new to the forum!

[harley001]

looking at a fuzion 302 35 ft dry wt is 11,165 would my 2007 dodge ram 2500 pull this ok it is a toy hauler.

thanks for the help mike

[NC_Hauler]

Bedlam wrote:
Most likely the axle has a rating over 9000 lbs, but the suspension and wheels will be your limiting factor. If you are set on getting this toy hauler look into the 19.5" wheels which will give you over 8000 lbs of wheel capacity on the rear. The truck will most likely squat under that weigh and SuperSprings or other suspension aids would be required to level you out.

Watch your GCWR - You will easily add 3000 lbs to the toy hauler once personal items, toys and water are added. I was about 4000 lbs heavier than dry when I had mine filled with toys and water for a long trip...

He stated his RAWR was 6,000#...I wouldn't want to put tires on that exceed the rating of the axle and make the axle the "weak link" in the towing formula.

Agree that he needs to use the 5er's GVW and figure pin weight from there as well as possible loaded weight added to weight of the truck...

[harley001]

thanks ! for the input i will keep that in mind

[NC_Hauler]

harley001 wrote:
Ok guy's looked my truck up dodge ram 2500 quad cab 5.9l 4:10 rear end 2007

gvwr- 9,000 payload-2635 cwt-6365 gawr front-4630 rear-6000 gcwr-20,000


fifth wheel 2009 fuzion302 34' dry 11,165 what do you think!


mike

Again, you need to go more with the GVW of the 5er....dry weight isn't realistic....no one tows a 5er "dry" or "empty"...Take 20% of the 5er's GVW and that'll give you a "ballpark" of how much pin weight you'll be putting in the bed of your truck.

[Bedlam]

Most likely the axle has a rating over 9000 lbs, but the suspension and wheels will be your limiting factor. If you are set on getting this toy hauler look into the 19.5" wheels which will give you over 8000 lbs of wheel capacity on the rear. The truck will most likely squat under that weigh and SuperSprings or other suspension aids would be required to level you out.

Watch your GCWR - You will easily add 3000 lbs to the toy hauler once personal items, toys and water are added. I was about 4000 lbs heavier than dry when I had mine filled with toys and water for a long trip...

[harley001]

Ok guy's looked my truck up dodge ram 2500 quad cab 5.9l 4:10 rear end 2007

gvwr- 9,000 payload-2635 cwt-6365 gawr front-4630 rear-6000 gcwr-20,000


fifth wheel 2009 fuzion302 34' dry 11,165 what do you think!


mike

[harley001]

thanks guy's for the help will post what i find.

mike

[Old-Biscuit]

Here is a Dodge Towing Guide..........LINK

Pick your year truck
Pick model/series
Pick body style/drivetrain
Pick bed length
Pick engine/tranny

Results will give you all info needed

Compare to what your truck actually weighs camp ready....then you can match a trailer to it
Under 13K would be my guess if you have the payload available

[NC_Hauler]

harley001 wrote:
thinks! guy's for the help i will look into it running 10 ply tires and air bags my truck is a 2007 ram 2500d 5.9l.

thanks again!! great help here. mike

Harley001, welcome to the forum. As stated, you'll need to use the 5er's GVW to get a real world idea of what you're going to be towing. As also stated, take approx. 20% of the 5er GVW and that'll give you an idea of how much weight you'll be putting in the bed of your truck, (pin weight). If 5er does have a GVW of 15,000# , you could be dropping up to 3,000# pin weight into the bed of your truck.

I don't know what GVWR is on your truck, but odds are you'll go over that..at that point, you'll want to know what your rear axle rating is.

Air bags will not add any more cargo carrying capacity for you, only level the load, and just make sure that you don't exceed your trucks rear axle rating by adding a higher weight range tire, only to exceed the rear axle rating.

If I were you, I'd want to know the trucks weight, ready to go camping, fuel, family pets, whatever, add 200# for a 5er hitch...get it weighed...add 2500-3000# for pin weight (if 5er has GVW of 15,000#), you probably be able to tow it, but odds are you might be pushing limits of trucks RAWR, but I don't know what that is.

Good luck in your matching up truck to 5er and Happy Camping to you:)

[harley001]

thinks! guy's for the help i will look into it running 10 ply tires and air bags my truck is a 2007 ram 2500d 5.9l.

thanks again!! great help here. mike

[MFL]

Mike, I think the TH, when loaded, may approach the truck tow rating.

However, the bigger problem may be the pin weight of the trailer, plus the weight of the hitch, passengers, etc. This may be around 3,000#s +. You may have to add extra spring, air-bags, tire capacity etc.

Just a few things to consider, hope it works for you,
Jerry

[Old-Biscuit]

harley001

Don't worry so much about where you post.........mods will move IF necessary.
Your question is about your tow vehicle so it's good right here.

You state the dry weight of trailer 11,165#.......doesn't mean much as no body tows dry.

Your 2005 CTD 2500 may be rated to tow 14,300# but in the real world you will run out of payload before reaching that magical tow number.

To get a better idea of what your truck is capable of 'carrying' load your truck up ready to camp (you, passengers, any stuff in cab, any stuff in bed, full fuel tank and add 250# for hitch--if you don't have one in truck) then go get it weighed.
Weigh ticket will give you Front axle weight, Rear axle weight and Trucks Total weight.
Then subtract total weight from your trucks GVWR (door sticker #)
That number is what you have left in actual payload (what you can carry)

Then find out the GVWR of that trailer (probably close to 15K)
Take 20% of that GVWR to get an idea what 'wet' pin weight would be (15K GVWR=3000# pin weight or higher)
With that pin weight number do you have enough payload left to carry that weight and not go over your trucks GVWR, RAWR or Rear Tire MAX Load Rating?????

Think you will find that TH is too heavy for your 2500

You should probably look for a trailer with 12K GVWR....especially if your truck GVWR is only 8800#

Better to match a trailer within your trucks actual numbers vs having a trailer that is too heavy.
So go get your truck weighed..then you have real numbers to use.

[harley001]

thanks i will get it on the right forum my truck is a dodge ram 2500 diesel and would be a 2009 furzion 302 f//w not sure about the gvrw i think around 8800# the truck is rated to tow 14,300

mike

[BarneyS]

According to the question he asked, this is the correct forum for it. If he doesn't get enough good replies then I will move it to the Toy Hauler forum but I suspect he will get his question answered completey here. This is the type of question this forum was designed to cover.

Mike, Welcome to the forums! I hope you get all your questions answered completely and come back and post often.:)
Barney

[MFL]

Welcome to the forum Mike!

You aren't giving much info on the truck or trailer. It would likely take a diesel powered Ram, to pull that size trailer. Depending on hitch weight, gvwr of the trailer etc., the 3/4 ton may not be able to carry the weight.

Jerry

[donn0128]

Welcome to the forum.
First rule, be sure what forum you are posting in. There are many different forums here and many newbies tend to start posting before checking out the different forums.
As with your post, it would probably be better read by posting over on the Toy hauler forums. I will ask the moderator to move it for you.
What is the TH's GVWR and is this a pull behind or a fifth wheel.
It will make a difference. Regardless, dry weight numbers are totally meaningless. No one will ever tow a "dry" trailer. Once it is loaded with stuff it will be far closer to the trailers GVWR. So you really need to base everything from that.