Arizona RV licensing

[y22man]

Hello All,

I hope all are well. I moved to Arizona in the last 8 months. I want to plate my Fuzion toy hauler. I was quoted $850+ for 1 year. I fell off my chair. The person on the phone stated that they go off new MSRP for the trailer. I said 1. It is 4 years old. 2. I have owned it since new.

I have no issues paying on the used price. It is the pay off original MSRP I have issue. If so, Arizona has a good racket going. RV prices fall like a rock.

Curious what others have encountered. This is one thing I did not figure on with this move.

Jay

[dedmiston]

ryoung wrote:

When you moved to another state vehicle license fees should have been considered along with income and sales taxes, home prices, real estate taxes, medical care and costs etc. Doesn’t AARP provide a state by state chart to members?

I don't think it's necessary to scold or admonish the OP for his post. Slack off.

ryoung

He's one of our more prolific trolls and has opinions on everything.

[ryoung]

When you moved to another state vehicle license fees should have been considered along with income and sales taxes, home prices, real estate taxes, medical care and costs etc. Doesn’t AARP provide a state by state chart to members?

I don't think it's necessary to scold or admonish the OP for his post. Slack off.

ryoung

[otrfun]

y22man wrote:
Thanks for all the discussion around the topic. I just found it odd that on a 4 year trailer that I have owned since new, they wanted to charge as if I bought the unit new.

I will rack this as one of my move stories and move along.

Jay

Not sure if you read my previous post. I believe you mentioned AZ wanted $850 to register your 4 year old toy hauler (based on these numbers I'm guess-estimating the original MSRP on your toy hauler was approx. $75k-$85k). If you had registered this same toy hauler in AZ 4 years ago when it was new, AZ would have likely charged you roughly $1700 in registrations fees. Registration fees in AZ depreciate approx. 16% a year.

[y22man]

Thanks for all the discussion around the topic. I just found it odd that on a 4 year trailer that I have owned since new, they wanted to charge as if I bought the unit new.

I will rack this as one of my move stories and move along.

Jay

[B_O__Plenty]

BarabooBob wrote:
Move to Wisconsin. I just paid $15 my TT plates for a year. My motorcycle is $23 for 2 years. My F150 is $106 per year. These prices are for that type of vehicle no matter how old or current or new value.
I read what you people are paying and I just about vaporlock.

And your property tax and State (many States have none) income tax is how much? No free rides wherever you are.
B.O.

[ItsyRV]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Buy your self a hand full of three day trip permits from your DOT.

Not one person smart enough to have ever done this on here???

Each vehicle/trailer ID number is limited to only 3 permits in a 12 month period. They are also not (technically) valid outside the State of AZ. You could also be cited if your Point A and Point B doesn't match your documentation. It's easy to get the Judge or JP to let you off or with a very low fine, but it's a hassle none the less.

[campermama]

Gotta love Texas....my 2018 truck brand new 1st yr registration fee = $98, just renewed for 2nd year = $78! My new 2020 trailer will be ~$100 this year and about $45 next year, this makes me a happy camper!

[mockturtle]

One of the few higher costs of living in AZ.

[Cummins12V98]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Buy your self a hand full of three day trip permits from your DOT.

Not one person smart enough to have ever done this on here???

In WA when tabs were big $$$ I did this and saved plenty of $$$.

Lady at DOT told me she had plenty of drinks bought for her when she heard people talking about spending hundreds of dollars on RV tabs.

[crcr]

bigorange wrote:
AZ vehicle and RV registration cost is ridiculous....a large part of that is a tax on the value of the vehicle/RV. Only good thing is it’s deductible on income tax, but I’d rather not pay it in the first place.

Many states have a vehicle registration fee and also levy a personal property tax on vehicles of every kind. Arizona rolls those two fees together into one annual fee.

Re Fed Income Taxes, they raised the Standard Deduction a couple of years ago, so very few taxpayers now ever have enough qualifying deductions to itemize instead of using the standard deduction.

[otrfun]

y22man wrote:
Hello All,

I hope all are well. I moved to Arizona in the last 8 months. I want to plate my Fuzion toy hauler. I was quoted $850+ for 1 year. I fell off my chair. The person on the phone stated that they go off new MSRP for the trailer. I said 1. It is 4 years old. 2. I have owned it since new.

I have no issues paying on the used price. It is the pay off original MSRP I have issue. If so, Arizona has a good racket going. RV prices fall like a rock.

Curious what others have encountered. This is one thing I did not figure on with this move.

Jay

If the AZ DMV quoted you $850 to register a 4 year old Fuzion toy hauler (fees drop approx. 16% a year), my guess your Fuzion toy hauler originally had an MSRP of roughly $85k. If you had registered it new in AZ, 4 years ago, the registration fees would have been approx. $1,700.

[ItsyRV]

I'm still trying to figure out why people think AZ registration should be cheap. AZ has a rather high government expense to taxpayer ratio. Proportionate to the size of the government, New Yorkers pay less taxes than Arizonans pay for the level of service received. And lets not forget the sneaky "Public Safety Fee" that popped up on AZ registrations (now being phased out due to public pressure).

[otrfun]

I've registered a number of new/used vehicles and RV's in AZ. They base their registration fees off the "base" MSRP, before options are added. The AZ DMV does not use the data from your window sticker or any invoices you may have from the dealership to determine the base MSRP---they use their own internal, manufacturer supplied database.

Our '16 Ram Cummins had an MSRP of $54K (with $15k in options), but we only paid registration fees on the base MSRP of $39k (fees were ~$750 in 2016; currently ~$375). FWIW, someone who purchases the same year, make and model truck we purchased with the Hemi engine option (instead of the Cummins option) with an MSRP of approx. $44k, will pay the same registration fees as we did for our $54k truck. Reason being, both trucks have the same "base" MSRP (before options are added).

[Old_Days]

That does seem high for a 4 year old trailer, but Colorado licensing prices are pretty bad also. That is why the $1200 check I get from the government just goes back to some other form of government.