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If you need an inexpensive laptop, look at a Chromebook

Trackrig
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On a recent trip my laptop lost it's hard drive and I wasn't staying in any one location long enough to have it looked at. I called a couple of places and they wanted 7 - 10 days. I looked at buying a new laptop but didn't want to pay the 8.2% sales tax (Phoenix area) and I didn't have my discs with me to load programs like MS Office. I was going to be home in Alaska in several weeks where there isn't any sales tax, so I lived using my phone.

Anyway, when I got home a local computer shop only charged me $213 to put in a new 1T HD and that included labor. Since I had been looking at new laptops and wanting a back up unit from now on, I still wanted to buy something. The "something" that caught my attention were the Chrome books. I bought a Samsung Chrome book and so far it's been a perfect machine for emails and the internet. The local Best Buy matched Amazon's price of about $217 - you can't beat that and I didn't have to wait for it.

Because I use Gmail, about a year ago I accidently got Chrome on my Windows laptop. Since I didn't load it on purpose, I didn't realize what was going on and didn't know what Chrome even was since I didn't have any interest in it. Eventually I got it off of the laptop.

Because of the low cost, just about all of them are in the $2 - 300 range, I started looking at them as a back up unit. Chrome books have both advantages and disadvantages. And forgive me here for the items I miss as I've only owned mine for two weeks and am not a tech person.........

The Chrome book operates off of Wi-Fi only - it will not connect directly to the internet without going through Wi-Fi from the RV park, you home router, Starbucks, or you smart phone hotspot. And, your storage is on the cloud or an SD card.

NOTE: You cannot load any software onto a Chrome book - it is a locked or closed system. Chrome has it's own App site from which to download apps. Because Chrome books have a closed system, you don't need (that may be debatable) and can't load things like Norton anti virus software even if you wanted to. The closed system keeps the Chrome book secure. I believe Google has a $1.4M bounty out for anyone who can hack a Chrome book and no one has collected it yet. If you're using Windows XP and thinking about buying Windows 7 or 8, you can buy a new Chrome book for about the same cost.

And because it's closed, you aren't going to load MS Office, S&T or any other software on it either. There are Chrome apps to replace Excel and Word and of course there Google Mail and Calendar. All and all this is a big cost savings - have you looked at the cost of MS Office, Windows 7 or 8 and Norton 360 lately?

Pros
- Very lightweight, partially because the screen is 11.6", but it also doesn't have all of the hardware in it that a regular laptop has.
- Very good battery life, I've getting 7+ hours out of it
- The power supply is a lot lighter and smaller
- It has an HDMI port for plugging into a monitor or TV with an HDMI port, this actually then gives you dual monitors
- Has both a USB2 and 3 connection
- It will take an SD or mini-SD with an adaptor
- The volume control keys are better, they're separate keys so you don't have to also use the Control key
- Though the unit is smaller than my laptops, I have no problems using the keyboard and I have large hands. (I'm 6' 2") and the keyboard has a nice feel - it is not back lit.
- Start up time from pushing the button until it's ready to go is 15 seconds - have you timed your laptop lately?
- There's no cleaning up the Startup registry anymore
- You don't have to download MS's updates every month


