RJL,
It's been mentioned at least a time or two in this thread of yours. Your OWNERS MANUAL IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jeep knows this and, has sent out SOME corrections to SOME owners over the years. They simply cannot keep up with all the private sales of Jeep Wranglers to be able to send out corrections to all who are involved. There is NO NEED FOR YOU TO PUT THAT KEY IN THE ACCESSORY POSITION, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeep stopped the steering lock half way through the 2008 year of production. Since then, there are NO JEEP WRANGLERS WITH STEERING LOCKS!!!!! And since that's the case, you have no reason to put that ignition key in any other position other than OFF!!! Jeep has made a few model changes over the years and, there are a couple of towing procedures that effect different ones. The "TJ" series DID have a steering lock and, the key was needed to be put ONE CLICK past off. But, that did not energize any of the electrical system.
In 2007, Jeep re-engineered the Wrangler and created the "JK" series. For 2007 and half way through 2008, the steering lock was continued. But, in mid year production run, Jeep eliminated the steering lock and therefore, that eliminated the need for the key to be in the accessory position for towing. Again, Jeep screwed up in MANY of their owners manuals and did, at some time, try to get the correct information out but, it did not reach all who were involved.
If you want to keep your charge wire, that's up to you. You don't need it though since you don't need to keep that key in the accessory position. Good luck.
Scott
It's been mentioned at least a time or two in this thread of yours. Your OWNERS MANUAL IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jeep knows this and, has sent out SOME corrections to SOME owners over the years. They simply cannot keep up with all the private sales of Jeep Wranglers to be able to send out corrections to all who are involved. There is NO NEED FOR YOU TO PUT THAT KEY IN THE ACCESSORY POSITION, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeep stopped the steering lock half way through the 2008 year of production. Since then, there are NO JEEP WRANGLERS WITH STEERING LOCKS!!!!! And since that's the case, you have no reason to put that ignition key in any other position other than OFF!!! Jeep has made a few model changes over the years and, there are a couple of towing procedures that effect different ones. The "TJ" series DID have a steering lock and, the key was needed to be put ONE CLICK past off. But, that did not energize any of the electrical system.
In 2007, Jeep re-engineered the Wrangler and created the "JK" series. For 2007 and half way through 2008, the steering lock was continued. But, in mid year production run, Jeep eliminated the steering lock and therefore, that eliminated the need for the key to be in the accessory position for towing. Again, Jeep screwed up in MANY of their owners manuals and did, at some time, try to get the correct information out but, it did not reach all who were involved.
If you want to keep your charge wire, that's up to you. You don't need it though since you don't need to keep that key in the accessory position. Good luck.
Scott
RJL wrote:
Robert. Sorry for the confusion. Are you saying at the connector on the front of the Jeep I should be getting power readings with a multimeter? I picked one up today at Walmart, first time ever using one. I messed around with it a bit to get a feel for it. Tested the Jeep battery, with the Jeep off and got readings of 12.6, running 13.8 or so. I then tested the receptacle on the front of the Jeep, with it off and then running. Nothing. I also don't see a fuse anywhere in the engine compartment that's been added on. I haven't checked the MH yet, its in a storage facility a few miles away. Probably Sunday as tomorrow we're gonna get rain from a tropical storm moving up through the Gulf.
Thanks,
Bob
Yes, you should have voltage at the connector on the front of the Jeep. If not, likely a bad fuse between the connector and the battery.
That said, I didn't have a charge wire on mine. I had to add one to the center conductor (Pin 2). Very easy to do. I did take a little time to use split loom, and route the wire with existing cables. All looks stock.
Slide the boot off the back of the connector on the Jeep, this is what it looks like:
Look at the pins on the back of that connector. Look at the CENTER pin, it sticks out a little further than the rest:
If there's no wire, that's the problem. You need to add a wire from here, to the Jeep battery. Be sure to put a fuse near the battery.
Here's a video showing both sides of the connector. This is also where I captured the images above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYpS1WN73yo
2manytoyz wrote:
If so, then the problem isn't on the motorhome end.
If you're using a Roadmaster 6 pin connector, here's how it is wired:
At the connector on the Jeep, check between Pins 2 and 5. You should read about 12.6 Volts. If not, there should be a fuse inside the engine compartment near the battery going to the Roadmaster connector.
If both of these are fine, check the wiring on the cable that connects the motorhome to the Jeep.
FWIW, I just recently added the charging wiring to our Jeep. The Roadmaster EvenBrake 9400 would drain the Jeep's battery after a few hours. Now after driving 10+ hours, no issues at all. I put the fuse right at the battery, and identified it with a label.
Good luck!
Robert. Sorry for the confusion. Are you saying at the connector on the front of the Jeep I should be getting power readings with a multimeter? I picked one up today at Walmart, first time ever using one. I messed around with it a bit to get a feel for it. Tested the Jeep battery, with the Jeep off and got readings of 12.6, running 13.8 or so. I then tested the receptacle on the front of the Jeep, with it off and then running. Nothing. I also don't see a fuse anywhere in the engine compartment that's been added on. I haven't checked the MH yet, its in a storage facility a few miles away. Probably Sunday as tomorrow we're gonna get rain from a tropical storm moving up through the Gulf.
Thanks,
Bob
Definitely not being charged by the motorhome.
For troubleshooting, this is a quick and dirty way to check the wiring.
Start the motorhome. With the cable disconnected, check the voltage between Pins 1 and 4 as shown in the diagram below. Should read ~13.5 volts. If not, there should be a fuse inside the motorhome engine compartment fuse block identified as "towing" or similar.
If so, then the problem isn't on the motorhome end.
If you're using a Roadmaster 6 pin connector, here's how it is wired:
At the connector on the Jeep, check between Pins 2 and 5. You should read about 12.6 Volts. If not, there should be a fuse inside the engine compartment near the battery going to the Roadmaster connector.
If both of these are fine, check the wiring on the cable that connects the motorhome to the Jeep.
FWIW, I just recently added the charging wiring to our Jeep. The Roadmaster EvenBrake 9400 would drain the Jeep's battery after a few hours. Now after driving 10+ hours, no issues at all. I put the fuse right at the battery, and identified it with a label.
Good luck!
For troubleshooting, this is a quick and dirty way to check the wiring.
Start the motorhome. With the cable disconnected, check the voltage between Pins 1 and 4 as shown in the diagram below. Should read ~13.5 volts. If not, there should be a fuse inside the motorhome engine compartment fuse block identified as "towing" or similar.
If so, then the problem isn't on the motorhome end.
If you're using a Roadmaster 6 pin connector, here's how it is wired:
At the connector on the Jeep, check between Pins 2 and 5. You should read about 12.6 Volts. If not, there should be a fuse inside the engine compartment near the battery going to the Roadmaster connector.
If both of these are fine, check the wiring on the cable that connects the motorhome to the Jeep.
FWIW, I just recently added the charging wiring to our Jeep. The Roadmaster EvenBrake 9400 would drain the Jeep's battery after a few hours. Now after driving 10+ hours, no issues at all. I put the fuse right at the battery, and identified it with a label.
Good luck!
