โMay-18-2013 08:25 AM
โJun-02-2013 08:09 PM
John & Angela wrote:
No this is not true. A properly installed inverter has no problem running microwaves wether it is on a GFI. Circuit or not. Having said that, if your inverter produces a modified sine wave instead of a sine wave there are some devices that may not like it. For example, the microwave in our little C class did not like a modified sine wave. The one in our A class didn't care. We now have only sine wave inverters but the original inverter in the A was a modified sine wave. Served us well for nine years before it smoked. 458 Xantrex.
โJun-02-2013 07:46 PM
jcpainter wrote:
Our generator is a Cummins/Onan 5400. The inverter/charger will be the 2000W Magnum MS2012. The rig has two new 6-Volt Trojan batteries, wired in series.
For those of you that actually have a working inverter/charger/generator system . . . . is it true that the neither the microwave nor the circuit with the GFI on it can be operated on the inverter?
When this was installed, the bathroom outlet and half the kitchen outlets were not put on the inverter. The tech said that because they were on a circuit controlled by a GFI, that they could not be put onto the inverter.
Is this true?
Thanks for prompt responses . . . . appointment is early in the A.M.
Jean Painter
โJun-02-2013 06:30 PM
jcpainter wrote:
Our generator is a Cummins/Onan 5400. The inverter/charger will be the 2000W Magnum MS2012. The rig has two new 6-Volt Trojan batteries, wired in series.
For those of you that actually have a working inverter/charger/generator system . . . . is it true that the neither the microwave nor the circuit with the GFI on it can be operated on the inverter?
When this was installed, the bathroom outlet and half the kitchen outlets were not put on the inverter. The tech said that because they were on a circuit controlled by a GFI, that they could not be put onto the inverter.
Is this true?
โJun-02-2013 06:15 PM
Bob & Betsy - USN Aviation Ret'd '78 & LEO Ret'd '03 & "Oath Keeper Forever"
โJun-02-2013 06:02 PM
โJun-02-2013 05:47 PM
โJun-02-2013 09:41 AM
jcpainter wrote:Wow...what nonsense.
They said that their inverters needed perfect input from the generator in order for them to produce proper Pure Sine Wave output.
โJun-02-2013 08:30 AM
majorsmackdown wrote:
JCPainter... this is the one I have that won't go into charge mode with the onan generator. CW still has it listed...
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/nature-power-sine-wave-inverterchargers-2000-watt-with-55-amp-battery-charger/67197
โJun-02-2013 07:48 AM
The Texan wrote:majorsmackdown wrote:And you have the ....to dress down folks that know more about the operation of an inverter than you just demonstrated. Before telling us we should NOT try and assist the OP. maybe you should learn a little about the operation of 99% of the inverters. It is now apparent from your input that the one CW is selling is some sort of unknown and NOT like the vast majority of the inverters in the RV field.
Cheap or weird ? It wasn't cheap, and weird maybe - it's what camping world is selling. I've found in the past that they sell a lot of quality stuff and I assume someone at camping world put the equipment they sell through some sort of quality testing before they expose the public to it...
My point exactly, why would someone ask for specific information or help with specific hardware when there is so much general knowledge out there ? It's because sometimes the specifics aren't the same as the general.
Usually the generators aren't powering the inverters are they ? It's the batteries that power the inverters - and the generator would have to power the battery charger portion and work with the built in transfer switch. Many people on this thread said it should be fine and the installation is the problem - well... I'm here to say that with first hand knowledge of the specific components that a person can expect to have trouble.
Having goofed with it a little bit, I've tried to clarify what the trouble is. I've emailed nature power and will update if I get a reply.
โJun-02-2013 04:06 AM
jcpainter wrote:
They said that their inverters needed perfect input from the generator in order for them to produce proper Pure Sine Wave output.