Cons
- No optical disc drive, but then very few of the new laptops have them anymore
- The battery cannot be removed with a couple of buttons like my old laptops if I needed a second battery when on a long flight - but then none of the new laptops I looked at had changeable batteries either
- It doesn't have a dedicated Cap Lock key
- I haven't figured out how to scroll Page Up or Down
- I can't use my Western Digital Passport portable hard drives the way they are
- So far I haven't figured out if there's a GPS program for it, but I haven't really looked for one.
- The hard drive in it is very minimal (16gig) and is mostly taken up by Chrome. You have to store your info in the cloud though you can store it to a SD card (they're now up to 64GB for $47 at Costco) using an SD card adapter in one of the USB slots.
- Because of no storage except for an SD card, I wanted to use my Western Digital Passport hard drives. My understanding is I can make them work, but since I'm not a technical person, I think it's going to be a pain. Apparently I have to transfer the data from one HD to another, then reformat the empty hard drive and then put my info back on it. This is because Western Digital, like almost all of the other small hard drive makers, requires that the HD transfer some of the program to the laptop it's connected to. This doesn't work with a Chrome book because you can't load anything on it. The new formatting of the WD HD then won't transfer part of its program to the Chrome book. I'm also looking at a Seagate HD that creates its own hotspot and transfers the data wirelessly to a laptop without requiring any of its software to be loaded on the laptop. This wireless HD from Seagate is also neat because up to 7 people can access it at one time - think watching movies if everyone wants to watch a different movie at the same time.......
- For correcting typing errors, I found and use the backspace key, but so far haven't found a delete key to delete things in the going forward direction

Pros & Cons
- It will only print wirelessly

If you look at a Chrome book, I found out after I bought mine, there is one out there that has a larger internal hard drive, but the battery life is not as good. I think either Asus or Acer make it, but I haven't gone looking.

From now on, I'll travel with both my laptop and Chrome book. After using the CB for two weeks and starting to use the laptop again after getting it back yesterday, I think I'll be using the Chrome book more than the laptop.

Bottom line - this is a very good and inexpensive back up in case your laptop fails or someone else always seems to be using the laptop. You don't have to worry about spyware or being hacked. It seems high to me, but I read that 20% of new laptops being sold are running on Chrome. I thought I should learn more about it before I forced into it someday by Google.

Look at a Chrome book before you buy your next laptop so that you make an informed purchase.

Bill
Nodwell RN110 out moose hunting. 4-53 Detroit, Clark 5 spd, 40" wide tracks, 10:00x20 tires, 16,000# capacity, 22,000# weight. You know the mud is getting deep when it's coming in the doors.
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demoon
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It does update automatically, Bill. At least mine does.
I agree 100% with Trackrig. People do not do their research. The information out there is pretty clear what one of these units will, and will not do.

Trackrig
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SCR wrote:
Make sure you update the system on your Chrome Book Chrome OS Security Holes Patched



Thanks, I'll take a look at this. I thought the updates would be pushed automatically to the Chrome book? More research.

Bill
Nodwell RN110 out moose hunting. 4-53 Detroit, Clark 5 spd, 40" wide tracks, 10:00x20 tires, 16,000# capacity, 22,000# weight. You know the mud is getting deep when it's coming in the doors.

Trackrig
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strollin wrote:
There is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Chromebooks. My son works at a retail store that sells Chromebooks and tells me that almost every Chromebook they sell gets returned after a few days because the purchaser finds they can't install their Windows software even though that fact is repeatedly told to the person before they make the purchase.


I agree fully with you. Most people don't read or do their research work. I find Amazon a great place to do research on electronics. On this lap top there are 4,387 reviews and a 1,000 questions asked and answered. What I find funny is the people that don't read or pay attention and the same question gets ask 50 times - probably the same people that didn't pay attention when they were told they can't load Windows software on it.

Bill
Nodwell RN110 out moose hunting. 4-53 Detroit, Clark 5 spd, 40" wide tracks, 10:00x20 tires, 16,000# capacity, 22,000# weight. You know the mud is getting deep when it's coming in the doors.

Trackrig
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mobilefleet wrote:
after seeing what a terrible browser chrome is, there's no way I'd ever buy a Google anything. they should stick to search engines. "Oh snap".........if you get my drift on the constant error messages


I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to?

The Chrome book is made by Samsung. They probably paid Google something to use Chrome, but I didn't buy it directly myself. As far as using Chrome as a browser, I don't see any difference between using it on the Chrome book or using Google Search on my Windows lap top. I haven't seen an error message yet now that you mention it.

Or, were you pulling my leg and I missed something?

