Dish rec’r No Satellites found using new 2000w inverter

[SFVdave]

My Dish vip211z receiver worked fine off my old modified sine wave 400w inverter. Today at campsite, I tried to set it up using my new 2000w pure sine wave Renogy inverter. It keeps displaying after switch search “No satellites found” but I hear the rooftop auto dish searching. I switched over from an inverter only plug to shoreline generator and tried it and it works fine. What the heck my little 400w inverter allows my receiver to find the satellites and the expensive 2000w pure sine wave inverter doesn’t?? I guess I will call Renogy or Dish? Any ideas?

[SFVdave]

dougrainer wrote:
Good you fixed the problem. BUT, you stated it worked fine on Shore Power and not with the new Inverter. Replacing that Coax would not have fixed the problem. What Gives? The Inverter only supplies power to the Sat Receiver and has nothing to do with the Coax cables. IF the coax has indeed fixed the problem, then the 13 to 18 volt pulsed signal test I want you to do would point up a bad coax at the Sat Dish itself. My test requires you to test the output at the reciever. IF that was good, then you disconnect the Coax AT the Sat dome/dish and test for that 13 to 18 volt pulsed signal. IF you do not get that then your coax is indeed compromised. Doug

It makes no sense. The DW doesn't want me going up on the roof, for now. So I can't do that check. But to further add to the unexplained, my friend who lives 15 miles due east of the beach campsite got a new satellite dish and Wally. He has been able to get quick setup of the satellites when at home. But when he comes out to the beach he has the same issue, "No Satellites Found". He joined us last week and we both had the same issue. I can't find any logical explanation for this. He was using shorepower at home and the generator at the beach > Used shoreline power at home and generator and inverter at the beach. But when I did the test at home, I used inverter and generator. Makes no sense. Only option left is to test voltage as you advised.

[enblethen]

More apt to be a bad connector then a bad cable.

[Edd505]

SFVdave wrote:
I believe I found the cause of the no satellites found. When we got home last night, I moved the dish receiver inside the house and set it up with no issues. This morning, I moved it back to the MH and tried it and came up with no satellites found again. I ran coax directly from the receiver to the rooftop sat dish and it worked and quickly. I then isolated the cable by running the coax from the rooftop connector to the sat dish and it woked. So I have replaced the rooftop coax from the rooftop connector going to the sat dish and it works again. So it was the rooftop cable causing the sat dish not to find the satellites and not the inverter or power supply.

Get yours straightener out you can do mine. I have to run cable in the window or no sat.

[dougrainer]

Good you fixed the problem. BUT, you stated it worked fine on Shore Power and not with the new Inverter. Replacing that Coax would not have fixed the problem. What Gives? The Inverter only supplies power to the Sat Receiver and has nothing to do with the Coax cables. IF the coax has indeed fixed the problem, then the 13 to 18 volt pulsed signal test I want you to do would point up a bad coax at the Sat Dish itself. My test requires you to test the output at the reciever. IF that was good, then you disconnect the Coax AT the Sat dome/dish and test for that 13 to 18 volt pulsed signal. IF you do not get that then your coax is indeed compromised. Doug

[enblethen]

Thanks for the update!

[SFVdave]

I believe I found the cause of the no satellites found. When we got home last night, I moved the dish receiver inside the house and set it up with no issues. This morning, I moved it back to the MH and tried it and came up with no satellites found again. I ran coax directly from the receiver to the rooftop sat dish and it worked and quickly. I then isolated the cable by running the coax from the rooftop connector to the sat dish and it woked. So I have replaced the rooftop coax from the rooftop connector going to the sat dish and it works again. So it was the rooftop cable causing the sat dish not to find the satellites and not the inverter or power supply.

[enblethen]

M ight call Winegard today for advise as don't believe they are there over the weekend. They may give some insight.

[SFVdave]

enblethen wrote:
That is where I was suggesting problem earlier and got shot down. I looked at Winegard manual for your antenna. It indicates your dish uses state and not zip code. I also see where your dish needs software updates done manually.
I would remove dome and check for connections for tightness. Verify power connections in dish.

Thanks, that's what I'm going to do this weekend and run a direct line from the receiver to the Winegard Pathway X1. But being back home and not at the campsite may not give the same results. The campground where this problem occurred is at Rincon Parkway in Ventura California where you camp alongside the beach with full and open sky. No way the rooftop sat can be blocked.

[enblethen]

That is where I was suggesting problem earlier and got shot down. I looked at Winegard manual for your antenna. It indicates your dish uses state and not zip code. I also see where your dish needs software updates done manually.
I would remove dome and check for connections for tightness. Verify power connections in dish.

[SFVdave]

Hooked up receiver at home and it took ony a few minutes to reset and get all the channels. I wonder if there is something wrong with the Winegard Pathway X1?

[SFVdave]

Last night. no satellites found again and no location worked again. I gave up and called Dish and they said I did everything they could think of. They suggested I try using coax directly from receiver to rooftop dish and see if tha works. then it would be in the internal wiring of the MH.
I'm home now and in a few minutes will bring in the receiver and try it here.

[dougrainer]

enblethen wrote:
That is true, however some have a location set in the dish. During setup, you punch in a zip code that remains.

Zip Code has nothing to do with RV Sat finding. Trust me. I have worked on and installed Sat systems for over 25 years.

[enblethen]

That is true, however some have a location set in the dish. During setup, you punch in a zip code that remains.

[dougrainer]

enblethen wrote:
It could have just not stored your last input as to your location.

According to the install instructions, it does a NEW sat search each time you power it up. Doug