โJun-02-2013 03:17 AM
โJun-01-2013 06:05 PM
โJun-01-2013 03:40 PM
jcpainter wrote:You will be getting the BEST inverter/charger on the market and a very wise move by CW to dump one that won't play with 90% of the generators installed in RVs.majorsmackdown wrote:
Cheap or weird ? It wasn't cheap, and weird maybe - it's what camping world is selling. I've found in the past that they sell a lot of quality stuff and I assume someone at camping world put the equipment they sell through some sort of quality testing before they expose the public to it...
My point exactly, why would someone ask for specific information or help with specific hardware when there is so much general knowledge out there ? It's because sometimes the specifics aren't the same as the general.
Usually the generators aren't powering the inverters are they ? It's the batteries that power the inverters - and the generator would have to power the battery charger portion and work with the built in transfer switch. Many people on this thread said it should be fine and the installation is the problem - well... I'm here to say that with first hand knowledge of the specific components that a person can expect to have trouble. I'll admit, I'm new to the forum and didn't dive into the troubleshooting side of things until after I discovered there was a problem. So now I'd look into it - what inverter chargers with true sinewave do work well with the onan generators ?
Having goofed with it a little bit, I've tried to clarify what the trouble is. I've emailed nature power and will update if I get a reply.
I am the OP and I thought I'd give an update. Camping World has concurred that the Nature Power inverters are not compatible with the Onan Generators. Nature Power agrees. I don't understand the "why's" or the "how comes" but they just don't play well together.
We have an appointment Monday morning for Camping World to replace the Nature Power with a Magnum MS 2012 inverter (their recommendation). We were told that Camping World will no longer sell the Nature Power inverters.
I pray this story has a happy ending!
Bob & Betsy - USN Aviation Ret'd '78 & LEO Ret'd '03 & "Oath Keeper Forever"
โJun-01-2013 03:37 PM
majorsmackdown wrote:
Cheap or weird ? It wasn't cheap, and weird maybe - it's what camping world is selling. I've found in the past that they sell a lot of quality stuff and I assume someone at camping world put the equipment they sell through some sort of quality testing before they expose the public to it...
My point exactly, why would someone ask for specific information or help with specific hardware when there is so much general knowledge out there ? It's because sometimes the specifics aren't the same as the general.
Usually the generators aren't powering the inverters are they ? It's the batteries that power the inverters - and the generator would have to power the battery charger portion and work with the built in transfer switch. Many people on this thread said it should be fine and the installation is the problem - well... I'm here to say that with first hand knowledge of the specific components that a person can expect to have trouble. I'll admit, I'm new to the forum and didn't dive into the troubleshooting side of things until after I discovered there was a problem. So now I'd look into it - what inverter chargers with true sinewave do work well with the onan generators ?
Having goofed with it a little bit, I've tried to clarify what the trouble is. I've emailed nature power and will update if I get a reply.
โJun-01-2013 03:21 PM
majorsmackdown wrote:And you have the ....to dress down folks that know more about the operation of an inverter than you just demonstrated. Before telling us we should NOT try and assist the OP. maybe you should learn a little about the operation of 99% of the inverters. It is now apparent from your input that the one CW is selling is some sort of unknown and NOT like the vast majority of the inverters in the RV field.
Cheap or weird ? It wasn't cheap, and weird maybe - it's what camping world is selling. I've found in the past that they sell a lot of quality stuff and I assume someone at camping world put the equipment they sell through some sort of quality testing before they expose the public to it...
My point exactly, why would someone ask for specific information or help with specific hardware when there is so much general knowledge out there ? It's because sometimes the specifics aren't the same as the general.
Usually the generators aren't powering the inverters are they ? It's the batteries that power the inverters - and the generator would have to power the battery charger portion and work with the built in transfer switch. Many people on this thread said it should be fine and the installation is the problem - well... I'm here to say that with first hand knowledge of the specific components that a person can expect to have trouble.
Having goofed with it a little bit, I've tried to clarify what the trouble is. I've emailed nature power and will update if I get a reply.
Bob & Betsy - USN Aviation Ret'd '78 & LEO Ret'd '03 & "Oath Keeper Forever"