. He has to see you in his right cab mirror to get back into your lane. Reach down and grab your light switch when he clears you and turn you head lights on & off signaling him that its ok he has cleared & it is safe to cut back into your lane. Here is the point that was made earlier----A older trucker NEVER, NEVER FAILS to say thank you, he will ALWAYS blink his rigs back light many times to thank you and to acknoladge your kindness. But you know, on this trip..... those older road knights are getting fewer, as a lot did not blink there lights back to me. Probabley never knew why my lights were going of & then on several times.
John H

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Drive the coal fields of KY and WV for a few years, then you can call yourself a driver!
I drove heavy hauler for years down in that part of the country, if you can share those roads with Coal Buckets and School Buses without running over or getting run over, you can call yourself a driver.
The thing I admired most was, those coal haulers all looked out for each other, something you don't see much of these days anymore.
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oldtrucker63
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skimask wrote:
oldtrucker63 wrote:
This is just what I was talking about a few pages back, Its like having a bunch of professionals right on your team and the information is endless, Thanks for the (Just the right touch) To make sure its right.........I just love this RV Forum.:B


Professional??? I don't know about that!! Maybe, just maybe, a really good amateur here with a very very narrow specialty. Well, ok, actually, I'm fairly sure I'm only one of 3 people in ND (as many as 10 if you include MN, SD, MT, WY, and IA) that currently hold an active certification of this kind, and the other 2 here in ND aren't practicing the art anymore.

At any rate, simply put, you don't REALLY need all that information above.
A dirty iron with dirty wires using dirty solder just plain won't make a good connection of anything.
If you've got a clean soldering iron with a clean tip, working on clean wires, with clean hands, and clean solder, you're 99% in there...

JDG
LOL....Yeah Like you say (ART) Like myself being a Trucker for 30 years and I would say its an Art, They take people into schools these days for 6 weeks and send them out and call them truck drivers.........Yea Right.....Some can drive just enough to get to and from and some can't drive at all, The Interstate is a Danger zone these days............Anyway I too would call this an Art and there is not that many that has Aced the Art, Its a big difference in a Truck Driver and a Trucker as in anything people do, Like a Fire Man and a Fire Fighter or a Guy that runs a chain saw and a Logger, Hope That don't offend anyone but thats the art of things...LOL..Right, Anyway thanks for the great info its a big help because there is so many things that I don't know the art to and its people like you that help me to put a little art into this old Dodge. Thanks all.;)
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skimask
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oldtrucker63 wrote:
This is just what I was talking about a few pages back, Its like having a bunch of professionals right on your team and the information is endless, Thanks for the (Just the right touch) To make sure its right.........I just love this RV Forum.:B


Professional??? I don't know about that!! Maybe, just maybe, a really good amateur here with a very very narrow specialty. Well, ok, actually, I'm fairly sure I'm only one of 3 people in ND (as many as 10 if you include MN, SD, MT, WY, and IA) that currently hold an active certification of this kind, and the other 2 here in ND aren't practicing the art anymore.

At any rate, simply put, you don't REALLY need all that information above.
A dirty iron with dirty wires using dirty solder just plain won't make a good connection of anything.
If you've got a clean soldering iron with a clean tip, working on clean wires, with clean hands, and clean solder, you're 99% in there...

JDG

oldtrucker63
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skimask wrote:
oldtrucker63 wrote:
Yeah Keeping an offset is a good ideal,.....Thanks. Wiring is important to get right the first time, With no headache in the future.

Use RMA (rosin mildly activated) flux, NOT PIPE FLUX, to ensure a good heat transfer from the soldering iron to the connection, and make sure you're using a good quality 60/40 tin/lead rosin-core solder (63/37 is ok too, but is better for tiny stuff). Use plenty of rubbing alcohol to clean the excess flux off the joint after soldering, scrub it off with a small paint brush, before sealing it up. If you're soldering two stranded wires together, best method is to 'bird-cage' both sets of wires, fan the strands out on each wire, then basically jam them together, give them a bit of a twist, then solder them together. That way you get the maximum metal-to-metal contact, the best 'alloy' reaction between the solder and the copper, and really good mechanical strength as well as optimal electrical connection.

/own horn tooting = on
I've had a 2M/CCR certification for about 6 years now. Initially, spent an intensive 6 weeks in a class in Tucson, staring under a microscope, learning how to solder perfectly, repair circuit boards, etc, one of the highest levels of certifications for this type of work available anywhere. The recertification every 18 months is a pain 'cause I usually do the difficult work, but it keeps me on my toes.
/own horn tooting = off ๐Ÿ™‚

Jist of the story, you'd be amazed at what damage left-over flux can do to wiring...It just rots it away over time, breaks down insulation, invites corrosion...Just bad news all the way around.

/brain frying = done ๐Ÿ™‚
JDG

This is just what I was talking about a few pages back, Its like having a bunch of professionals right on your team and the information is endless, Thanks for the (Just the right touch) To make sure its right.........I just love this RV Forum.:B
Without Trucks,....America Stop's

skimask
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oldtrucker63 wrote:
Yeah Keeping an offset is a good ideal,.....Thanks. Wiring is important to get right the first time, With no headache in the future.

Use RMA (rosin mildly activated) flux, NOT PIPE FLUX, to ensure a good heat transfer from the soldering iron to the connection, and make sure you're using a good quality 60/40 tin/lead rosin-core solder (63/37 is ok too, but is better for tiny stuff). Use plenty of rubbing alcohol to clean the excess flux off the joint after soldering, scrub it off with a small paint brush, before sealing it up. If you're soldering two stranded wires together, best method is to 'bird-cage' both sets of wires, fan the strands out on each wire, then basically jam them together, give them a bit of a twist, then solder them together. That way you get the maximum metal-to-metal contact, the best 'alloy' reaction between the solder and the copper, and really good mechanical strength as well as optimal electrical connection.

/own horn tooting = on
I've had a 2M/CCR certification for about 6 years now. Initially, spent an intensive 6 weeks in a class in Tucson, staring under a microscope, learning how to solder perfectly, repair circuit boards, etc, one of the highest levels of certifications for this type of work available anywhere. The recertification every 18 months is a pain 'cause I usually do the difficult work, but it keeps me on my toes.
/own horn tooting = off ๐Ÿ™‚

Jist of the story, you'd be amazed at what damage left-over flux can do to wiring...It just rots it away over time, breaks down insulation, invites corrosion...Just bad news all the way around.

/brain frying = done ๐Ÿ™‚
JDG