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Can two 6V and one 12V be charged by rv system?

nickdarr
Explorer
Explorer
I searched and could not find answer that did not involve using large solar setups. Since obtaining new neck hardware, I have a CPAP. We have used our two 6v batteries and camped, but not since my new CPAP friend travels with us. We are getting a separate 12 volt for the CPAP. Can I place this inline (parallel) with the two 6v and charge through the TT wiring system? Or, am I better served to run a separate charger for that battery? We have a small solar panel and hope to add more as cash allows. We run the generator to fully charge each day.
Darren, Peggy, two kids, and the Poodle pair
2006 Ford F-350 Crew Cab PSD
2016 Outdoors Creekside 27DBHS
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2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
If you wish more in-depth study/opinion of 12v and 6v together, read on:

Add 12v to 2 6v 2006
12 and 2 6v 2010
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

time2roll
Nomad
Nomad
While in use or charging they can be together or separated as you like.
I would only separate during storage with no float charge.

ktmrfs
Explorer
Explorer
ktmrfs wrote:
2oldman wrote:
A 12 in parallel with 2 6s should work.


not really. for charging you will likely be ok, but not for discharge. the issue is that unless the 12V is the same AH as the 6V the 12V will discharge faster than the 6V bank and the 6V bank will end up charging the 12V and you'll end up with well under the assumed AH

better thing would be to use a battery selector switch to select one or the other.

now I expect Mex to chime in and give more details and/or shoot my analysis down.

And unless the CPAPs are also running with the humidifier on, a pair of GC batteries will go many weeks even running two CPAP's. Data on three different CPAP machines, a resmed, a resperonics and one other from another member indicates an average current draw of an amp or less.

My resmed will run 4 1/2 nights off a 250WH (that's around 20AH) lithium battery pack.

and residual draw in my trailer over night from propane detectorm fridge electronics etc. is about equal to the CPAP.

Now turn on the tube heater and heated humidity and it will run the draw up to about 3A average or 25AH, even that will go many nights on a pair of GC batteries.
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ktmrfs
Explorer
Explorer
2oldman wrote:
A 12 in parallel with 2 6s should work.


not really. the issue is that unless the 12V is the same AH as the 6V the 12V will discharge faster than the 6V bank and the 6V bank will end up charging the 12V and you'll end up with well under the assumed AH

better thing would be to use a battery selector switch to select one or the other.

now I expect Mex to chime in and give more details and/or shoot my analysis down.

And unless the CPAPs are also running with the humidifier on, a pair of GC batteries will go many weeks even running two CPAP's. Data on three different CPAP machines, a resmed, a resperonics and one other from another member indicates an average current draw of an amp or less.

My resmed will run 4 1/2 nights off a 250WH (that's around 20AH) lithium battery pack.

and residual draw in my trailer over night from propane detectorm fridge electronics etc. is about equal to the CPAP.

Now turn on the tube heater and heated humidity and it will run the draw up to about 3A average or 25AH, even that will go many nights on a pair of GC batteries.
2011 Keystone Outback 295RE
2004 14' bikehauler with full living quarters
2015.5 Denali 4x4 CC/SB Duramax/Allison
2004.5 Silverado 4x4 CC/SB Duramax/Allison passed on to our Son!

azrving
Explorer
Explorer
Charge both at the same time. If you are going with more or different panels look at places like solar blvd. I noticed a sale right now for 180 watt panel for $150. What type of solar controller do you have? It's best to try and size your system to what you ultimately need rather than replace components and wire as it grows.

MrWizard
Moderator
Moderator
yes
The two 6v is just one 12v in (2) pieces
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
That panel isn't going to do much. 2 amps, maybe, tops.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

RJsfishin
Explorer
Explorer
Its like 2old said !

What makes you think it would ruin anything. Whatever batts you use, 6 or 12v, in the end your charging system sees it as one big 12v battery. Just make sure your arrangement stays 12 volt
Rich

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nickdarr
Explorer
Explorer
Small, 36 watt, trickle charge panel with 20amp control. Does trickle, top off. Question is, can I parallel the 12 to two 6 and not damage the six or the onboard shore converter/charge controller?

Thanks 2oldman.
That is what I hoped.
Darren, Peggy, two kids, and the Poodle pair
2006 Ford F-350 Crew Cab PSD
2016 Outdoors Creekside 27DBHS

2oldman
Explorer II
Explorer II
A 12 in parallel with 2 6s should work.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

Lwiddis
Explorer II
Explorer II
How small a solar panel? Standard is one solar watt per battery AH. Then you adjust for location, type of controller, expected daily use etc. Idaho is a state where more solar watts may be needed in the fall and winter months.
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