Unsafe At Any Speed With Pics

[timmac]

Saw this at a casino parking lot, hitch extension was about 2 feet long and almost bent at hitch, safety chains way under weight, trailer looked over loaded, axels looked like only 3000 pound axels, lights were bad, motorhome was a newer Ford F-53 chassis {gas} and look at what he was carrying.

[timmac]

lbligh wrote:
Timmac,

Hopefully you follow your own advice? After all, clearly your rig is non-compliant with its ratings. You know the old saying... people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Right?

Yes I am about 800 to 1000 lbs over the Fleetwood towing rate of 5000 lbs but Ford did give the chassis towing rate at 5500 lbs, and if you take a look at my post I have spent monies to make it as safe as possible and added extra weight carrying to the trailer, hitch, receiver, safety chains, electric safety brake away switch, 4 electric brakes, heavy duty tires and added more metal frame under motorhome with air bags.

My point is if your a little over weight but went the extra distance to make sure the trailer, tow vehicle and towing equipment exceeds what you are carrying/towing than you are doing good and I or most anyone else would not comment, but when its done like the 1st post on this thread than it needs to be corrected or just stay off the road..



MY SETUP ABOVE...

[barmcd]

Tom N wrote:

Wow, just wow. I think the stuff in front is to drop the front end a little.

I saw an old gas Bounder sail through town the other day. They weren't towing anything, but they had a lot of stuff tied all over it.

[AllegroD]

I hope that someone does see this and realize that the risk they are taking is not just their own. The risk and danger is to everyone on the road. The risk is probably of more danger to the people traveling behind them than to themselves. They would lose property but those behind could lose life and limb. Just because someone is living in a MH does not give them the right to hit the road in an unsafe manner. Not saying they would but that is what this discussion is about. Safe traveling.

We had an ATV pop off a trailer in front of us, doing 75-80 when they passed us. Luckily I had noticed a strap lose and had backed off, just before it popped off the trailer. We went to the inside lane and the 18 wheeler behind us went to the shoulder. All ended OK but could have been disastrous.

Thank you for posting this and starting this discussion.

[Trumpet_Player]

Timmac,

Hopefully you follow your own advice? After all, clearly your rig is non-compliant with its ratings. You know the old saying... people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Right?

timmac wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:

You are opening whole can of worms here as law differ from state to state.
In California any trailer above 1500lb has to have brakes and break-away system. Few years back I was shopping around for equipment hauler in Nebraska and was offered brand new 7000 lb trailer with no brakes.
Chains are another story. Even trailers with heavier chains, have U-hooks on the end, who will straight up on any drop (ask me how do I know).
Bottom line, you have the right to your concerns, but bashing somebody on the internet for something you are not allow to judge can bring some legal consequences and is brushing the ethics.
I think with real concern, you should point the set to an officer.

How is pointing out a possible accident in the making is going to bring legal issues, we all learn from post like this, maybe the owner of this trailer might see this post and realize his mistake and fix the problem before somebody dies or is injured..

[nevadanick]

There was probably nothing LEO could do and most wouldnt even know what the problem was. I called CHP in Ca once asking about what weight could be hauled in an F350 where i worked for awhile. His answer was as long as not over tire rating and the bumper wasnt dragging on the ground i could haul all i wanted. Legally the guy is probably doing nothing wrong. Could a good commercial officer find something ? Sure but could they be stopped ?

[John_Joey]

Ductape wrote:
If we observe a DUI in progress, should we notify LE, or should we post photos on the web?

Unsafe? I think we have a consensus on that.

The response? Not so much.

Disclaimer: didn't read all the previous posts; don't intend to. 😉

Good point, but you overlooked the fact that there was nothing "in progress." This was a parked MH/tow. Now if it was swaying going down the road and the ATV fell off, maybe the response would be what you expect.

[Ductape]

If we observe a DUI in progress, should we notify LE, or should we post photos on the web?

Unsafe? I think we have a consensus on that.

The response? Not so much.

Disclaimer: didn't read all the previous posts; don't intend to. 😉

[Ivylog]

45Ricochet... X2. Looks like they are moving their selves. Take all of the STUFF (except the flag) off the Airstream and the Jeep... what would you see? Would your first impression be the same?

[45Ricochet]

Alex
Maybe a little compassion for those not quite as lucky as ourselves. Clearly this is their S&B and everything they own. Safe weights? most likely not but they are trying to not live under a bridge. All the while with a USA flag proudly displayed.
Count your blessings

[Kayteg1]

timmac wrote:


Are you the owner of this rig ?? :h

Nope.
Are you? :@

[alexleblanc]

Tom N wrote:

What the heck are they dragging all that junk and plants along, looks like actual garbage on those "racks"

[timmac]

Kayteg1 wrote:
There is thin line somewhere in it and I would bet moderators are calling forum lawyers as we speak 😉
When there is nothing wrong taking a picture of poorly chosen bar, once you catch a coach on the picture or God forbid licence plate, that is whole new game.

Are you the owner of this rig ?? :h

[Kayteg1]

There is thin line somewhere in it and I would bet moderators are calling forum lawyers as we speak 😉
When there is nothing wrong taking a picture of poorly chosen bar, once you catch a coach on the picture or God forbid licence plate, that is whole new game.

[timmac]

Kayteg1 wrote:

You are opening whole can of worms here as law differ from state to state.
In California any trailer above 1500lb has to have brakes and break-away system. Few years back I was shopping around for equipment hauler in Nebraska and was offered brand new 7000 lb trailer with no brakes.
Chains are another story. Even trailers with heavier chains, have U-hooks on the end, who will straight up on any drop (ask me how do I know).
Bottom line, you have the right to your concerns, but bashing somebody on the internet for something you are not allow to judge can bring some legal consequences and is brushing the ethics.
I think with real concern, you should point the set to an officer.

How is pointing out a possible accident in the making is going to bring legal issues, we all learn from post like this, maybe the owner of this trailer might see this post and realize his mistake and fix the problem before somebody dies or is injured..