Bill
Nodwell RN110 out moose hunting. 4-53 Detroit, Clark 5 spd, 40" wide tracks, 10:00x20 tires, 16,000# capacity, 22,000# weight. You know the mud is getting deep when it's coming in the doors.

Trackrig
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cleo 43 wrote:
Did you try the 'Files' app ?


No, but I'll take a look at it before trying to reformat the WD HD.

Bill
Nodwell RN110 out moose hunting. 4-53 Detroit, Clark 5 spd, 40" wide tracks, 10:00x20 tires, 16,000# capacity, 22,000# weight. You know the mud is getting deep when it's coming in the doors.

Trackrig
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ed6713 wrote:
Were you able to transfer al your bookmarks/favorites from your laptop to the Chrome?

Suppose you e-mailed a Word doc. or Excel spreadsheet from your laptop to your Chrome. Can it open those files?

I use Firefox.


No, I didn't try since both of my other laptops were in the shop. One I couldn't open because of the failed hard drive and I forgot to think about it before I took the other one in.

Bill
Nodwell RN110 out moose hunting. 4-53 Detroit, Clark 5 spd, 40" wide tracks, 10:00x20 tires, 16,000# capacity, 22,000# weight. You know the mud is getting deep when it's coming in the doors.

bcsdguy
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My son is selling 14,000 Chromebooks to our local school system and for them it is a real deal. I think they have their place in certain instances and this is one of them.
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Merrykalia
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We purchased our 9 year old a Chromebook for Christmas. She wanted a laptop to play her games on, so this fit the case. $198 at Black Friday, so that is what she got. I use it, almost as much as she does since it is so lightweight and doesn't get as hot as my laptop does while sitting on my lap.
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strollin
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There is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Chromebooks. My son works at a retail store that sells Chromebooks and tells me that almost every Chromebook they sell gets returned after a few days because the purchaser finds they can't install their Windows software even though that fact is repeatedly told to the person before they make the purchase.
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ed6713
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A question, Bill.

Were you able to transfer al your bookmarks/favorites from your laptop to the Chrome?

Suppose you e-mailed a Word doc. or Excel spreadsheet from your laptop to your Chrome. Can it open those files?

I use Firefox.

Thanks

Ed
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mobilefleet
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after seeing what a terrible browser chrome is, there's no way I'd ever buy a Google anything. they should stick to search engines. "Oh snap".........if you get my drift on the constant error messages

cleo43
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I wanted to use my Western Digital Passport hard drives. My understanding is I can make them work, but since I'm not a technical person, I think it's going to be a pain.

Did you try the 'Files' app ?
It show the content of my Western Digital USB2 and USB3 Hard drives just fine. Both work with the USB3 slot, because the USB2 is used by my Logitech Mouse. I use the Developer Mode, maybe that makes the difference.
I have an Acer C720 with 32G SSD, which I split in half and dual boot with Ubuntu following this guide
Chrubuntu
I haven't explored much the App World of Chrome, but you can :
- stream video with Youtube, Netflix
- Free video, phone calls with Hangouts (I use the same headset of my iPad)
- Work with Doc, Docx (Google Drive)
- Work with Text file (with the Text App)
- Gmail

Then you can do more in Ubuntu mode, but I rarely have the need to.

SCR
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Make sure you update the system on your Chrome Book Chrome OS Security Holes Patched

demoon
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I have had my Acer Chromebook for about 4 months now and I love it. It is what it is, and in my case it does what I want. All of the pros and cons above are pretty much right on. I have not used the Google Drive storage and I do not intend to, simply because I don't need it. I have downloaded a few pictures and transferred them to a memory stick.
OP - scrolling can be done with two finger on the scroll pad, but I usually use my wireless mouse, and it then works like any computer.
Good, inexpensive choice, if it fits your needs.

Cuffs054
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Bill, thanks for info. I've been looking at them for months and just can't pull the trigger. Your post may help.